Mayweather Sr just came out and said Adrien's only been fighting stiffs. Several people, myself included, believe Broner has been carefully guided to 3 world titles in 3 weight classes by taking the path of least resistance. Picking on the undersized, overachieving WW Malignaggi for his WW splash didn't prove he is among the best. It only raised several more doubts by how much he struggled. Golden Boy is looking to chalk up another small WW who is a bit limited & overrated, but atleast packs a real punch. Some will say this fight will legitimize Broner. Still even a victory here will be against a guy who was floored several times by Ortiz, badly hurt by Josesito Lopez, & almost stopped in the first round by Amir Khan. Broner will need a better conquest to really earn his stripes. Who does Broner have to fight to earn respect? I for one say Lucas Matthysse, Kieth Thurman, & even Robert Guerrero after the little confrontation they had.
Maidana is trash fighter?
lol. DKSAB
Broner dreams about KO'ing Karass, Lopez and Ortiz while checking under his bed at night for Matthysse
Retards think Broner can do what Alexander did.."herpa derp easily outbox Maidana"
1. Broner doesn't have Alexander defence
2. Broner hasn't got a proven Alexander chin
3. Broner definitely hasn't got Alexander holding or foot movements skills
Can just imagine Broner standing there for that split second too long then taking a Maidana right hand, the red mist comes down and broner's eyes glaze over as he steps back and realizes he needs to fight the best fight of his life every second every round and that dumb fake smile and head shaking is never seen again.
Just sign the fight.
Broner beats Maidana.He is much better than people think he is. People hate on Broner because he is a social retard but he can fight. I would like to see him keep moving up through loaded WW Division.He will get tested at 147.I give him credit for moving up and taking on good fighters.Some guys don't have the balls to move up to test themselves (Rigo...looking at you)
Damn, it's a great time to be a boxing fan !!!!!!!!
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But what you are doing isn't right. You are basing Broner on what you want. Instea, he should be based on what he did. If another LW went up to 147 it would be an accomplishment. It shoul be considered same for Broner.
There are always more deserving people when a champion goes up to another weight and gets a fight. But that doesn't take away from this IMO.
I agree with you moving to welter is a step in the right direction. Even if it was a title grab against the perceived weak link WBA champion. The perception against Broner that is hurting his credibility is the fact that he has hung on to the lightweight title. Some feel he hopped up to WW for the Malignaggi lay up only to scramble back down to LW after accomplishing the 3 division champ accolade. The good thing is he will get rid of this perception with the Maidana fight thats on tap.
i agree with al for the most part.
The quote I like best is Al saying we will find out for sure how good Broner is if he fights Matthysse. Thats a fight that will undoubtedly answer the question.
Lucas Matthysse, Kieth Thurman, & even Robert Guerrero any of these would be a good start but one win won't legitimize him in my eyes I would like to see him fight Garcia or even Kahn any 2 wins out of those 5 would do it for me maybe even Judah
if ANYONE else has the wins & accomplishments of AB they'd be considered legit. But AB is held to a different standard.
Whenever he pasts their tests (Ponce, Demarco, Paulie) they move the goalposts and name a new fighter he needs to beat to be legit.
He actually has three losses:
Fernando Quintero
Daniel Ponce De Leon
Paulie Malignaggi
It would have been better to lose rather than rob those fights but we know how the boxing buisness works. ;)
if ANYONE else has the wins & accomplishments of AB they'd be considered legit. But AB is held to a different standard.
Whenever he pasts their tests (Ponce, Demarco, Paulie) they move the goalposts and name a new fighter he needs to beat to be legit.
LOL bro when were they ever considered tests? You could actually make the argument that he lost to Ponce.
DeMarco was always a decent fighter but everyone knew Broner would win, the question was how and when, not if. And Paulie LOOOOOOL no one in their right mind gave Paulie a chance, some expected a KO instead we got Paulie taking the fight to AB and exposing him as slow and powerless at 147. How were any of these fight tests???
A test is Pacquiao being fed to Ledwabo, a test is Hopkins being pitted in as a patsy for Tito, a test is Fury stepping up to fight the best heavyweight not named Klitschko, a test is Froch dismantling AA and destroying Bute, a test is ....oh God you get the idea, if you still believe what you said after this then there is NO hope :bukkake:
if ANYONE else has the wins & accomplishments of AB they'd be considered legit. But AB is held to a different standard.
Whenever he pasts their tests (Ponce, Demarco, Paulie) they move the goalposts and name a new fighter he needs to beat to be legit.
True, but the ponce win is highly debatable, and the pauli win was a clear win but broner didnt look good in it at all...
The demarco fight was a great performance for broner,,, he needs another 1 or 2 of those performances and i think people will get off his back, except for the haters..
I think broner straddles the fence of being elite and being a good fighter,,,
I think he is legit right now,, only question is,,, is he p4p elite like jmm and floyd or his he just a good fighter with ups and downs like alexander, dawson, zab etc......
In no-way is broner a bum,,,,, He just straddles the fence between elite and very good
A dominant performance over maidana will help clear things especially if he ko's maidana,,,,
Alexander already has beaten maidana, so has khan, so a win for broner wouldnt be that huge, but a ko stop would be impressive,,,
I think broner needs to beat maidana, and someone else like ghost, thurman, danny etc to be considered a p4p elite guy
if ANYONE else has the wins & accomplishments of AB they'd be considered legit. But AB is held to a different standard.
Whenever he pasts their tests (Ponce, Demarco, Paulie) they move the goalposts and name a new fighter he needs to beat to be legit.
I could name 5 other fighters that I would have rather seen Broner in with..When you can do that and his last fight was against a trash opponent there is a problem IMO..I can also name 5 more deserving opponents for Paulie..That's also a problem..
But what you are doing isn't right. You are basing Broner on what you want. Instea, he should be based on what he did. If another LW went up to 147 it would be an accomplishment. It shoul be considered same for Broner.
There are always more deserving people when a champion goes up to another weight and gets a fight. But that doesn't take away from this IMO.
How is going from 135 to 147 a step in the wrong direction? WHen has this ever been wrong?
ITs a young fighter taking on a less than peak veteran. This is how fighters have built there careers since the beginning, yet now its suddenly problematic?
I could name 5 other fighters that I would have rather seen Broner in with..When you can do that and his last fight was against a trash opponent there is a problem IMO..I can also name 5 more deserving opponents for Paulie..That's also a problem..
Mayweather Sr just came out and said Adrien's only been fighting stiffs. Several people, myself included, believe Broner has been carefully guided to 3 world titles in 3 weight classes by taking the path of least resistance. Picking on the undersized, overachieving WW Malignaggi for his WW splash didn't prove he is among the best. It only raised several more doubts by how much he struggled. Golden Boy is looking to chalk up another small WW who is a bit limited & overrated, but atleast packs a real punch. Some will say this fight will legitimize Broner. Still even a victory here will be against a guy who was floored several times by Ortiz, badly hurt by Josesito Lopez, & almost stopped in the first round by Amir Khan. Broner will need a better conquest to really earn his stripes. Who does Broner have to fight to earn respect? I for one say Lucas Matthysse, Kieth Thurman, & even Robert Guerrero after the little confrontation they had.
Legitimize himself to who? The Boxing critics or the Fans? Most people recognize him as a very talented fighter but there's also a boat load of people that want to see him fail (probably due to his "flashy" personality). So the people that hate him will always say he's not legitimate
When he beats Maidana then people will say Maidana is overrated and already lost before. That's the boxing game. Fans have these opinions about fighters and they bash them for their whole career. Look at Mayweather...he's undefeated and still gets **** from fans.
He's legit.
People are stupid.
Wins over Ponce (disputed), DeMarco, and Paulie aren't legit tests?
What it boils down to is personal dislike and haters not giving him credit.
Nobody! Hes the next Mayweather, in terms of hatred, so whomever he fights it will get hated on and labeled cherry pick. There will always be some other fighter he "ducked"
Well there is an old saying,who much is giving,much is expected..I believe Paulie was a step in the wrong direction and sent the wrong message out..Esp after a fight with Rees..It was not the best opponent,I'm happy people gave him an ear full tbh..It's a big reason we might get him in the ring with a Maidana now..
How is going from 135 to 147 a step in the wrong direction? WHen has this ever been wrong?
ITs a young fighter taking on a less than peak veteran. This is how fighters have built there careers since the beginning, yet now its suddenly problematic?
rios wouldn't get criticized before the fight for taking the fight.
Broner didn't impress against Paulie and if posters are on him for that I understand.
But to criticize the move or the win just because of who Broner is isn't right.
Well there is an old saying,who much is giving,much is expected..I believe Paulie was a step in the wrong direction and sent the wrong message out..Esp after a fight with Rees..It was not the best opponent,I'm happy people gave him an ear full tbh..It's a big reason we might get him in the ring with a Maidana now..
DeMarco and Burns,your right..Rios would be expected(as was Broner)to beat Paulie..
rios wouldn't get criticized before the fight for taking the fight.
Broner didn't impress against Paulie and if posters are on him for that I understand.
But to criticize the move or the win just because of who Broner is isn't right.
What are you hinting at?
Also, either Broner is 23 and unpolished...or he's 23 and accomplished a lot. Its one or the other...not which is convenient for discussion.
Not at hinting at anything. I'm stating quite clearly that posters judge what Broner has done by who they believe he is. Thats never a good thing.
Very few fighters would be criticized for going from 135 to 147 and winning the fight.
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