Why is Manny even still at ww?

Laziness. Why cut weight to 140 and match other peoples' sizes, when you can force people looking for a payday up to 147? It's not like he's forcing anybody to blow up. These fighters outweigh him naturally anyway. He's just too lazy to drop down to 140, when he doesn't have a reason to. In all honesty, I think he'd have an advantage fighting at 140, since he has much less weight to cut than his counterparts.

Why do people think Rios is small, the dude was fighting the little guys, if anything ww is the only benefit he will have in the fight.

The same light weight who had Berto pissing blood and closed both of his eyes??? That lightweight? OMG.....THE Berto?

Couple of things. No-one sees Pacquaio as a threat to Mayweather anymore. Floyd fans don't want to see him lose, period. Even to a black fighter. Because if Floyd ever lost, the incredible sh1tstorm that would take place would be absolutely astonishing :lol1: Saying that, the fact that these guys STILL hate on Pacquaio is a carry-on from the Pac-May wars. Even Mayweather himself is still butt-hurt over it. Again, I'll ask - isn't it odd that only one particular fanbase hate on Pacquiao? You shouldn't make generalizations like that. I'm a Floyd fan but I also like Pacquiao, Matthysse and GGG. The problem that I've seen since joining is that the posters here have been corrupted for the most part. Even the good posters are terrible when it comes to these two fighters. It's time that we appreciate these guys while they're still fighting. They don't have much time left.

Like Robert Guerrero the blown up lightweight? :lol1: The same light weight who had Berto pissing blood and closed both of his eyes??? That lightweight?

Bro, I respect the fact that you're trying to be civil and all here (I'm even going to take you off the Ignore I've had you on for years).......but you've been trolling the forum for years. YEARS. The Pac-May flame wars from 2009 onwards nearly destroyed this forum and you were in the thick of it. If you wanna make the forum better, you have to acknowledge your role in that period. My thing is this - am I biased? Of course. But what I always, always try to do is be as fair as I can. Because there is nothing more of a time-waste than defending a fighter you love when he's in the wrong. Trust me, if you ever decided not to defend Floyd and Broners asses when they acted like retards, you would find it liberating. At the moment, no-one respect what you have to say because everyone knows where you stand as soon as they seen you've posted in that thread. Racism gets you dinged from this site. Grotesque nut-huggery doesn't. You wanna make the forum a better place - than move on from the Floyd-Pac thing and just try to be as fair as you can. :boxing: Fair points. Yes I take hard shots at Manny and will continue to do so. But I don't call him anything racial. Obvious there are times when Ive joked about him. That said, I always give him his proper respect as a HOF'er. You call it defending floyd. If I don't think something is wrong i'm not going to say it is. I am a floyd fan and will not apologize for that. If a poster posts something I disagree with I can and will do so. But yes, I have contributed to the bad vibe and I will do what I can to make the site better.

He should fight other rated welterweights. Or move down and challenge rated 140 lb'ers. Enough of these BS orgs making up BS titles for him and then have his nuthugging fans claim he has won 25 titles in 12 divisions. enough is enough So what weight class should Pac fight again? And I never heard the "nuthugging fans" say he won 25 titles in 12 division. Please explain

What weight class should Pac fight in OP?

Look at why what happens? I don't understand what you're asking. Do you want me to admit Maniac, Thuggery, Tunney, Mr Fantastic are racist? Er, yeah? ok. so lets find a way to move forward and stop this. those guys are banned so there is no reason the rest of us have to get dragged down to that level. you with me in trying to make NSB better?

I will say this in defence of the black posters. I have a feeling that they hug those Mayweather and Broner nuts even tighter than they want to, cos they deal with a lot of racial stuff on the forum. Whenever Mayweather has a fight coming up, the racial politics on this site are out of control and so in response, I think they feel the need to defend Mayweather even stronger. so how do we move forward?

Are you saying thats not how it is in this particular forum? Yes it happens, I just want Garcia's Dad to look at why it happens. No one calls bojangles a racist and he hates floyd as much as anyone. Even you, even when Ive said directly I thought your posts were race baiting, Ive never accused you of being Hectari or Tunney. There is a difference.

Quick test - are you black? I'm not. And fuck Pacquiao's cherry picking ass. Y'all rip Mayweather apart for it, and just turn a blind eye to it when Pacquiao does the same shit. Then, with a straight face, call someone else a "fanboy" (or some other ridiculously stupid pet name).

are you saying if a poster criticizes matts, ggg, klits, manny, nonito repeatedly then you conclude they are black in part if they also post psoitive things about broner and floyd? Are you saying thats not how it is in this particular forum?

BTW, for the clarity of mods - this isn't race-baiting, I have no interest in that - but I do think it needs to be pointed out that alot of this retardation that goes on is fuelled by racial solidarity. And you know exactly what I'm talking about - the same guys who defend Floyd, Broner, Berto go after Pac, Donaire, Matthyse, Golovkin. That is why debating on this site is pointless - people are approaching topics from a particular perspective. Im black and I don't go after Pac, 3G, and Matthysse. I hold them to the same standards of a Floyd, Berto, or a Broner. That's why you probably see it as being hostile towards those guys. It goes both ways. Why shouldn't those guys be held to Floyd and Broner standards?

Thats odd. Im a Floyd fan and...... A fan of Matthyse and Golovkin. Not so much Pac and Donaire but I havent missed either of their fights in years. Just stop while you're ahead we dont need another Thuggery or Maniac wanna be. Keep it boxing bro. Or another you for that matter seeing as you are as guilty as them for race baiting. I just thought it was important to point that out in the interest of clarity, of course. The only difference between them and you is that they are currently banned.

Are you focking stupid? I mean, really? Of course I didn't need you to confirm it, I asked the question because I knew what the answer was. I don't need people to confirm their race, it's apparent if you pick up certain patters in terms of who people defend/criticise. are you saying if a poster criticizes matts, ggg, klits, manny, nonito repeatedly then you conclude they are black in part if they also post psoitive things about broner and floyd?

BTW, for the clarity of mods - this isn't race-baiting, I have no interest in that - but I do think it needs to be pointed out that alot of this retardation that goes on is fuelled by racial solidarity. And you know exactly what I'm talking about - the same guys who defend Floyd, Broner, Berto go after Pac, Donaire, Matthyse, Golovkin. That is why debating on this site is pointless - people are approaching topics from a particular perspective. I agree this isn't race baiting. Have you ever thought thats because some of the same posters that like Manny and race bait when not banned (thuggery, maniac, hectari, tunney, fantastic, etc) are huge fans of Matts and GGG? Come on dude you clearly aren't stupid but you are being intellectually lazy here. You are doing the very same thing you say you hate.

BTW, for the clarity of mods - this isn't race-baiting, I have no interest in that - but I do think it needs to be pointed out that alot of this retardation that goes on is fuelled by racial solidarity. And you know exactly what I'm talking about - the same guys who defend Floyd, Broner, Berto go after Pac, Donaire, Matthyse, Golovkin. That is why debating on this site is pointless - people are approaching topics from a particular perspective. Thats odd. Im a Floyd fan and...... A fan of Matthyse and Golovkin. Not so much Pac and Donaire but I havent missed either of their fights in years. Just stop while you're ahead we dont need another Thuggery or Maniac wanna be. Keep it boxing bro.

Quick test - are you black? Yes. quick test-unless I told you that would you know?

do you honestly think 135 is rios' best weight where he looked like a zombie in his last weigh-in? that dude is big even for 140 Its weebler II's argument so I asked him. I don't think anyone knows how Rios will be at 147. Just because he rehydrates up in weight doesn't mean his power will be there at 147.