Malevolent Maidana Myths

Certainly. And he doesn't get the kind of media attention that Bernard Hopkins gets. Hopkins is known for staying in shape year round. Guess what? Chino stays in shape too, even if he doesn't have a contract signed. The man is a serious boxer. No joke. This is true.

Fact: Khan fans have an average of 12 stitches in their buttholes and need constant medication for the pain. Maidana has been matched well over the last year and half. The guy actually sets up and picks his power shots a little bit better and suddenly he's this brand new fighter.

Maidana's "improvements" have strangely coincided with a drop in competition level. And boom goes the dynamite

His jab is not prodding.. Its thudding. And while his opponent recovers from what felt like a right hand, the actual right hand lands. His jab is like a power shot and it will help him win a lot of fights. Maidana also has a left hook to the body that you are leaving out. The jab will help him catch more elusive opponents it really is as simple as that. Boxing can be very nuanced, but very elemental at the same time. Great power with decent technique can be the ultimate simplifier. All time great post. Cleverly said, Syf. That's so true.

Myth # 1.. Maidana is soft to the body, He's just waiting to be knocked out by a body shot. Um, no. He got hit by a perfectly placed shot to the liver in the Khan fight. And he was hurt to the hip against Lopez. You can't be soft to the damn hip! Also, he has been down from shots to the head too. He always gets up. So to say he is especially soft to the body is wrong. Myth # 2.. Maidana is the same fighter as when he fought Khan, Devon, ect. No... He actually uses a jab now and sets up his shots. If you can't see the difference, that's on you. Some accredit this to Garcia, and I'm one of them, but its also testament to Maidana's ability. He's a dog that can learn new tricks. Myth # 3.. Such and such a fighter would steamroll Maidana. Aint nobody steamrolling a Maidana that jabs and sets up his shots. Mayweather beats him because that's a bad style matchup... Unless he can catch him.. eh. But the rest of the ww field is open to a guy like Maidana. He gives anyone at this stage a tough fight, anyone. He would have a good chance to beat: Thurman, Mags, Broner, Ghost, Bradley, Berto, Provodnikov, Pacquiao, Marquez, Matss, Garcia and anyone else you might name, save for Money May. Some of those fights have longer odds than others, but if any of them were odds in a Casino, I would take them in a heartbeat. Myth # 4 Maidana is a club fighter. This comes from the fanbase that thinks the only kind of boxer needs to be a technician along the lines of Rigo, Floyd, Ward, ect, to be good. He has proven he is more than a club fighter and the only way you might hold this view is if you think there is no room for brawlers and KO artists in boxing. And I say boxing can have all types. Myth #5 Maidana is one dimensional The guy has shown the ability, in recent fights, to momentarily retreat, and then hit with counter shots.. He can fight behind his jab, and he can throw lead shots too. You aint gonna ever see Maidana not try to get the KO, even in his losses. So that would be the extent of his 1 dimensionalism. But he has shown he can adapt from how he has changed over the last several fights, and any fighter that can adapt is not 1 dimensional. Things to work on: cutting off the ring. That's all I can think of.. if you have another drop it here... Or if you disagree tell me why. LoadedWraps approves this thread. Well now Maidana is a two time world champion :boxing: Haters need to see to believe, and even then sometimes it isn't enough.

great thread, and the fact you posted it before broner is amazing haha

Marcos Maidana is a class act boxer. He takes his craft seriously and gives it 100% all the time. As with all athletes, he has his limitations but by no means is he a gate keeper or club fighter. He is at that A-/B+ level. I wish he would have stayed at 140 a bit longer but I guess his body had out grown that division. At 147 he is still someone that you have to reckon with. Just my two cents. Certainly. And he doesn't get the kind of media attention that Bernard Hopkins gets. Hopkins is known for staying in shape year round. Guess what? Chino stays in shape too, even if he doesn't have a contract signed. The man is a serious boxer. No joke.

Fact: Khan fans have an average of 12 stitches in their buttholes and need constant medication for the pain. Why? Khan holds a victory over Maidana. How many stitches did Maidana's butthole need after it fell out in the first round when Khan landed that body shot?

Yes Maidana is an improved fighter since he has joined up with Garcia, but I would not go as far as to say that he is a transformed fighter like many people claim. His fights since he joined Garcia have been against guys who are there to be hit. Lopez, Karas, Broner, and some other guy who we never heard of. Credit goes to Maidana for beating them, however it was not easy for Maidana in the three fights. He was still getting tagged by all three of them, I think if Maidana got in there with someone like Bradley he will be severely embarrassed.

Great thread, Syf. For a second there I thought it was punchr laying that knowledge on these fools lol. You forgot a popular one, "Maidana is slow". Seriously, there is this misconception that Maidana is a slow fighter. He moves in a mechanical way but his punches are not slow at all. Marquez touched up on this in an episode of Golpe A Golpe. There are instances where Maidana is finishing up a shot and the other one is already on its way, this was seen time and time again during the Broner fight.

Maidana's "improvements" have strangely coincided with a drop in competition level. Fact: Khan fans have an average of 12 stitches in their buttholes and need constant medication for the pain.

Funny enough I use to rate Maidana highly when he was in Germany, then he was fighting with a jab, but the moment he fought Ortiz and won by KO he seems to ignore all the attributes that gave Andrea Kotelnik so much problems. Then I had him to KO khan and even people on here were saying all he needed was a punch to land on Khan, From then on I just kinda lost interest in him. But he proved me wrong against Broner and am looking forward to his fight against Mayweather.

Well now Maidana is a two time world champion :boxing:

I'm not trying to cover anything up. I DIDN'T know about his "regular" title and I also DIDN'T care and I DIDN'T think anyone counted those as world titles :lol1: its not a real world title. the regular title is just another name for another interim belt. the super champ is the "real" champ. they are all frauds though.

Try to cover up all you want, originally you were talking about interim and intercontinental titles... You didn't know about his regular world title. The truth is sanctioning bodies frown upon unifications nowadays. That's why they changed Khan's belt. Its not a feather in the cap or anything, but technically maidana has had a world title. And most assuredly you didn't know about it. Now try to spin it like you always do. I'm not trying to cover anything up. I DIDN'T know about his "regular" title and I also DIDN'T care and I DIDN'T think anyone counted those as world titles :lol1:

Khan never held the "regular" title. He was the full champion because he actually beat the champion. They only create a "regular" title when a super champion is crowned. The regular title is just created for a couple of bums to fight over so the WBA can pick up more sanctioning fees. THAT is what you consider a world title :lol1: So yeah....back to my original point - Maidana has never been a world champion and is fringe world level at best. Try to cover up all you want, originally you were talking about interim and intercontinental titles... You didn't know about his regular world title. The truth is sanctioning bodies frown upon unifications nowadays. That's why they changed Khan's belt. Its not a feather in the cap or anything, but technically maidana has had a world title. And most assuredly you didn't know about it. Now try to spin it like you always do. Another hypothetical imaginary situation? Your favourite. Call it a prediction.

I'm sure you weren't saying anything when khan had the regular title, before the unification. Khan never held the "regular" title. He was the full champion because he actually beat the champion. They only create a "regular" title when a super champion is crowned. The regular title is just created for a couple of bums to fight over so the WBA can pick up more sanctioning fees. THAT is what you consider a world title :lol1: So yeah....back to my original point - Maidana has never been a world champion and is fringe world level at best. So what are you going to say when Maidana smashes Broner and picks up a belt, while Khan gets sparked out by journeymen?? "Loldinozorz! He still lost to Khan though!" Another hypothetical imaginary situation? Your favourite.

How about the myth that he ducked Thurman? He did though

Yeah but jitters doesn't have anything to do with skill level, and if his jitters were that bad, he would have been knocked out much sooner. This guy (Chaves) was throwing sharp, pin point counter shots with authority and it was pretty even at the time of the stoppage. If Maidana fights Chaves, I'm not sure he comes out the victor. Maidana was hurt against Lopez and Karass, so theres no doubt in my mind Thurman stops him and brutally for the simple fact that he can also box when he needs to in order to set traps, and hes really a 154 pounder thats coming down in weight (he fought Quintana at 154 if not mistaking). He puts mustard behind every shot and can do it for 12 rounds. Nah he too green and Chaves don't have Maidana's pop. You let Maidana hit someone the way Chaves was and they'd be out of there. As for Thurman, I think he has some good skills, pop, and instinct, but he also a little too green to beat Maidana at this point. Both good fighters with a bright future though, its just at this stage of the game Maidana can fight a little more brutal than the both of them and he has a veteran's mindset in there. He didn't give it up. When you unify the WBA title, they give you the super title. I didn't realise people actually counted "regular" titles as world championships :lol1: I guess it's slim pickings for Maidana fans - you guys have to take what you can get. I'm sure you weren't saying anything when khan had the regular title, before the unification. So what are you going to say when Maidana smashes Broner and picks up a belt, while Khan gets sparked out by journeymen?? "Loldinozorz! He still lost to Khan though!" Living in the past. But I guess that's all a khan fan can do. Its a slow, lazy prodding jab to set up that overhand right. Hes a one trick pony and only has one win at welterweight against a legit welterweight in Karass who is a fringe contender so I am not sure what makes you think his futures so bright. Hes slow as hell and jab or not, he won't ever beat anybody with decent movement. The only way he beats anybody is if a C level guy stands in front of him or tries to fight off the ropes against him. Don't stand and trade, stay off the ropes its as simple as that in short. He is seriously limited and has one gear. His jab is not prodding.. Its thudding. And while his opponent recovers from what felt like a right hand, the actual right hand lands. His jab is like a power shot and it will help him win a lot of fights. Maidana also has a left hook to the body that you are leaving out. The jab will help him catch more elusive opponents it really is as simple as that. Boxing can be very nuanced, but very elemental at the same time. Great power with decent technique can be the ultimate simplifier.

Maidana is an action fighter, he has started to work behind the jab since going to welter,,, I think he is very fun to watch, but i also think he is very limited,,, vs guys like lopez, karass, ortiz,peterson, broner, he looks really good... vs guys with movement and skills like alexander bradley jmm manny floyd he would look horrible.. Khan dragged him and if khan had any type of chin maidana would have had no chance in that fight...