Lomachenko was in the US a couple weeks ago and has finally released a statement saying that he has a contract and is just reviewing all the legal fine print and expects to sign it in a week or two. He plans to make his pro debut in mid to late October at 126lbs and said he would like to fight the Salido vs Cruz winner if they're open to fighting him.
http://www.boxingnews.com.ua/ru/novosti/5777-lomachenko-hochet-dratsja-s-pobeditelem-boja-salido-krus
He didn't name a promoter but the WBO title fight between Salido vs Cruz is October 12th on the Marquez vs Bradley Top Rank HBO card. I wonder if he'll make his debut on that undercard to try to set up a title shot against the winner of that fight?
Interesting note : Saensak Muangsurin holds the record for winning a world title in only his 3rd pro fight. If Lomachenko got that fight and won a title in his 2nd pro fight it would be a new record.
Sparrimg 16 rounds isn't anywhere near the same as fighting 12 rounds. I know pro boxers that spar 30 rounds and they arent even world class level. Its not wrong to.say that he's not ready for a world title fight. Its the truth.
wait what, 30 rounds of sparring? ads up to to hour and a half.. may be you meant they prepare for the fight and have total 30 rounds of sparring?
Arum is too smart to let him do this (if that's who his promoter is.) Salido would drag him into deep waters and beat him right now IMO.
Also I don't know how I feel about an unranked fighter just jumping to the top of the line over all the other contenders. Doesn't seem right, he should work his way up the ladder like everyone else.
Salido is fighting Cruz for a title, and also look who he fought in year after he beat Lopez for the titles, were they "contenders who deserved it"?
Everybody "skips in line"
I'm aware. Muay Thai fights are 5 rounds by the way so that experience wasn't any help with 12 rounds or the fact that it's a completely different sport. Muangsurin in 3 and Payakaroon in 4 fights did it though. Big accomplishments require big risk and Vasyl and his Father are confident. I'll be watching and so will you.
Muay Thai prepares your legs and it's seriously brutal going five hard rounds from 10 years old. It prepares you for the rigours of a hard 12 round pro boxing fight better than a 3 round amateur boxing session with headgear does.
I'll be watching no matter what he does, but if they do it this way, they are stupid. It's that simple. Put him in with a much faded former champion for 8/10 rounds first up and see how it goes. Someone more faded than Salido though.
Arum is too smart to let him do this (if that's who his promoter is.) Salido would drag him into deep waters and beat him right now IMO.
Also I don't know how I feel about an unranked fighter just jumping to the top of the line over all the other contenders. Doesn't seem right, he should work his way up the ladder like everyone else.
The main difference is that in pro boxing fights you have to go 10-12 rounds, while in the amateurs you only have to fight 3 rounds.
So even if Lomachenko faced great amateur competition and they were better than many pro gatekeepers and cab drivers, he's still completely unproven at 10-12 round boxing matches. There's only a way to prepare for 10 rounders and that's by fighting 10 rounders, period.
He's been fighting 5 Rounders in the WSB. If that's the only way to prepare, then how do you fight a 12 rounder in the first place?
alright since most peopel already viewed this thread and won't come back, also most might not forget this or take it serious) here's somethign that havent been mentioned to reporters.
I know for fact, that Vasya spars 15 rounds, 2-3 times a week. Don't ask me further questions. Does he spar professionals - no. but hes been preparing for pro 12 rounds for awhile already. be patient, and who knows, may be he is next Ali, and if he loses his 1st or 2nd fight for title - then be it.
I'm out to bed, peace
Sparrimg 16 rounds isn't anywhere near the same as fighting 12 rounds. I know pro boxers that spar 30 rounds and they arent even world class level. Its not wrong to.say that he's not ready for a world title fight. Its the truth.
alright since most peopel already viewed this thread and won't come back, also most might not forget this or take it serious) here's somethign that havent been mentioned to reporters.
I know for fact, that Vasya spars 15 rounds, 2-3 times a week. Don't ask me further questions. Does he spar professionals - no. but hes been preparing for pro 12 rounds for awhile already. be patient, and who knows, may be he is next Ali, and if he loses his 1st or 2nd fight for title - then be it.
I'm out to bed, peace
That would be one loss no one could hold too much against him, especially if he gave any world champion a good fight. If he won? Holy hell.
alright since most peopel already viewed this thread and won't come back, also most might not forget this or take it serious) here's somethign that havent been mentioned to reporters.
I know for fact, that Vasya spars 15 rounds, 2-3 times a week. Don't ask me further questions. Does he spar professionals - no. but hes been preparing for pro 12 rounds for awhile already. be patient, and who knows, may be he is next Ali, and if he loses his 1st or 2nd fight for title - then be it.
I'm out to bed, peace
Well he faced the top amateurs in the world. It prepares him 100X more then fighting complete bums with records like 3-10 for 2 years that he completely destroys. Those amateurs he faced are probably as good as pros ranked in the 30s, maybe even better.
Only that worries me is it being a 12 round fight, since he's never even fought half of that against a relentless guy like Salido who never stops coming
The main difference is that in pro boxing fights you have to go 10-12 rounds, while in the amateurs you only have to fight 3 rounds.
So even if Lomachenko faced great amateur competition and they were better than many pro gatekeepers and cab drivers, he's still completely unproven at 10-12 round boxing matches. There's only a way to prepare for 10 rounders and that's by fighting 10 rounders, period.
They aren't completely different sports. Fighting top amateurs is a much bigger challenge then fight bums that don't even know how to fight, it prepares you much much more for a top pro then Koing a guy who doesn't throw back in 50 secs. Most of the technique and ability is built in the gym for a pros few years, not In the ring against nobodies. So many fighters fight years unchallenged and then when they fight someone with a pulse, they fold
Rigo-cordoba looked horrible because both are tentitive counter punchers
Green K for common sense and respect for thebtalent in elite amateurs.
Lomachenko was in the US a couple weeks ago and has finally released a statement saying that he has a contract and is just reviewing all the legal fine print and expects to sign it in a week or two. He plans to make his pro debut in mid to late October at 126lbs and said he would like to fight the Salido vs Cruz winner if they're open to fighting him.
http://www.boxingnews.com.ua/ru/novosti/5777-lomachenko-hochet-dratsja-s-pobeditelem-boja-salido-krus
He didn't name a promoter but the WBO title fight between Salido vs Cruz is October 12th on the Marquez vs Bradley Top Rank HBO card. I wonder if he'll make his debut on that undercard to try to set up a title shot against the winner of that fight?
Interesting note : Saensak Muangsurin holds the record for winning a world title in only his 3rd pro fight. If Lomachenko got that fight and won a title in his 2nd pro fight it would be a new record.
Green K for news
Well he faced the top amateurs in the world. It prepares him 100X more then fighting complete bums with records like 3-10 for 2 years that he completely destroys. Those amateurs he faced are probably as good as pros ranked in the 30s, maybe even better.
Only that worries me is it being a 12 round fight, since he's never even fought half of that against a relentless guy like Salido who never stops coming
You're right; but as I said before, these guys were fighting each other as amateurs. WSB appeals to cults and clans, which is a big part of boxing promotion. I don't think it does the fighters that much good.
And I agree with New England and BennyST, it's probably not a good idea for any amateur, not even Lomachenko, to jump straight into twelve rounders versus top pro opposition.
Lomachenko has talent for sure, and could make waves in the pro game. A fight against someone relentless like Salido to start things off with , may well backfire though.
they are completely different sports. that's not at all a valid comparison. there's a reason top amateurs don't jump in with top 50 calibur opponents right away, and it's because they can lose.
the top amateurs do not automatically make top pros, especially today. just look at the olympics and world championships, and the world champions they produce. sure, some of the best make it, but most of them do not pan out into world champions. the sports are far too much unalike.
lets see how lomachenko does in a 10 or 12 round fight before we break out the annointing oil.
just think about how bad rigondeaux looked until he got in a few pro fights. the guy almost got knocked out by ricardo cordoba's dead body.
They aren't completely different sports. Fighting top amateurs is a much bigger challenge then fight bums that don't even know how to fight, it prepares you much much more for a top pro then Koing a guy who doesn't throw back in 50 secs. Most of the technique and ability is built in the gym for a pros few years, not In the ring against nobodies. So many fighters fight years unchallenged and then when they fight someone with a pulse, they fold
Rigo-cordoba looked horrible because both are tentitive counter punchers