Rigondeaux, seriously dude?!

Oh man, what fight were you watching? When he had Donaire down to one eye and one hand he chased him and couldn't do ****. The only punch Nito was throwing was the left hook and Rigo couldn't mount any kind of offense. This! Exactly my thoughts. Rigo can't finish Donaire playing peek-a-boo on him! I'm gritting my teeth until now!

As a Donaire fan, I can't pretend that I liked the fight. But Rigo is a very talented guy, very fleet of hand and foot. Nonito should have really pressed for the KO in the 10th. Its the only chance he had in the whole fight. Rig had him under a neutralization blanket the whole rest of the fight. He needed to let his hands GO in the 10th. That was the most frustrating part of the fight for me, not Rigo's... "Creative evading", let's call it, whenever he felt the ropes anywhere near his back. I was dissappointed in Donaire.. He gave Rigo too much respect. Rigo is to be respected, don't get me wrong, but not to the point where you are ceding momentum of the fight to him. Donaire, to me, had the most success going to Rigo's body. Each time he did he caused Rigo to reset. Aside from the KD, headhunting a giuy like Rigo is not so wise... He'll slip and slide out of your attacks. Easier to touch the body of a slick fighter.. That's what he should have done really pressed the body attack on this one. Oh well.. Frustrating fight to watch overall. I'm not gonna pretend I enjoyed it so I can get a "boxing purist" merit badge. I know what I saw, and I don't need to prove it by agreeing with the HbO announcing team word for word, or acclaiming the thing as a "tense" fight. The only tenseness I felt was a mild anxiety because Nonito wouldn't throw his damn hands! I made myself watch every replay on HBO's several channels with the last one just airing at midnight tonight. Donaire's offence did go into high gear in the 10th round and he finally rolled the dice by being overly aggressive, but Rigondeaux fired concussive counter lefts into his face several times that round as he made Donaire' chase him in desperation. In round 11 there was a counter left that should have knocked Donaire's head off his shoulders the sound it made as Nonito got careless and ran into it. Then in round 12 his face finally busted due to yet another of myriad left power shots he ran into - if Donaire' had gone for broke earlier than round 10, I firmly believe his face would have just gotten busted up earlier and he would have been knocked out because he would have paid for his overly aggressive low-percentage attack. Look, Nonito was being overly cautious and conservative for a reason - he didn't want to run into something serious like he did in round 12 and maybe end up face first like Pacquiao:boxing:

Congrats to Rigondeaux! But what the f*ck?! He treated ‘the fight’ like an amateur! He got mad skills and yet he potshots like he’s going for his 3rd Olympic gold! This ain’t a touch ‘n go god damn it! He sure has a hell lot of chance KO’ing Donaire if he was more aggressive; he’s got lightning fast hands and reflexes. Why is he too damn cautious when he’s toying Donaire much of the fight?! Pretty sure the booing that resonated all throughout is not for Nonito! But on a second thought, if he engaged Donaire more, he could’ve landed on his arse a dozen more times. Watching him fight is more painful than a Pac left, I promise! I want Donaire to move up and be a 5 division champ! He should only accept a rematch if Rigondeaux signed it on the rematch clause that he’s going to throw 200 punches every single round otherwise the round automatically goes to Nonito!:drillserg for real...? :dunce: :ban:

lol but he did get dropped too everybody ignores that, but when Martinez did the same thing he gets talked down. I'm not taking anything away as he did great but I was just comparing the fights lol Chavez was on drugs so nothing he does counts. But...I think: 1) If Nonito just sat back, not pushed the action and avoided the straight left he could have won one of the most boring decisions in the history of superfights. 2) If we went 'Andre Ward' on Rigo and out-bullied him he could have dominated.

because martinez got dropped and had to survive the rest of the fight when rigo got dropped, it was really a balance shot. after that he resumed controlling the fight, and had nonito on the run in the 12th. lol survive the rest of the fight as in the last minute where Martinez thought he had it in the bag after 11 rounds of complete domination.

Did you miss the fight? When he had Donaire hurt badly he tried to go for it. Donaire is a tough bastard and very dangerous when hurt because he has such fight changing counters. Rigo went after Donaire big time in what was supposed to be Donaire's field during the championship rounds and nearly stopped him. For a guy with so few fights, he has done what no one else has gotten close to doing. That's embarrassing on Donaire's part. To lose the championship rounds against a guy with 11 pro fights who has only been more than 8 rounds two times. You should have dropped this thread long ago. Oh man, what fight were you watching? When he had Donaire down to one eye and one hand he chased him and couldn't do ****. The only punch Nito was throwing was the left hook and Rigo couldn't mount any kind of offense.

Like I said I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Rigo boxed beautifully. Donaire had no answers for Rigo. NONE. You casual fans should be mad at Donaire.

i was kind of dissapointed in the middle rounds, he slowed down a lot but he still completely neutralized nonito One thing people still clearly miss is that he was an 11 fight, 4 year rookie pro going in against a prime, HOF, multiple division champion who has proven his mettle many times over across a 33 fight, 13 year pro career. He is still learning his pacing. I guarantee that he was pacing himself in the middle rounds because he's still not fully sure of his stamina. He's only been past eight rounds two times in his life. Clearly he had worked hard enough for it though because he dominated the start of the fight and the championship rounds and nearly stopped Donaire late, which was considered to be Donaire's period of the fight going in, because of his experience and many times going past eight rounds. Don't forget, despite all his amateur experience, this was still an 11 fight rookie pro, without a single elite pro fight, going in against a prime P4P champ with every advantage. I don't doubt for a second that his 'lull' in the middle rounds was entirely due to his inexperience over the distance and the fact that he'd only had 11 pro fights. For a guy going in against Donaire, it doesn't matter how many amateur fights you've had, because the pro game is way too different. No matter how many amateur fights you've had it does not prepare you for going the distance in a world championship fight against the elite, proven guys. What amazes me is that he won the start of the fight, and won the championship rounds too. I was more amazed that his 'lull' was so short and still consisted of him winning the rounds. Not only that, but he came back to win the championship rounds which is the truest mark of a great fighter. I'm not a troll god damn it! Look, I'm green! I'm a casual boxing fan and I f*cking hate Rigo for not putting Donaire to sleep when he could! :burnup: Did you miss the fight? When he had Donaire hurt badly he tried to go for it. Donaire is a tough bastard and very dangerous when hurt because he has such fight changing counters. Rigo went after Donaire big time in what was supposed to be Donaire's field during the championship rounds and nearly stopped him. For a guy with so few fights, he has done what no one else has gotten close to doing. That's embarrassing on Donaire's part. To lose the championship rounds against a guy with 11 pro fights who has only been more than 8 rounds two times. You should have dropped this thread long ago.

lol this a troll thread??? I'm not a troll god damn it! Look, I'm green! I'm a casual boxing fan and I f*cking hate Rigo for not putting Donaire to sleep when he could! :burnup:

lol this a troll thread???

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p305/kyaroso/tumblr_mfrukpKsrp1ric1qso1_250_zpsca585661.gif These casual "boxing fans" are a riot! I'm a casual boxing fan so f*ck it!:spankme:

Also Nonito needs to add a little jumpstep to his hooks. He was missing horribly with his homerun hooks in the championship rounds while getting tagged by rigo's straighter shots. Rigo is on the outside.. U aint gonna hit him with a hook with your damn feet planted. You need to take your chances and jump him.

I don't know who's more afraid of the two, you're telling Nonito's fear of Rigo's power attributed to Donaire's lesser punch output and yet Donaire was the one hunting Rigo all throughout. My point is, Rigo could've done more to put down Donaire. He's just happy to have a decision win. Now why would a chinny boxer, with limited punching power, stand in the center of the ring, to trade and exchange punches with one of the biggest p4p punchers in the sport? That would have been very reckless and foolhardy of him to do and it would have been playing right into Nonito's hands. That was not the game plan. The strategy was to neutralize Nonito's punching power and it had worked to perfection. Guillermo was setting up traps for Donaire, with his constant movements, from the outside by daring Donaire to bum rush him with flurries of punches; So he could time and counter him while coming in. However, to Nonito's credit; He refused to bite the bait. Yes, while it is true that Donaire was the one doing most of the hunting but at the same time while doing so, he was still loading up on single haymakers/power punches at a time. One cannot expect to land a KO punch against one of the best defensive fighters in the sport with just haymakers. Had Donaire opened up and put more of his punches together, then perhaps he would have possibly run the risk of getting KO'd himself. Besides, even when Guillermo wasn't moving and standing flat-footed in front of Nonito, he still was reluctant to put multiple punches together.

As a Donaire fan, I can't pretend that I liked the fight. But Rigo is a very talented guy, very fleet of hand and foot. Nonito should have really pressed for the KO in the 10th. Its the only chance he had in the whole fight. Rig had him under a neutralization blanket the whole rest of the fight. He needed to let his hands GO in the 10th. That was the most frustrating part of the fight for me, not Rigo's... "Creative evading", let's call it, whenever he felt the ropes anywhere near his back. I was dissappointed in Donaire.. He gave Rigo too much respect. Rigo is to be respected, don't get me wrong, but not to the point where you are ceding momentum of the fight to him. Donaire, to me, had the most success going to Rigo's body. Each time he did he caused Rigo to reset. Aside from the KD, headhunting a giuy like Rigo is not so wise... He'll slip and slide out of your attacks. Easier to touch the body of a slick fighter.. That's what he should have done really pressed the body attack on this one. Oh well.. Frustrating fight to watch overall. I'm not gonna pretend I enjoyed it so I can get a "boxing purist" merit badge. I know what I saw, and I don't need to prove it by agreeing with the HbO announcing team word for word, or acclaiming the thing as a "tense" fight. The only tenseness I felt was a mild anxiety because Nonito wouldn't throw his damn hands!

I'm not taking away Rigo's win, I'm just gritting my teeth the whole fight for both fighters to get close and personal, I mean, be more aggressive and try to put each others asses down god damn it! At least Donaire TRIED, Rigo DIDN'T! The fight was great. It was my type of fight, it was very tactical and the better boxer came out on top. There are wars like Rios-Alvarado II, Bradley-Provodnikov, and then there are schoolings like Hopkins-Cloud and Rigondeaux-Donaire. I enjoy both.

Rigondeaux did what he had to do, he showed respect for Donaire's power, doing otherwise would have been stupid. Maybe he could have risked a bit more in the 12th, when Donaire looked hurt and was fighting with one eye covered, but I can't really blame him for that. Let's look at what Donaire did and didn't do though. He only tried to set up his offence with a jab a couple of times, if you want to fight at mid range, you need a jab. Rigondeaux is slick, fast, extremely talented, and a south paw, it's all true. Still, I think Nonito should have taken the risk after round 8th or so. He didn't rough it up on the inside. Then again, if you slip under a jab without throwing something it's much easier for your opponent to clinch. To be honest though, he didn't even seem to be looking to fight on the inside, not often at least. He wasn't effective in cutting off the ring, but that is also because of Rigondeaux movement, so I wouldn't bash on him for that. What is more concerning, in my opinion, is that he didn't look comfortable when leading. He was forced to lead, it's not what he wanted. His problem in this fight was his inability to create counter punching opportunities. He simply waited for Rigondeaux to open up, which didn't happen. Usually a counter puncher will try to force his opponent to lead by estabilishing the jab or by 'touching' the body. In this fight Donaire wasn't able to do either, ending up looking like a brawler who is only waiting for an occasion to land a big left hook , getting hit in the process.

After Donaire lost the first four rounds it was up to him to open up and force the action El Chacal already was ahead and decided to put it in cruise control cuz it was easy work. Bob Arum should of just put El Chacal in there with Abner Mares atleast he would have fought until he got knocked out unlike Donaire. This would have been perfect in could have opened up the door for them to do business.

I see a lot of people defending RIgo, which is fine, cause he puton a beautiful performance, bt if you call rds 8and 9 (I think these are the two) boxing, then you are just wrong. THat was running. I don't know why he really did that anyways. When he stayed in the pocket he had just as much success.

rigondeaux knew exactly if he becomes overly agressive, he'd suffer! I think you have it backwards man. http://i47.tinypic.com/6tmzqg.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/jq5fg7.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2e33n8k.jpg

Is this thread a joke?