Most Unforgivable RTD/Quit?

If you want to see a proper quit job look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkmrmrnD1d8 Hurricane quit after literally not one punch landed

Golota vs Grant

Which fighter would you consider that most unforgivable for retiring during a fight, and refusing to fight on? I'll throw a few names/fights in a poll.. By far Mike Tyson Vs Kevin McBride Tyson ahead on all scorecards quits after the sixth round. Tyson announced his retirement after the fight, saying, "I don't have the guts to fight anymore. My heart is not in it anymore. I don't want to disrespect the sport I love." BY FAR this is Unforgivable to not finish a fight that you are winning and do this even if you had a legendary career like Tyson, you don't do this to the people who payed to watch you fight.

How is that after 6 pages nobody mentioned that Arreola did not quit against Vitali? Either his corner or the ref stopped it. Can anyone confirm which? Because when the ref was waving his arms to indicate it was over, Arreola's trainer was shaking his head at him. Marg did not quit against Cotto either. Well I was going by the official record in those two cases (not all cases) but they are both recorded as RTD, whether it was corner stoppage or not. It's unclear what happened exactly but they must be RTDs for a reason, maybe all the verbal exchanges at the time of the stoppage weren't caught by the live cameras. In the Dawson vs Ward fight it's recorded as a TKO but Dawson said to the ref "get me outta here" after which the ref stopped the fight.

Guys, stop debating and watch this. That's your answer, bar none. this is worse then all of them. i like golota so i guess i somehow forgot that blatant quit...his corner was pissed off!!!!

ortiz\maidana was a close 2nd especially after the "i don't deserve that" interview. i'm a HW fan & when i watched vitali\byrd i fully expected vitali to punish & KO byrd. i had him way out in front & then he retired. all he had to do was get on his bike for a couple rounds & hold on to his trinket(WBO title)& his undefeated record. he did it live on HBO. i always thought it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. if he didn't quit vs byrd would lennox have been so quick to have him replace kirk johnson on short notice? not many fighters have gotten more out of a loss then vitali klitschko.

The Matrix against the King...especially two years later with the ABSENCE of a doctor note.

I watched this fight again last night and, whether it was my memory slipping or i just noticed it more last night, Ortiz was getting brutalised to the body. You could see it in the second round especially. He was getting hit in every clinch and it was clearly really hurting him. Then when he got dropped from that body shot...he knew he didn't have a chance against Maidana in such beast mode. He just slowly getting destroyed and it was certainly the body shots that made him give it all up. Edit: also, he should have been a righty. He's just not comfortable as a lefty. Every time he throws the left hand he brings his left leg with him so he ends up standing straight up in front of his opponent completely squared up. It's why he gets dropped so much. It's the reason he kept getting hit so bad in that fight. It's a pity I guess. If he had stayed righty, he would be so much better I think. His balance and footwork would be much, much, much better and I think he wouldn't struggle as much with that indecision to be either a boxer or brawler because he wouldn't get hit so easily and wouldn't struggle with stupid mistakes like bringing his back foot up. Even when he has his feet in position his shoulders are so squared up still. Maybe but as much as I dislike Ortiz, one thing I love about him is his right hook right uppercut combination, you rarely see that from southpaws. What Victor shouldn't be trying to do is box, his straight left hand ain't all that which is why Floyd kept moving to his left, I'm certain Roger saw that, it's best he stays a pressure fighter and commits to it. It's when he boxed that Maidana started to land the overhand rights, that Peterson found himself back in the fight...he's simply no boxer.

None of them. The most unconvincing "retirement" I've seen was of Camacho Junior against Jesse James Leija. many of the choice retirements were in late rounds, which makes "retirement" far less likely anyway.

Ortiz, by that point, was pretty much done. When you're getting beat up that bad, and your face is turning into a mess with grotesque welts, it doesn't matter that you've got the power to hurt this guy. It was a firefight and he realised he had lost. Devon stunk it up and then faked his way out of it. At least Ortiz lay it on the line for a while. Did Devon? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android What I'm saying is, against their perspective opponents, Ortiz had the ability to turn things around, Devon didn't and it showed from the getgo. Ortiz was only eating over hand rights because he decided to box, back up straight, he never took it upon himself to gamble again. Ortiz quit knowing very well that he could hurt Maidana, that Maidana lacked defense and was vulnerable. Devon quit shamefully as well but again, there was absolutely nothing he could do in there, that's the opposite of Ortiz's situation. Rarely do you see fighters quit in Ortiz's situation.

He only had two fights with Corrales. :lol1: Whoops. Fixed it. (in my best Eddie Murphy voice) YEAH. DATWUTIMENTTASAY! :D

Ortiz was getting beat the hell up. Devon was getting outworked. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android I'm speaking more in a sense that Ortiz was fully capable of changing the fight around, he has that kind of ability and power. Alexander on the other hand couldn't do a thing, Bradley was pretty much eating away at him in close and didn't allow Alexander to get off from long range. Of course Ortiz took the bigger beating, not disputing that but this is why I consider Ortiz's quitting to be more disgraceful, not that I'm justifying what Devon did.

Ortiz's quitting was most disgraceful. He was practically hurting/ or dropping Maidana with every clean punch he threw, especially the right hook, so for him to quit like that and not gamble, that was straight up shameful. Ortiz was also ahead in the fight. Alexander on the other hand couldn't handle the pressure, all he could do was hold, the way he quit was shameful but unlike Ortiz, he had nothing to offer his opponent. I watched this fight again last night and, whether it was my memory slipping or i just noticed it more last night, Ortiz was getting brutalised to the body. You could see it in the second round especially. He was getting hit in every clinch and it was clearly really hurting him. Then when he got dropped from that body shot...he knew he didn't have a chance against Maidana in such beast mode. He just slowly getting destroyed and it was certainly the body shots that made him give it all up. Edit: also, he should have been a righty. He's just not comfortable as a lefty. Every time he throws the left hand he brings his left leg with him so he ends up standing straight up in front of his opponent completely squared up. It's why he gets dropped so much. It's the reason he kept getting hit so bad in that fight. It's a pity I guess. If he had stayed righty, he would be so much better I think. His balance and footwork would be much, much, much better and I think he wouldn't struggle as much with that indecision to be either a boxer or brawler because he wouldn't get hit so easily and wouldn't struggle with stupid mistakes like bringing his back foot up. Even when he has his feet in position his shoulders are so squared up still.

Ortiz's quitting was most disgraceful. He was practically hurting/ or dropping Maidana with every clean punch he threw, especially the right hook, so for him to quit like that and not gamble, that was straight up shameful. Ortiz was also ahead in the fight. Alexander on the other hand couldn't handle the pressure, all he could do was hold, the way he quit was shameful but unlike Ortiz, he had nothing to offer his opponent.

I hate seeing older, shot to bits, veterans who come back from long layoffs (or "retirement") trying to convince themselves they've still got it in them (and supposedly had "the best training camp", "feel better then ever before", blah blah blah).... Only to see that when things aren't working out like they spent countless hours daydreaming it would, they fold quicker then a $2 circus chair. Jose Luis Castillo against Alfonso Gomez comes to mind for me. That was down right SMDH. Nothing says "I just showed up for a paycheck", like sauntering back to my stool and quitting after round 5 because I'm down on the scorecards and don't feel like trying anymore, does. What's even sadder is, he announced after that fight that he was "definately retiring" (because by his own words he didn't have "it" anymore) but has continued to fight on after that insulting display. I mean there's quitting, and there's "Ok I showed up, now where do I pick up my check" quitting. I would rather put $10 in a can while he's standing outside of a Wendy's juggling bananas, then be insulted as a paying fan seeing him get paid for an OBVIOUSLY BLATANT "I need money and don't give a flying fvck about the sport" farce. Sadly, at that point, a relatively new fan to the sport would never have guessed that he was one of the fighters who gave us one of the most entertaining trilogies in the history of the sport (IMO). He went from fighting (and losing by controversy) to Floyd Mayweather, an amazing trilogy with Corrales etc.... to quitting on his stool against Alfonso Gomez. Quitting when you're NOT hurt???? That's the worst kind of quitting, IMO. / End rant. :davil2: He only had two fights with Corrales.

Well, obviously it's gotta be Duran. He'd beaten the guy in his last fight, and contrary to what most now think, it was still a very even fight with Leonard only up by a point or two on the cards. Fascinating too, because he clearly proved himself to have top ten ATG heart, will, determination etc in every single fight he ever had, bar that one. Something was up, we'll just never know what it was entirely. Cramps, pride, embarrassment, humiliation, frustration, all of the above...whatever it was, it brought about the end of a greats prime.

Devon "it's going to be Hagler Hearns II" Alexander Wtf! Did Alexander actually say that :rofl:

Devon "it's going to be Hagler Hearns II" Alexander

I hate seeing older, shot to bits, veterans who come back from long layoffs (or "retirement") trying to convince themselves they've still got it in them (and supposedly had "the best training camp", "feel better then ever before", blah blah blah).... Only to see that when things aren't working out like they spent countless hours daydreaming it would, they fold quicker then a $2 circus chair. Jose Luis Castillo against Alfonso Gomez comes to mind for me. That was down right SMDH. Nothing says "I just showed up for a paycheck", like sauntering back to my stool and quitting after round 5 because I'm down on the scorecards and don't feel like trying anymore, does. What's even sadder is, he announced after that fight that he was "definately retiring" (because by his own words he didn't have "it" anymore) but has continued to fight on after that insulting display. I mean there's quitting, and there's "Ok I showed up, now where do I pick up my check" quitting. I would rather put $10 in a can while he's standing outside of a Wendy's juggling bananas, then be insulted as a paying fan seeing him get paid for an OBVIOUSLY BLATANT "I need money and don't give a flying fvck about the sport" farce. Sadly, at that point, a relatively new fan to the sport would never have guessed that he was a fighter who gave us some of the most entertaining fights in the sport (IMO). He went from fighting (and losing by controversy) to Floyd Mayweather, 2 amazing fights with Corrales etc.... to quitting on his stool against Alfonso Gomez. Quitting when you're NOT hurt???? That's the worst kind of quitting, IMO. / End rant. :davil2:

Tyson vs McBride, can't believe he quit against this bum, he should have thrown everything at him in the first and if he couldn't stop him at least go out trying to win. Golota quit against Tyson. Duran no mas, although he went 15 rounds with Hagler after. Liston quiting was weird, who knows why he really quit? Bhop vs Jones 2, I wish someone would have quit.