Not that I'm super hyped for Guerrero or in love with this fight, but it's far better right now than Canelo. Guerrero has at least beaten Casamayor and Katsidis at 135, as well as 2 top 10 WW's in Aydin and Berto. Who has Canelo beaten???
I don't want to see Floyd-Canelo until Canelo beats a Trout, Molina, Lara/Vanes, or even a Kirkland or Angulo at least. He needs to get a legit win first.
I mean Floyd-Guerrero doesn't really do anything for Floyd at the moment, other than it's a solid win over top ranked WW. It's a legit fight, against a top ranked fighter, just not a huge fight. Let Canelo beat Trout, than Floyd-Canelo will be a huge fight to make and a legit one finally.
If anyone else fought the #3 ranked fighter in their weight class, it'd be seen as legit. But because it's Mayweather, it's supposedly not a legit fight.
These were Floyd's 2 realistic options for May, and Guerrero has done more and won some legit fights. He deserves the fight.
If you want statistics and resume what 23 year old has that? I go by what i see in the ring in regards to punching power, ring tactics, relexes, and overall athletic ability. I think that is perfectly articulate! Watch! Canelo gets a couple wins against top nothc fighter and people like you will just come up with another excuse this is not my first time around the block on this messsage board. This is and always will be hating on the kids popularity and the fact that nobody gives a fuk about whatever obscure fighter you cheer for.
So at the end of the day, you're saying Canelo has the potential to be great. You have still yet to answer, what did Canelo do so far, that makes him great? We may sound impatient and whatever to you, but that is how you determine greatness. By what a fighter has done. Not what he might do in the future. So with that said, I ask, what makes Canelo so great?
The test of boxing ability is when you fight guys stronger/faster/bigger than you, threatening guys, how do you cope. Teeing off on much smaller and/or washed up guys really shows nothing about his boxing ability
You same clowns ****ted all over Berto as being overrated, fighting smaller guys, and losing to Ortiz. Now that Guerrero has beaten Berto, Berto has turned into this killer when he has been exposed twice as a guy who can't fight inside. You use the name of Berto when it fits, but when it doesn't...you **** on him. FOH with that.
I guess you haven't heard the news, they DID fight each other and then Guerrero went on to beat the hell out of Berto. So, people fell that he deserves the shot now. They're not arguing about last year or whatever fantasyland you're talking about.STFU, lmao. Your dumb ass hasn't got a clue wtf we're talking about. Go wake Pacquiao up mother****er, lol.
It's shabby dude, it's one of the worst for any champ in boxing. Most of those other weak champs are overseas guys that nobody cares to fight cause they bring no money or tv exposure. All top SWWs are lining up to fight this guy, so far don't apply if you're not a welter. Would anyone be shocked if it's Maidana next?He's 22 years old. The tests are coming. Everyone can't be Salvador Sanchez by the age of 23.
LMFAO at Canelo being more skilled then Guerrero.....HAHAHAHA
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Sadly this thread shows your how PATHETIC some boxing fans have become, they are now wrapped up into the hype, forget what goes on the ring, forget about earning things and fighters proven themselves, they would much rather be TOLD what or who is good by the promoters and networks
I am literally laughing at the hype for Canelo's Power but yet in his Last Fight in seen a fukin Light Welterweight get up 3 Times from his so called "POWER"
So no question not only is Guerrero more Proven and more battled tested but he is also way more versitile of a boxer in the ring...Sure Canelo looks faster when a guy is standing right in front of him, sure he can get off combos when a guy is standing right in front of him! If Canelo want respect then EARN IT! Sorry I can't give it to you because Oscar De La Hoya tells me your "THE NEXT BE THING" but yet when I see him in the ring, I am just not all that impressed, even against Weaker Competition...now if he man up and fight Trout, Lara, Molina, Vanes then yeah he will get his respect because to be honest that is what he should have been doing while waiting for Mayweather and in return that would have made him a better fighter and more prepare for Mayweather
Amen. I am genuinely surprised myself at the more reasonable posters saying ginger is more skilled than the Ghost.
He isn't faster.
He isn't smarter.
He is less athletic.
He is less proven.
The only advantage that ginger has over the Ghost is his size. But quite frankly the beating the Ghost gave Berto showed more about the ghost than any of gingers 41 fights combined.
LMFAO at Canelo being more skilled then Guerrero.....HAHAHAHA
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Sadly this thread shows your how PATHETIC some boxing fans have become, they are now wrapped up into the hype, forget what goes on the ring, forget about earning things and fighters proven themselves, they would much rather be TOLD what or who is good by the promoters and networks
I am literally laughing at the hype for Canelo's Power but yet in his Last Fight in seen a fukin Light Welterweight get up 3 Times from his so called "POWER"
So no question not only is Guerrero more Proven and more battled tested but he is also way more versitile of a boxer in the ring...Sure Canelo looks faster when a guy is standing right in front of him, sure he can get off combos when a guy is standing right in front of him! If Canelo want respect then EARN IT! Sorry I can't give it to you because Oscar De La Hoya tells me your "THE NEXT BE THING" but yet when I see him in the ring, I am just not all that impressed, even against Weaker Competition...now if he man up and fight Trout, Lara, Molina, Vanes then yeah he will get his respect because to be honest that is what he should have been doing while waiting for Mayweather and in return that would have made him a better fighter and more prepared for Mayweather
Anything Robert can do Canelo does it three times better and he is way more athletic. Forget the resume this isn't fuking job application.
It's a lot easier to look good against sub par opposition, especially if those guys are a few weight classes below.
We agree at least half the time, with some very big exceptions, no need to rehash.
We're almost on the same page here. While Guerrero is far more proven and better p4p, fights aren't fought p4p. And h2h I think Canelo is more of a threat than Guerrero, as he should be vs a guy that started at 126. As impressive as Guerrero was against Berto, IMO he underwhelmed against Aydin, who is fringe and very small at welter. I think Canelo runs through Rob and his opponents h2h, but I'd rather not have him rewarded for such craven matchmaking.
Well, I have to give the Ghost a pass for the Ayudin fight. Especially concerning the rumors around his strength & the fact that the Ghost was coming off a near 2 year layoff & 2 weightclass jump.
Personally I don't even think ginger has that much of a size advantage over Floyd considering he's not much taller than 5-7. Granted ginger's been at 154 for a few years now, still the fact remains he's done nothing against the 154lbers in the division. So therefore there is no way to tell how he'll actually perform against a real 154lb fighter.
Furthermore I think even Angulo would stop him should they fight. If we're being honest every shot fighter, old man & jr welterweight laid leather on ginger, what would happen if & when someone with Angulo's proven power, a real 154lb fighter connects on that virgin chin??
Do you really believe Floyd is fighting twice in 4 months?
I do, yes.
I think they have a clear plan which is Guererro in May and Canelo in September.
I think everyone involved knows this is the plan.
I dont want to see either. Would rather floyd fight bradley, manny coming of a ko or even alexander. If I had to choose probably canelo. I might go to an ALE house to see floyd- alvarez but sure as hell wont pay for it. If its the ghost I'll catch it a week later on hbo.
But he is great..at beating tomatoe cans and 40yr old's and JW's..he looks like a monter..you see him againts Baldomir..wow..truly amazing..LOL!!
i remember him being rocked and staggered by cotto's brother
also embarrassing to hear people say he's "great". listening to his fans one would think he's a world beater
But he is great..at beating tomatoe cans and 40yr old's and JW's..he looks like a monter..you see him againts Baldomir..wow..truly amazing..LOL!!
It's embarrassing to hear people say that Alvarez has more skill than Guerrero. If he does, he has sure as hell never shown it.
also embarrassing to hear people say he's "great". listening to his fans one would think he's a world beater
If Canelo and PBF does happen instead of Guerrero..I would love to see how people will say that Canelo was to young..people need to realize that Canelo has not fought anyone as good as PBF. Anyone can look good againts a tomatoe can. Canelo wont know what to do when he cant land flush and keeps getting countered..PBF might even straight knock him out, Canelo dont have any type of head movement..or foot work.
the canelo hype in this thread is hilarious. beating down junior welters, welters, and washed up fighters makes him "Great" and "Deserving" of a floyd fight. ginger don't deserve shit, his ability to sell tickets is the ONLY reason he is in the floyd sweepstakes, it sure as hell aint his resume
It's embarrassing to hear people say that Alvarez has more skill than Guerrero. If he does, he has sure as hell never shown it.
Canelo is bigger stronger and more gifted than the ghost. Canelo has more weapons in his arsenal than the ghost. As for people saying why won't he fight trout well his opponent hasn't even been mentioned yet. There were article saying that he would fight trout but wanted mayweather
Alvarez's only chance against Mayweather, literally his only chance, is that Mayweather is old and Alvarez can stop him with a good shot. That may be more of a chance than Guerrero, but not by much. At least Guerrero can go into this fight with more than one plan to try out and for Mayweather to deal with.
I'd rather see Guerrero, the better and more versatile fighter, who has won on a high level for years and earned the shot, get a Mayweather fight.
the canelo hype in this thread is hilarious. beating down junior welters, welters, and washed up fighters makes him "Great" and "Deserving" of a floyd fight. ginger don't deserve shit, his ability to sell tickets is the ONLY reason he is in the floyd sweepstakes, it sure as hell aint his resume