Alex Ariza "Manny Pacquiao Did No Strength & Conditioning Training." (AUDIO)

Ariza is a douchebag, and I'm not convinced either Pac or Marquez is clean, but if Pac didn't use a modern strength and conditioning program, then Ariza is correct. Sports science has improved massively, and some sports have been slow to get on board, especially boxing. You look at the way any pro athlete trains, and it's totally different than it was twenty years ago. NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL or whatever. The best athletes are training harder than everyone else and using the most modern and researched techniques. Pac may not have won, but it would have given him a better chance. In my opinion, Pac was getting tired when he went for the kill. He was recoiling his punches slower and was holding his hands lower. He went in for the kill with his left hand low, throwing a lazy jab. In any sport, you make mistakes when you're tired. So it was lights out and goodnight for Pac. He's not a particularly smart fighter. He's always won on his athleticism, but he's getting older and conditioning becomes more and more important.

So do you believe the lack of strength and conditioning affected pac negatively?? And like I said in my earlier post the whole "pac looked great" thing was in comparison to the non-efforts and lack of determination pac had been showcasing since knocking out cotto. jmm is eating a lot of leather himself.. yes pc looked great on landing it, but the snap were not there. i am surprised how jmm just shake it and gave his own.. its a complete role reversal of the previous 36 rounds.. i believe with the accuracy pac had on this last fight + the snap of his punches on the cotto fight would have given him the victory.. that monster right hand he landed on round 5 was the only blow that rocked jmm.. his patented straight left seems to lost its "impact".

all this "Pac looked great" thing is being a bit overblown....Marquez was pretty much allowing him to do a lot by loading up on his punches so much...If you look at their faces when they trade, Pac looks in discomfort almost everytime JMM lands, JMM has always been prone to eat a lot of taps on the outside while waiting for his opportunity to strike(usually jabs)...JMM himself says the straight lefts that landed before the 5th round were pretty much taps....and the punch that really hurt him was the right Pac landed in the fifth, not the left that dropped him(aided by a feet collision). Manny looked very fluid, but his strenght was definitely not bothering Marquez that much until the right in the fifth...and more than ever, Marquez seemed to hurt Pacquiao with every power shot. So do you believe the lack of strength and conditioning affected pac negatively?? And like I said in my earlier post the whole "pac looked great" thing was in comparison to the non-efforts and lack of determination pac had been showcasing since knocking out cotto.

all this "Pac looked great" thing is being a bit overblown....Marquez was pretty much allowing him to do a lot by loading up on his punches so much...If you look at their faces when they trade, Pac looks in discomfort almost everytime JMM lands, JMM has always been prone to eat a lot of taps on the outside while waiting for his opportunity to strike(usually jabs)...JMM himself says the straight lefts that landed before the 5th round were pretty much taps....and the punch that really hurt him was the right Pac landed in the fifth, not the left that dropped him(aided by a feet collision). Manny looked very fluid, but his strenght was definitely not bothering Marquez that much until the right in the fifth...and more than ever, Marquez seemed to hurt Pacquiao with every power shot.

It's not like Pac gassed out, he got KTFO..

you thought he looked great? he turned it on a few times, and still had the speed, but he got hurt and badly rocked when marquez landed the first punch that dropped him. that was a shot he used to eat up in his prime. i don't think he looked great at all. i think manny has been slowing down for a while now. When do you consider pac's prime??? And although I also thought that was the best pac performance since the cotto fight and that marquez's ko was well deserved....to say that strength and conditioning has no positive effect on punch resistance is to be a fool. Between lightweight and his welerweight domination we saw pac follow an unprecedented leg and core conditioning program which gave him the speed, explosiveness, power, and ability to take shots from much bigger men. So ariza is right when he says not following through affects him. However I think he hasnt been following through with ariza's program because pac's priorities have shifted from boxing to politics. I personally think pac hasnt been hungry since the cotto fight.

So Asian Hatton basically forgot to Roid up and paid the price with a nice long nap. Seems like people need to stop making up excuses for Plankiao and realize that it was his own damn fault he got cracked like a pistachio.

Manny needed that dreaded extra chin muscle and maybe he could have weathered that shot. On the real though, he looked in pretty good condition plus he seemed to be throwing just fine in terms of amount of punches thrown and their quality, he got out of position which isn't new and he got made to really pay the price which is new but that is more of a boxing related issue than S&C related issue. A knockout could be caused by a lack of proper conditioning but that certainly isn't what went down in that fright as Manny was still in fine form when he got caught. Also his neck looked pretty good, that is really the only thing you can do to strengthen punch resistance, maybe looks were deceiving but how much time were they really going to devote to neck exercises~ was his ability to take a punch the main goal of the camp because that is what it would have taken to really improve that but all I remember them talking about was getting Manny more aggressive which is exactly what they got.

Doesn't matter... his KO loss had nothing to do with it. If anythign Pac actually looked great. He made a wrong move, and got clipped. No amount of strength and conditioning would of made him NOT get knocked out from that punch. you thought he looked great? he turned it on a few times, and still had the speed, but he got hurt and badly rocked when marquez landed the first punch that dropped him. that was a shot he used to eat up in his prime. i don't think he looked great at all. i think manny has been slowing down for a while now.

Doesn't matter... his KO loss had nothing to do with it. If anythign Pac actually looked great. He made a wrong move, and got clipped. No amount of strength and conditioning would of made him NOT get knocked out from that punch.

NO Strength and Conditioning? Hey Alex, If Pacquiao did no strength and conditioning, what was your purpose in his camp? One thing should be clear by now. Marquez and his people know that no matter what happens when fighting Pacquiao, Manny eventually becomes careless. When he was showing Marquez head movement and using boxing, he was troubling him. As soon as Pacquiao got careless, Marquez timed him and that was the end of fight.

Fitness plays just as big a part in boxing as technique, Pacquiao looked superb up untill round 6 where the onslaught in round 5 slowed him down and made him tired, causing him to get sloppy, Getting tired against a counter puncher is like bringing a knife to a gun fight lol

You dont have to do any strength and conditioning when you get the magic pill and the shot in your ass

Good cause he looked better than he has since Hatton. He got caught. Strength training sure doesn't help that.... Now please recuse yourself from future training camps.

nothing but an excuse. typical crap after a pac fight

I guess this is the excuse now? lol. Marquez KO'd pac, it's done, finito, let it go. IMO, they're making up this excuse just to hype a 5th fight, which is pretty pathetic. Pac got KTFO'd, end of story. Shit happens. Any amount of Strength & Conditioning & PEDs would not have saved Pac from that brutal KO. Being off balance and falling face first into Marquez's full forced flush punch, would have KO'd ANYONE especially when all the force was being absorbed by your neck. It was an exciting fight and let us fight fans be happy that Manny is ok.

So, everyone should expected a strength and conditioning enhanced Pacman for his next fight with Marquez. And if Pac gets KO'd again the excuse will be: "He didn't use heavier weights for his chin."

ariza is one of the more laughable professionals on the planet. the guy has zero class. he has the mind of a child. this is just a way of throwing manny under the bus and relieving himself of blame. the guy is a fool. FREDDIE ROACH said that S and C coaches are the guys bringing PED's into boxing. i believe him. I think he is throwing Roach under the bus. I think it's pretty obvious that there is some kind of conflict in the WildCard gym between trainers and S&C coaches. You could tell in the interviews where Ariza was pumping up Heredia, he was trying to push S&C rather then the traditional boxing training. And the fact that they had 3 fights with Marquez, Ariza wanted to be the guy who pushes his type of training so he could be the guy who finally gave Pacquiao the win.

ariza is one of the more laughable professionals on the planet. the guy has zero class. he has the mind of a child. this is just a way of throwing manny under the bus and relieving himself of blame. the guy is a fool. FREDDIE ROACH said that S and C coaches are the guys bringing PED's into boxing. i believe him.

*waiting for puga and his opinion*