so Marquez gets one punch KTFO power at nearly 40..

you're mistaken mate. usually he hits pacquiao with pure counters but this was really clever trap setting. you trick a boxer into seeing certain looks from you and then they move their hands to block those looks by reflex. the first knockdown was all about that - go watch the round again, marquez set him up with the body all round and then on the slow mo you can see pac instinctively moving his left hand DOWN, all to stop that same body shot. but marquez gave him a different look - a huge effort to the face, look at the arc off his arm and look at how close he was to pacquiaos glove - the timing on that shot was to the millisecond. the actual knockout wasn't like that though - it was a different type of trick. if you listen to marquez interview after the fight he even breaks it down for you... they knew manny had something to prove. that he would try for the big KO. So when manny landed something of significance in the sixth marquez started moving away, stopped countering for a little while, invited manny to take risks. it was all about getting him in the perfect position for a counter - a position he would never normally adopt. how often in these fights have you seen pacquiao rushing his face forward in that sort of area around an opponents body? never. the combination of having a point to prove and thinking he had a chance of a series defining ko, something to quiet the doubters and prove his "greatness", all this led to him being completely careless. as a fan of boxing both of those punches were things of beauty. marquez said the advantage he had was that he was smarter than pacquiao and my word did he prove it. I guess we'll have to disagree for the time being....saying all these nuances of subtle moves by Marquez doesn't dismiss the explosive power he showed last night...it was too much..i've seen him hit pacquiao a bunch of times while pacquiao was going in there guns blazing...(look at the second fight)...and Pacquiao was never hurt that badly before...never..

What are u talking about...the first....that was the same combo Marquez ALWAYS hits pacquiao..even the prior fight.....yeah..pacquioa might have doubled the impact by running into the shot...but Marquez certainly has been taking some supplements with memo...he has never hurt manny like that before. you're mistaken mate. usually he hits pacquiao with pure counters but this was really clever trap setting. you trick a boxer into seeing certain looks from you and then they move their hands to block those looks by reflex. the first knockdown was all about that - go watch the round again, marquez set him up with the body all round and then on the slow mo you can see pac instinctively moving his left hand DOWN, all to stop that same body shot. but marquez gave him a different look - a huge effort to the face, look at the arc off his arm and look at how close he was to pacquiaos glove - the timing on that shot was to the millisecond. the actual knockout wasn't like that though - it was a different type of trick. if you listen to marquez interview after the fight he even breaks it down for you... they knew manny had something to prove. that he would try for the big KO. So when manny landed something of significance in the sixth marquez started moving away, stopped countering for a little while, invited manny to take risks. it was all about getting him in the perfect position for a counter - a position he would never normally adopt. how often in these fights have you seen pacquiao rushing his face forward in that sort of area around an opponents body? never. the combination of having a point to prove and thinking he had a chance of a series defining ko, something to quiet the doubters and prove his "greatness", all this led to him being completely careless. as a fan of boxing both of those punches were things of beauty. marquez said the advantage he had was that he was smarter than pacquiao and my word did he prove it.

Are people seriously this retarded. PED's do not give you steel fists. The only way a PED could help you with power is my helping you gain more fast twitch muscles for a faster more explosive punch. Power comes from technique and speed. We all know Marquez didn't look particularly fast in that fight but look at his technique, he was sitting down on his punches and really putting power behind them. QFT. I'm a Pac fan and am sad about the loss but I've been trying to spread this message about power for years. It's nice to see that some people know how it works.

not saying he cheated whatsoever cause he was clearly looking for that shot the entire fight and then add Pacs momentum coming forward and you have a highlight reel knockout But just imagine if Marquez failed a drug test, that would be devastating for our sport. People should be praying he was clean for our sake. I sure hope he was but having a known cheater on your team will always add that doubt. Pac went through it and now we'll see how people treat Marquez I kinda hope they do. It took baseball getting caught badly to finally clean up it's sport. I think it's time boxing do the same.

Do you hear yourself? You said Pacman was already going back still Marquez has that much power? You are an idiot. Look at the replay. Yea Manny was moving back and got hit on the chin. When you are moving back you are bound to fall on your ass. Hear myself..i'm typing dummy..he was going back away from Marquez power...reducing by distancing himself....the marquez shot shouldn't have had that much power...given that marquez has hit manny with that same combo before.

Lol you people are idiots! It wasn't power! It was well timed shots! IDIOTS! TIMING BEATS SPEED!

Yall forgot about this http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hP6RILg8cws/TiJTeQqQUFI/AAAAAAAAD_k/WRIpap2wo6A/s1600/2.gif

It was perfect accuracy not atg power

are you for real? it wasn't abnormal power... marquez landed two perfect punches. the first one he set him up all round with body shots at the end of the short combo, you can actually see on the slowmo that pac moves his arm down to cover that body shot so imagine the surprise when a big overhand loop comes straight to the face. and then in the sixth marquez was playing possum, manny thought he could get the ko and started taking huge risks and somehow ended up moving his head straight into the perfect position for an absolute monster shot from marquez. with the momentum from pac and the fact he was literally on the sweet spot, combined with all that shoulder work marquez had done which you could see in the weigh in, it was literally boxing at its finest. lured him into the trap... and then goodnight. What are u talking about...the first....that was the same combo Marquez ALWAYS hits pacquiao..even the prior fight.....yeah..pacquioa might have doubled the impact by running into the shot...but Marquez certainly has been taking some supplements with memo...he has never hurt manny like that before.

I was highly suspicious before the fight and bet on JMM to win and the power he had only confirms the suspicions in my mind. Team Pac got beaten at their own game by only using the Las Vegas commissions' testing. JMM is innocent until proven otherwise

That power Marquez that night.........was ABNORMAL.......i don't care if you say you ran into a punch but that was absurd power.........in the last knockdown Pacquiao was already going back and still Marquez had that much power? Ridiculous. are you for real? it wasn't abnormal power... marquez landed two perfect punches. the first one he set him up all round with body shots at the end of the short combo, you can actually see on the slowmo that pac moves his arm down to cover that body shot so imagine the surprise when a big overhand loop comes straight to the face. and then in the sixth marquez was playing possum, manny thought he could get the ko and started taking huge risks and somehow ended up moving his head straight into the perfect position for an absolute monster shot from marquez. with the momentum from pac and the fact he was literally on the sweet spot, combined with all that shoulder work marquez had done which you could see in the weigh in, it was literally boxing at its finest. lured him into the trap... and then goodnight.

not saying he cheated whatsoever cause he was clearly looking for that shot the entire fight and then add Pacs momentum coming forward and you have a highlight reel knockout But just imagine if Marquez failed a drug test, that would be devastating for our sport. People should be praying he was clean for our sake. I sure hope he was but having a known cheater on your team will always add that doubt. Pac went through it and now we'll see how people treat Marquez

The 1st knockdown was a lot more suspicious than the KTFO. Where was that power the 1st three fights?

Marquez at 40 suddenly looks 10 times as strong as he EVER has, knocks out a apponent he have never come even close to knocking out, not just knock out but knocked into another dimension. If there ever was a time to be suspect it should be now

Imminent robbery in his mind gave him extra power.

That power Marquez that night.........was ABNORMAL.......i don't care if you say you ran into a punch but that was absurd power.........in the last knockdown Pacquiao was already going back and still Marquez had that much power? Ridiculous. Do you hear yourself? You said Pacman was already going back still Marquez has that much power? You are an idiot. Look at the replay. Yea Manny was moving back and got hit on the chin. When you are moving back you are bound to fall on your ass.

but that was KTFO one punch hatton'd power... He's KTFOed someone before with one shot I believe. It was on ESPN back in the day.

Are people seriously this retarded. PED's do not give you steel fists. The only way a PED could help you with power is my helping you gain more fast twitch muscles for a faster more explosive punch. Power comes from technique and speed. We all know Marquez didn't look particularly fast in that fight but look at his technique, he was sitting down on his punches and really putting power behind them. Yup, Pacquiao didn't see it coming and was lunging right into it. It was a great shot by Marquez.

PED's? That was all CLEAN PUNCHING and countering. Pacman didn't see the punch coming, and Marquez has been training hard and not partying. Pacman was eating right hands all day and his aggressive style backfired on him. It gave Marquez more chances to KO him and he did. Marquez always had power.

That power Marquez that night.........was ABNORMAL.......i don't care if you say you ran into a punch but that was absurd power.........in the last knockdown Pacquiao was already going back and still Marquez had that much power? Ridiculous.