Angel "Memo" Guillermo Heredia Hernandez - 'MARQUEZ looks bigger than PACQUIAO'

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The only way to tell if these two are juicing is to test both of them. JMM said he would be willing to....what about Pacquaio?

listen anyone who does not see that he is clearly on some type of ped is just plain stupid or blind i myself have run numerous cycles and can tell u that i am 100% sure he is on somthing what exactly i dont know , like angel herdia said he can make u any type of untraceable ped u want for 100k the stuff ive taken was a couple hundred bucks lol it makes you look good i.e his viens ,traps ,abs but did not help me in the ring ,but for 100k i would imagine it does

Whether its proven or not that Marquez was doing something illegal to enhance his physique only time will tell. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt. Marquez is top three when it comes to discipline in taking care of his body. He right there with Mayweather and Hopkins. These guys aren't beating up their bodies like say Chavez jr who has to drop probably 50 pounds to get in shape. He said they prepared for about 4 months, and for someone who takes care of his body all year round I could see how you could get the weigh in result through hard work. Like I said, only time will tell.

lol your acting like a professional conditioning coach informing everyone. Veins aren't "mainly a product of low BF" there are plenty of supplements that yoke up your veins. Generally when you get stronger and have better endurance, your veins increase in size to push more blood to your muscles. If you have ever seen anyone start taking the juice their veins will most definitely increase in size. Veins will also increase in size by hard work and even pre workout supplements. I remember when no explode came out (Pacquiao used to use) i was able to workout really hard until it wore off after 2 weeks, but my veins permanently grew. you must be really sensitive if no explode works on you that stuff is junk never work on me

Please no excuses after the fight

Vascularity is mainly a product of low bodyfat. Steroids not necessarily required although, like with everything else, I'm sure they can help. lol your acting like a professional conditioning coach informing everyone. Veins aren't "mainly a product of low BF" there are plenty of supplements that yoke up your veins. Generally when you get stronger and have better endurance, your veins increase in size to push more blood to your muscles. If you have ever seen anyone start taking the juice their veins will most definitely increase in size. Veins will also increase in size by hard work and even pre workout supplements. I remember when no explode came out (Pacquiao used to use) i was able to workout really hard until it wore off after 2 weeks, but my veins permanently grew.

Hernandez: 'Marquez looks bigger than Pacquiao' by Lem Satterfield ******.com: Is there anything to speculation that Marquez still was cutting weight during the course of this week? AH: We have been, during the course of our whole training period, at about 143. The only time that we got heavy was at about 144, 144.5, and that was like two weeks ago. So we didn't sacrifice any body weight, and we didn't sacrifice anything. All that we had to do was train and adapt his muscles so that he could be more dynamic and explosive, and be able to perform more quickly. And the only way to be able to do that is that you have to be able to understand that one pound of fat is the same as one pound of muscle. The only thing that changes is the volume. So a lot of people might look very big. I don't know if you were able to compare Pacquiao with Marquez on the stage, but Marquez looks very good. Marquez looks bigger than Pacquiao, but if you can see, his stomach muscles are very small, but he's very, very defined. He's very defined, but we work it that way. http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/10/76/76/2355076/7/628x471.jpg Marquez looks bigger cause most of Manny weight is in his legs and head

I do believe Marquez physique could be achieved through hard work and i dont think he's head got bigger like everyone says hes just loosing hair on the sides i think, but i was suspicious of those Stallone like new veins i haven't seen those before under hes arms maybe Im wrong but we all know what that can be a sign of either roiding or extreme conditioning, i believe is hard work, hes never been dirty before but time will tell. http://www.boxingscene.com/uploads/60203/Pacquiao_Marquez_weighin_121207_005a.jpg Vascularity is mainly a product of low bodyfat. Steroids not necessarily required although, like with everything else, I'm sure they can help.

I do believe Marquez physique could be achieved through hard work and i dont think he's head got bigger like everyone says hes just loosing hair on the sides i think, but i was suspicious of those Stallone like new veins i haven't seen those before under hes arms maybe Im wrong but we all know what that can be a sign of either roiding or extreme conditioning, i believe is hard work, hes never been dirty before but time will tell. http://www.boxingscene.com/uploads/60203/Pacquiao_Marquez_weighin_121207_005a.jpg

If you wanna be in denial be my guest but you don't need to give me lessons on physiques. I know exactly what I'm looking at mate. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android So you totally discount the possibility that JMM could have gotten the same physique without PEDs? That's what I hate about the accusers on both sides. They refuse to even acknowledge the possibility a person, of any age, can get in shape with hard work and adhering to a strict diet. Hard work and proper nutrition can be just as effective as taking PEDs and going to the gym every other day.

Both most likely. The best PEDs will win this fight. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for AndroidThat's why Victor Conte said that they should call this fight "Chemical Warfare 2".

Ok so Im confused. which one of them is juiced to the Gills? First it was Marquez Then it was Manny Now its Marquez. are they both juiced up for this fight? Both most likely. The best PEDs will win this fight. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

I don't think you do mate if you think it's impossible to look bigger while being a bit lighter. And in any case, if you're directly comparing Pacquiao and Marquez you have to take into account that Manny has legs like tree trunks. I'm not saying there's no way Marquez has been utilising PEDs, there's a good chance he has given who his S&C coach is. But you can't just throw out any old horseshit and call it proof of PEDs. He's had tree trunks since he first came to the states....

Sorry I called him by his old name which he doesn't use since he snitched on the other dopers in court to protect himself from prosecution. The guy does not belong no where near any fighters or sport for that matter.

Heredia worked with Marion Jones who was doping but was not found under Olympic style testing for years winning multiple medals. Now Marquez looks the most muscular than he ever has in his career under his guidance....doesn't take much of thinking on that one

If you wanna be in denial be my guest but you don't need to give me lessons on physiques. I know exactly what I'm looking at mate. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android I don't think you do mate if you think it's impossible to look bigger while being a bit lighter. And in any case, if you're directly comparing Pacquiao and Marquez you have to take into account that Manny has legs like tree trunks. I'm not saying there's no way Marquez has been utilising PEDs, there's a good chance he has given who his S&C coach is. But you can't just throw out any old horseshit and call it proof of PEDs.

Ok so Im confused. which one of them is juiced to the Gills? First it was Marquez Then it was Manny Now its Marquez. are they both juiced up for this fight?

Quote: Originally Posted by jsfd26 Marquez is lighter yet looks bigger . PEDs do wonders. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android That's not PEDs mate, that's just how you look with a slightly lower bodyfat ratio. If you wanna be in denial be my guest but you don't need to give me lessons on physiques. I know exactly what I'm looking at mate. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

I'm not sure if I follow what's being said by Heredia here. Is he explaining the consistency in Marquez' weight, in other words that his body has been reconstituted (far to muscle) instead of getting heavier or lighter? If he is, then the only problem with that is that it's quite difficult to simultaneously lose fat and gain muscle, especially for guy who's 38/39. You can do it, but it takes a lot longer to gain muscle mass, and bulk/cut cycles are probably preferable. Yes, it is tough but that was the point of having Angel Heredia in his corner. Without this guy I believe Marquez would have less of a chance against Pacquiao. Warquez by UD.