Do casual fans even post on boxing forums though? That's the scary part about this. But yeah, I suspect there's some slight trolling involved in the voting.
Casual may have been the wrong word. More like diehard fans of a fighter (pac for instance) who dont really know anything about the sport.
Many fans are casual, have casual knowledge about boxing, and are heat of the moment types.
Do casual fans even post on boxing forums though? That's the scary part about this. But yeah, I suspect there's some slight trolling involved in the voting.
Out of 98 votes, the median vote is 40% and the average vote calculates out to be 48%. Funny how Chavez vs Martinez essentially become a 50/50 fight. How the hell did this happen? People would have laughed at this a few months ago.
Many fans are casual, have casual knowledge about boxing, and are heat of the moment types.
Out of 98 votes, the median vote is 40% and the average vote calculates out to be 48%. Funny how Chavez vs Martinez essentially become a 50/50 fight. How the hell did this happen? People would have laughed at this a few months ago.
Also the ring size would obviously be very important in this fight. I have a sick feeling that Jr gets everything he wants in this fight & Martinez is gonna have to give into his demands just to get the fight.
Ya, ringsize would play a big factor. But with that said, even if it was as big...(more like small)....as last night, martinez could work with it. I believe martinez has the power, boxing skills, and slickness to contend with chavez, but most of all i see martinez' footwork frustrating chavez all night, eventually wearing down chavez' dehydrated body and setting up the late ko.
at best i give chavez a 25 percent chance of winning, based on being the way bigger guy, a hard puncher who loves going to the body with a decent, maybe good, chin to boot.
Also the ring size would obviously be very important in this fight. I have a sick feeling that Jr gets everything he wants in this fight & Martinez is gonna have to give into his demands just to get the fight.
I'll give him a 50% chance of beating Martinez now. The key to beating Martinez is cutting off the ring and taking away his legs. This is where all his power is generated from; The awkward angles and what have you. He will have to fight Sergio in close and trap him along the ropes and corners, if he has any legitimate chance of winning. Chavez cannot afford to follow a dangerous puncher as Martinez around the ring because he may just run into a punch he doesn't see and get KO.
I always thought Chavez best attributes were his chin and he prove it yesterday, saying that he is not a one KO puncher kind of fighter and his biggest strength at MM is his size, he looked very good against Lee and ate some good shots in the process, Martinez ain't Lee and the speed will make the difference, Congratulations to Chavez but I think he will move up in weight before facing SM.
Surely they tested him last night?
he couldnt provide a urine sample before the fight bcuz he was too dehydrated. he must have provided one after the fight though, even in texas they couldnt be that incompetent not to test him at all.
they have the right to keep him in the arena until he manages to piss in a cup so i hope they enforced that right.
I just want him to get TESTED FFS.
Pacquiao dodges OSDT but at least he takes the damn commission tests, this Chavez Jr dude DODGES ALL DRUG TESTS.
It's honestly pathetic.
Surely they tested him last night?
I honestly have felt for some time like Chavez has a good chance, a damn good chance against Martinez. 50/50 fight. That's why I couldn't understand him ducking so cold. Good to see him acting like he's ready to take off the training wheels & put on his big bwoy shoes.
I think Chavez proved that his chin is on par with his father's, he took Andy Lee's best punches and Andy Lee is a HARD puncher. At 28 wins 20 of those by KO, that's a 66% KO average, and Chavez ate his punches like they were sour skittles.
Honesty, I never thought I would say this, but: Chavez Jr. beats Martinez.
He's simply too big, too strong, AND has a chin too along with those attributes. Martinez is a counter puncher who doesn't stay busy enough to keep someone like Chavez Jr. off of him. Also, Martinez is WIDE open for body shots and JC is an absolutely BEAST Body puncher like his father. Let's not forget that Macklin was even getting the better of Martinez for a little while, in fact if I remember correctly (I could be sadly mistaken) I think I even had Macklin ahead of Martinez before the 11th. Chavez wouldn't give Marty any room to breathe, and if he doesn't get an overwhelming stoppage, would surely win on points.
Just my imo, I still don't like Chavez Jr. for his questionable "don't ask me any questions" type of demeanor, but he's definitely a fun fighter to watch who earned my respect last night. Andy Lee is no SUPERSTAR, but he's a world class athlete who can give anybody a run for their money, especially someone who's perceived to be an amateur like Chavez Jr.
He's overrated.
Pitted against Cautious and or Pure Boxers or damaged/shot vets. Regardless I'm dying to see him fight JR.
Someone who won't flinch when he pauses for camera throwing left hand. That Roy Jones Jr wannabee nonsense is going to get totally Tarvered.
Yet.....he's in his late thirties and getting KO after KO, after KO. The ref will stop it when the Chumpez jr's right eye is about ready to pop out of his head.
Lee punches like a powder puff......Martinez punches like a freight train.
20%.....Same as it was before, incredible how people gave Lee a chance to beat Jr, Lee is not that good.
That said Jr. will find a way to avoid Martinez.
I think the fact that he's a HUGE middleweight who can take a hard shot AND land hard shots of his own makes him a threat and will make him a challenge. That, along with the fact that MArtinez isn't getting any younger makes it a tougher fight for Sergio. That being said, I think it'd be very very VERY dumb of him to try and walk Sergio down, because I can see Sergio just tagging him all night. So I give him a good chance, but I still think Sergio beats him handily.