Does a prime sugar ray Robinson wipe his opponents out
Jack Johnson and his love of white hoes deprecate his skills
The majority of them but he didn't wipe out all them.
There are few exercises that are more of a waste of time than talking about fantasy fights between fighters of different eras.
If one guy was in another guys era, he would have had a different trainer and learned a completely different style on the way up - not to mention have lived a different life and been a different person.
Utterly pointless conversation.
Foreman didn't listen to his trainers and just brawled and won so that argument doesn't apply.
Foremans trainer thought he threw too much arm punches.
Vitali has a great chin so I think Foreman stops him on his feet like he did Chuvalo. Referee rescues Vitali from sponging more punishment.
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Vitali has been Koed in Kickboxing
There are few exercises that are more of a waste of time than talking about fantasy fights between fighters of different eras.
If one guy was in another guys era, he would have had a different trainer and learned a completely different style on the way up - not to mention have lived a different life and been a different person.
Utterly pointless conversation.
And during his entire second career he was measured and listed as 6'4. So which one is incorrect? I'm gonna say 6'4 is correct. He is clearly taller than Ali:
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I rest my case. Not gonna debate any further about 1 inch of height.
ya Ali was 6'2 at best
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https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/90
And during his entire second career he was measured and listed as 6'4. So which one is incorrect? I'm gonna say 6'4 is correct. He is clearly taller than Ali:
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I rest my case. Not gonna debate any further about 1 inch of height.
George was 6'4(That's what he was listed in his entire second career and he clearly looked slightly taller than the legit 6'3 Muhammad Ali) and a very lean, in shape 225. He was in the 250s when he filled out in his late 30s.
Not a big difference to your stats, but still.
Also George had a 79inch reach compared to Vitali's 80, Wlad's 81, Lennox' 84, Fury's 85.
And with his natural strength and grappling skills he would not have an issue on the inside against these guys, I'm telling you. Fury is the biggest of all can he got outgrappled by Ngannou the entire fight.
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https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/90
Lewis was 6'5, 250 lbs
George was 6'3, 220 lbs
George was 6'4(That's what he was listed in his entire second career and he clearly looked slightly taller than the legit 6'3 Muhammad Ali) and a very lean, in shape 225. He was in the 250s when he filled out in his late 30s.
Not a big difference to your stats, but still.
Also George had a 79inch reach compared to Vitali's 80, Wlad's 81, Lennox' 84, Fury's 85.
And with his natural strength and grappling skills he would not have an issue on the inside against these guys, I'm telling you. Fury is the biggest of all can he got outgrappled by Ngannou the entire fight.
Vitali would have put a hellacious beating on him
George liked to come forward and be the bully
Vitali had the better footspeed and was an expert at using his full length to make it very difficult to get close. Inside he's got 40lbs on a prime "Big George" so even when Foreman gets past Vitali jab (which he will be eating flush all night) Vitali won't find it difficult to tie him up and bully the bully.
Foreman was ****ing slow and plodding, he had big power of course but realistically I don't see a huge power gap between him and Lennox Lewis and Foreman isn't going to land anywhere near as much as Lewis but he will eat just as many punches as Lewis did if not more.
Theres a reason you don't see fighters like "big" George these days and it's because they don't go very far.
Nah, the reason you don't see guys like Foreman around these days is because:
1-The trainers who developed his early style are gone and didn't pass it down. Foreman learned a lot of very old school grappling techniques that were already almost extinct when he learned it in the 60s. The technique is lost in time and it would probably not hold up with today's refs as they would warn a guy for pushing and man handling.
2-Even if it was around today, you need a guy with a certain set of attributes and crazy genetics to make it as successful. Foreman had God given heavy hands, grappling strength, chin/durability and an innate meanness/heart warrior spirit. Those are things you can't just develop even by training hard. It has be something you're born with.
Hard to find a kid like that now. You know who has those attributes? Francis Ngannou, but it's too late for him to fully develop his boxing.
You do realize that Lewis was completely unprepared and out of shape against Vitali right? Lewis still broke his face and that was Lennox's last fight.
Lewis was 6'5, 250 lbs
George was 6'3, 220 lbs
Vitali would have put a hellacious beating on him
George liked to come forward and be the bully
Vitali had the better footspeed and was an expert at using his full length to make it very difficult to get close. Inside he's got 40lbs on a prime "Big George" so even when Foreman gets past Vitali jab (which he will be eating flush all night) Vitali won't find it difficult to tie him up and bully the bully.
Foreman was ****ing slow and plodding, he had big power of course but realistically I don't see a huge power gap between him and Lennox Lewis and Foreman isn't going to land anywhere near as much as Lewis but he will eat just as many punches as Lewis did if not more.
Theres a reason you don't see fighters like "big" George these days and it's because they don't go very far.
You do realize that Lewis was completely unprepared and out of shape against Vitali right? Lewis still broke his face and that was Lennox's last fight.
Vitali would have put a hellacious beating on him
George liked to come forward and be the bully
Vitali had the better footspeed and was an expert at using his full length to make it very difficult to get close. Inside he's got 40lbs on a prime "Big George" so even when Foreman gets past Vitali jab (which he will be eating flush all night) Vitali won't find it difficult to tie him up and bully the bully.
Foreman was fucking slow and plodding, he had big power of course but realistically I don't see a huge power gap between him and Lennox Lewis and Foreman isn't going to land anywhere near as much as Lewis but he will eat just as many punches as Lewis did if not more.
Theres a reason you don't see fighters like "big" George these days and it's because they don't go very far.
Glass jaw WLAD is not stronger. prime foreman has wins against atg hw's. Prime wlad got koed twice by bums and he has no defense. He uses his long reach and backs up to dodge punches. He gets destroyed by a prime formean.
We are matching Vit vs George.
Once Wlad became the reigning HW champ, the days of him getting KTFO came to an end.
Neither of us is going to convince the other or change our minds.
I got Vit
You got ''Big'' George.
olympic shlt is utterly meaningless.
Prime george was sloppy af.
Sry but h2h, i don't think ''big'' george could withstand a bigger stronger man.
If you mention byrd, ''big'' george fights nothing like him.
Glass jaw WLAD is not stronger. prime foreman has wins against atg hw's. Prime wlad got koed twice by bums and he has no defense. He uses his long reach and backs up to dodge punches. He gets destroyed by a prime formean.