These 2 videos clearly show that David Haye was the one who threw the first punches. Chisora stood in front of him face-to-face without the intention to start swinging and Haye suddenly throws a left hook and then a straight right to the jaw of Chisora: (go to time mark 2:20 min)- and also watch the 2nd vid below which shows it even more clearly that Haye suckerpunched Chisora
I just found another video which shows it even better:
chisora walked up to him and wanted to fight him you clown. david acted in self defense, he wasnt going to wait until chisora that piece of **** pulled the trigger.
So after 12 rds of boxing with vitali he wanted to go mma with Haye to finish the night of ,OK ay
haye would destroy chisora in the ring (and out) chisora should be on his knees begging for superior black cock
in the bum, then pull out over him? man, why you have to tell us this kinda thing?!
haye did exactly what he was suppose to do. if a guy tells me he's gonna slap me in the face then gets up, takes off his jacket and starts walking over toward me im not gonna stand there like a fukkin idiot and let him slap me especially when i know he's already slap one guy and spit in another guys face. imma start teeing off on his ass the second he gets in punching distance plain and simple. what kind of retard lets a guy walk from across the room and slap him in the face when he knows it coming ??
I wouldn't be surprised if the Comission take Haye's license off him for this.
This is clear evidence that Haye punched Chisora multiple times.
Haye was only defending himself. Obviously Chisora was gonna hit him if Haye didn't first. I don't think Haye is in the wrong here. Chisora should be banned and Haye should get only a slap on the wrist.
You clearly missed the entire connection.
So what if Chisora didn`t own that area, as far as I know gangs don`t own city property either. LOL. I fail to see how that is relevant.
Straw-man arguments always fail.
The dynamics of "gang turf" is too different from a post-fight press conference for anybody to use them as a comparison and be a respected contributor to a debate.
Just like other fighters throughout history who were hoping for a fight with the winning champion, Haye had a right to be there. He was talking to Vitali about their negotiations and Chisora butted in so he did not start "antagonizing" anybody and he responded to Chisora by giving his honest opinion on why he didn't want to fight him (having lost his last 3 fights).
Again, your argument is weak and pathetic. To continue riding it out only further damages your intellectual reputation.
So Haye should have left because he was asked to?
GTFO of here.
Chisora should have not got hit like a fool.
yes. yes he should have left after the people who's event he was at told him in no uncertain terms he wasn't welcome and should leave. of course he should.
in fact they pretty much told HIM
"GTFO of here"
so if i should listen to that in a public forum, perhaps haye should have in a private event
After seeing the facken classless sheet that chisora did to the klitchko brothers (slap and spitting) I was glad to see haye give him the one two. :****you:
Good to see chisora worked up and enraged in feeling like hayes' *****. To he did worse to the klitchko's
a sucker slap is one thing at a weigh in ....spitting in someones face is a drawn line. Respect...i got no respect for him and he his a total bum that lost 3 fights in a row. He went the distance with a 40 year old champ! What a super Star! His ability to lose is all he has. Thats why he act like he does because he knows himself he aint sh!t. No self respect or self conscience!
As you're clearly being sarcastic with that comment...what does that make your boy Pacquaio who went the distance with a 38 year old Marquez & a 40 year old Shane Mosley?
Would love a response but I doubt I'll get one lol.
The press conference is not "rival gang turf". Chisora did not own that area. Your straw-man response was utterly weak and pathetic. I just lost a lot of respect for your intellect.
You clearly missed the entire connection.
So what if Chisora didn`t own that area, as far as I know gangs don`t own city property either. LOL. I fail to see how that is relevant.
This guy from Leicester talking like he knows the streets. :lol1:
I'm not talking like I know 'the streets'. I would have thought it is obvious that Chisora has a better chin than most guys. What have I said that would imply I think I 'know the streets'. Besides, trying to downplay where a guy lives is pathetic. Someone living in Compton could easily say to someone living in Glasgow 'you think you know the streets' but it's just pathetic.
1) Until you have seen Haye on a race track against Chisora and his team your response is conjecture.
2) Somebody asking him to be taken out means nothing if security didn't attempt to do it. Obviously whoever was demanding that he be removed did not have the authority to remove Haye's right to be there.
3) I'm not your "mate". Whatever you do in the privacy of your home with other men is your business.
1) you think chisora could outrun haye? honestly? oh well, i'll not bother discussing that one any further.
2) did you not listen to the array of people telling him to leave? not just asking security to eject him. if you're asked to leave by whoever's party you're at you should leave otherwise you are obviously unwelcome and have no right to be there.
3) "ha ha". you're the one with the picture of a bodybuilder "matey" not me, i'm not the one who needs to answer questions about my orientation
Yeah I think the bottle would've reduced his power, maybe not enough distance between them to get a proper swing either. Surprised the old trainer was taking his shots though.
Well nobody got any great punches in anywhere due to things we have mentioned. When Haye punched the trainer he was moving backwards and that trainer was pretty big, thus he probably had a solid jaw. I don't think we can debate whether Haye is a hard puncher as he clearly is, but if you watch he doesn't get proper weight transferral on any of them. I guess in an adrenaline filled situation your stance and punch technique don't come to mind as much!
Well he had a bottle in his hand making his right less powerful. But also he didn't get into the proper stance for good weight transferral for the right hand while throwing the left hook. Other than that Chisora is a big dude with a hard chin unlike most people on the street.
This guy from Leicester talking like he knows the streets. :lol1:
Well he had a bottle in his hand making his right less powerful. But also he didn't get into the proper stance for good weight transferral for the right hand while throwing the left hook. Other than that Chisora is a big dude with a hard chin unlike most people on the street.
Yeah I think the bottle would've reduced his power, maybe not enough distance between them to get a proper swing either. Surprised the old trainer was taking his shots though.
so what went wrong for dave?
Well he had a bottle in his hand making his right less powerful. But also he didn't get into the proper stance for good weight transferral for the right hand while throwing the left hook. Other than that Chisora is a big dude with a hard chin unlike most people on the street.
I don't care how quick you think you are, trying to stand like a man and not flinch is not a good strategy in a street fight where you don't know who you are up against. The guy could get up in your face then nut you (you won't dodge this) or could even stab you. To prevent this you throw shots at the jaw as hard as you can. If you know how to fight the other guy shouldn't see it coming and will be sparked cold.
so what went wrong for dave?
LOL Chisora wasn't the mandatory, you can't be a mandatory after officially losing a fight. Vitali said he chose to defend his title against Chisora because he believed Chisora really beat Helenius. I'll ask again, is he an idiot for believing that?
I've had dudes try that with me but I'm quick enough to dodge the first punch and retaliate tenfold. Most people can't fight and you can see their sh!t coming from a mile away.
I don't care how quick you think you are, trying to stand like a man and not flinch is not a good strategy in a street fight where you don't know who you are up against. The guy could get up in your face then nut you (you won't dodge this) or could even stab you. To prevent this you throw shots at the jaw as hard as you can. If you know how to fight the other guy shouldn't see it coming and will be sparked cold.
According to your logic.
1. I am a member of a rival gang carrying a gun.
2. Because I am a free citizen I have the right to go anywhere I want, including the rival`s gang turf.
3. I antagonize and wait til I am confronted by rival gang members, I pull out my gun and shoot them before they could shoot me.
Do you consider that self defense as well
The press conference is not "rival gang turf". Chisora did not own that area. Your straw-man response was utterly weak and pathetic. I just lost a lot of respect for your intellect.