Tito Trinidad vs Sergio Martinez @ 154LBS

Exactly! Hey man. i coudln't leave you Green for some reason but you deserve it for this post. I don't know what's wrong with these casual fans now a days. MArtinez is over-rated. PERIOD. This shouldn't even be a poll. He's a punk who is calling out smaller fighters but won't challenge himself against bigger opponents. Let's see him himtake a fight against Ward, Froch, Dirrell, Dawson, or even Kirkland. All great fighters challenge themselves at some point.

id say its 50/50. and i say that because sergio is clumbsy. if maravillas balance was better id pick him easy but because his foot work can get sloppy tito can catch him and hurt him.

im not gonna do a woulda shoulda. martinez has the better wins above 147 and the better performances. trinidads best days were at 147. i never thought he was dominant from 154-160. it is what it is. im a tito fan dont get me wrong. but william joppy was his most impressive performance above 147, i mean call it wat u want. What's Sergio's? Kelly Pavlik? What's Pavlik's best win? Jermain Taylor right? Joppy was a better middleweight champion than Pavlik. Compare Vargas and Reid at 154 to what for Sergio? Kermit Cintron? That's his best win at 154. An undefeated Vargas, coming off wins over Winky Wright and Ike Quartey or Kermit Cintron coming off KO losses to Margarito, whom Sergio also lost to by KO at 147. You go by who they beat right and how they looked doing it....Tito beat better fighters and looked better doing it. The only real glitch is against Oscar and at 147 Oscar was a lot better than Sergio. Faster, better technique, better jab, better chin, punched harder and boxed better. Sergio has come into his own at 160 with wins over Williams, Pavlik and Dzinziruk, but that still doesn't beat what Tito did. Even beating Mayorga when he did is better than Sergio's entire 154 career. He didn't just beat Mayorga either, he broke him utterly. Certainly better than beating Bunema and Cintron. If Sergio had better defense, better jab and the ability to box and fight when needed along with his current strengths, I'd give him a big chance. He does get hit though and he gets hit consistently throughout the fight, more as it goes on because he gets tired and what technique he does have starts to crack. Against someone with the power, stamina and skill of Tito he would get hit and, for my liking, eventually knocked out. Would be a fun fight while it lasted though.

I think I'd go with a mid to later rounds KO/TKO for Tito or a solid decision. I think Martinez could put him down early, but would get rocked himself, then back off a little. It would turn into a boxing match for a bit, then Serge would get caught by a left in the mid rounds after feeling the pressure and go down. From there it would turn into a prolonged beatdown or he would just get stopped. As good as Sergio has shown himself to be, it still doesn't equal what Tito showed from 147 to 154. Sergio hasn't beaten anyone close to Tito's level, Tito has beaten fighters as good or better than Sergio. As much hype as he gets right now, and he is deserving of most of it, he isn't as good as some people make him out to be. He is far, far from the defensive genius some think him to be and actually gets hit quite often and quite easily. His movement is ok, but leaves a lot to be desired as much of it is not particularly useful. He has been hurt, knocked down numerous times and knocked out before so it's not as if he has an iron chin that would take Tito's best shot at all. This bizarre attitude of "Sergio has the skills to make Tito miss all night and just outbox him easily!" is utterly laughable. A prime Winky Wright and Hopkins at 160, not 154, is so far removed from Sergio as to be not even remotely comparable. Wright's jab alone is a thing of pure beauty and Sergio's is not even in the same ballpark. Wright could literally win a fight against a top flight champion with his jab alone! That would be impossible for Sergio. Stupid to compare the two. They fight completely different. Wright fights moving forward, behind a high guard, off the jab. Sergio fights backward, with a low guard and not behind the jab. It's not a big weapon for him at all. It's like saying Pac and Whitaker fight similar because they're both southpaws. Tito has more skill, speed and way, way more power than anyone Serge has fought and his punches are short, compact and very sneaky, meaning that he would land them on Sergio. Could be a close fight, but I think Tito has proven he could beat someone like, as good as, Sergio. Sergio hasn't.

I think Tito is too much at 154 for MArtinez... Maybe at 160.. But that left hook would put a toll on Sergio on route for a late TKO for Tito.

I had to BUMP this sh** LMAO! I was at work could not really comment but damn! How anyone can have Sergio beating Trinidad @ 154? This is retardation at it's finest and can only mean one thing. Boxing is alive and well because these fools have only been watching it for the last 3 years. Watch Margo vs Sergio add the power of one of the hardest punching fighters of all time, never backing down, and a fool who fights with his hands down and what u get? Career ending loss for Maravilla... ****ing idiots thinking speed is everything need to revisit NOVEMBER 3rd 2001 at the MGM when the fast guy got KTFO! (Zab/Tszyu) U fools know **** about boxing yet I'm the one in here getting Red K'd! LMAO. Honestly Tito would Stone Cold his as** followed by Rock Mothrfing Bottom and make him a gatekeeper.

Tito By Ko

I belive that the Tito Trinidad (vintage Fernando Vargas) vs Sergio Martinez (vintage Williams) would be a clash to watch! Who you got and why? Poll coming up! Martinez. He would get on his bike and box. His feet are too quick for Tito. IMO it's just a bad style matchup. Also Tito's best weight 147. Monster at that class. Would slap any fighter who isn't extremely mobile in the feet and technically sound at that class.

U say that as if to suggest Sergio is a better boxer than DLH??? I think so, I mean DLH was a beast, a great fighter at 130,135,140 but not that much at 147, let alone 154. If the DLH who fought Tito entered in the ring against a prime sergio at 154 I think he would lose IMO again JMO.

Sergio is no Hoya. Not to mention Sergio likes to trade....Barker, Pavlik,Williams. Who trades with Tito in his prime? And gets away with it? Yes, Sergio is a better boxer, a bigger challenge than De La High-heela without a doubt at 154. Tell me among the fighters Tito has beaten who beat Sergio? Sergio likes to trade, but not more than Oscar. If Sergio chose to box I think he outboxes Tito IMO.

Sergio by KO/TKO easy pick anybody who has Tito wining dont know crap about boxing

If Margarito put it on Martinez, just imagine if Tito did the same? No bueno for Martinez. Let's not forget when cheato fought Sergio, Sergio wasn't in his prime, Sergio started boxing at 20 years old. Dude started boxing in 1995, started his pro career in 1997 and lost to cheato in 2000. It's pretty much obvious Sergio Martinez 2010 would humiliate cheato. And who knows, maybe SOB already was loading his gloves...

I think Martinez outboxes Trinidad, Trinidad was a flat footed fighter Sergio beat him with speed and angles. If DLH could outbox Tito, sure a prime 154 Martinez can. U say that as if to suggest Sergio is a better boxer than DLH???

I belive that the Tito Trinidad (vintage Fernando Vargas) vs Sergio Martinez (vintage Williams) would be a clash to watch! Who you got and why? Poll coming up! I think Martinez outboxes Trinidad, Trinidad was a flat footed fighter Sergio beat him with speed and angles. If DLH could outbox Tito, sure a prime 154 Martinez can.

If Barker could touch Sergio up so can Tito. Tito might stop him but it all depends on how Sergio takes his punch...if he can take it he could out box and stop him late.

Really? I don't agree...most of you are talking about Sergio now....at 160. a little slower, hittable. Well, Sergio from 2 years ago......at 154 would have whooped the Tito that I saw a few years back against Roy Jones and they were nearly the same age. Sergio hardly got touched fighting 154 pound fighters at 154...even Cintron barely touched him. I never really saw him take any punches at 154, not until he moved up to 160 and he slowed slightly. You take these guys in their primes, I say Sergio gives Tito a run for his money. Martinez got hit early on in his career but you must remember that he never had the luxury of any amateur experience at all. In the last 5 years, he has been on another level. Why would you compare them when they were the same age? :thinking: Why not compare them when they were in their primes?

you seriously can not compare the old, slow, out of shape, no heart in it, fighting for the check trinidad that fought roy jones at lt. heavyweight to the trinidad that fought at 154 in his prime.

Really? I don't agree...most of you are talking about Sergio now....at 160. a little slower, hittable. Well, Sergio from 2 years ago......at 154 would have whooped the Tito that I saw a few years back against Roy Jones and they were nearly the same age. Sergio hardly got touched fighting 154 pound fighters at 154...even Cintron barely touched him. I never really saw him take any punches at 154, not until he moved up to 160 and he slowed slightly. You take these guys in their primes, I say Sergio gives Tito a run for his money. Martinez got hit early on in his career but you must remember that he never had the luxury of any amateur experience at all. In the last 5 years, he has been on another level. I totally agree with ya post,but Tito was not an easy target himself(unless we are talking about B-Hop)and Martinez aggressive style would open him up to get countered by Tito..Very hard fight to pick imo,but if I had to pick it I would have to go with Tito based on what I've seen from both of umm...

maravilla!

Hard fight to pick,but I would have to go with Tito by KO..I love Martinez,but Tito was a very skilled boxer(more skilled then giving credit for)with crazy power..I think he would wear Martinez down and stop him...