who's greater felix trinidad or juan manuel marquez

Trinidad was a more exciting fighter to watch (for me anyway)....JMM has better boxing and combination punching ability...I like both, a Draw

jmm. only thing trinidad did better was deliver harder shots.

I can't stand Tito for pu$$ying out of the sport after Hopkins and Winky, and as much as I heart JMM, I don't think this is really comparable. Tito is going down as one of the greatest Welterweights ever and has DEFEATED bet comp. Sweet Pea might have been going through things, but nobody ever put it on Sweet Pea like Tito did. Say what you will about Oscar/Tito, whether you think Tito won, got a draw, got blown out, gifted or whatever, he still won one of the sport's most lucrative fight in history against a prime and beastly Oscar. He beat down a prime Vargas, who beat a prime Winky. Vargas was a monster that was tamed by Tito. He gave Joppy his first KO loss moving up, he beat up Carr And he beat a near prime Hector Camacho, a prime Yori Boy Campas JMM is best known for not sealing the deal against Pacquaio and being the step brother of two mexican greats Sure skills favor JMM, but Trindad has put it on greater fighters (not withstanding MAB) and was/is/will be greater than JMM.

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JMM's resume: - 2 wins over Prime-Pacquiao (2nd and 3rd fights) and 1 disputable loss (1st fight) - Unlucky against prime undefeated Chris John in Malaysia - 2 wins over Juan Diaz - Win over Barrera - Wins over Gainer, Medina, Salido, Juarez. JMM has won titles at Feather, Super-Feather and Lightweight, and got robbed at Welterweight against Pacquiao. So he's a 4 weight champ. And he could become a 5 weight champ if he wins a title at 140. As far as depth in their resume it's pretty even but the wins and performances against Pacquiao means that JMM is greater IMO. Where did you get the balls to say their resumes are even? Felix defended his welterweight belt twice the number of times Marquez defended his belt in his career. he unified the belts in two divisions, and he never gave anybody the chance of robbing cause he sparked almost evrybody he faced. While his competition might be similar, tito has had more impressive wins since he didnt struggle in his wins(cept Oscar fight). That being said, Marquez is the better all around boxer of the two.

Tito beat Camacho, an undefeated Campas, undefeated Oba Carr, Sweet Pea, undefeated Oscar, undefeated David Reid, undefeated Vargas....etc.. As great as JMM is, Tito's resume shiits all over his. JMM's resume: - 2 wins over Prime-Pacquiao (2nd and 3rd fights) and 1 disputable loss (1st fight) - Unlucky against prime undefeated Chris John in Malaysia - 2 wins over Juan Diaz - Win over Barrera - Wins over Gainer, Medina, Salido, Juarez. JMM has won titles at Feather, Super-Feather and Lightweight, and got robbed at Welterweight against Pacquiao. So he's a 4 weight champ. And he could become a 5 weight champ if he wins a title at 140. As far as depth in their resume it's pretty even but the wins and performances against Pacquiao means that JMM is greater IMO.

love marquez but trinidads resume is much better than marquez and tito was an icon in the sport of boxing.some people say that marquez is the better boxer so he is the greater fighter but by that same logic you could pretty much rank marquez above almost every fighter except floyd mayweather **** marquez is a much better boxer than barrera skillwise yet alot of people still rank barrera higher than marquez people with more 'power' always become 'icons' far more easily because they create far more exciting fights with more exciting knockouts. but make no mistake JMM is much greater fighter than Tito will ever be

i guess tito's ownage at the hands of Hopkins could be paralled with Juan's ownage in a higher weight class at the hands of Mayweather. But JMM is greater than Tito

Tito the Man, he never lost to a boxer in a caliber of a Norwood or a Chris John.

Tito was a good fight fighter but very stupid similar to Margarito except he had more power if you were smart enough to outbox him you could win a UD like winky unless you got robbed ala the oscar fight but JMM>>>trinidad Not at all. You haven't seen any of his earlier fights. He was actually a very good boxer who fell in love with his power. And, regardless, he was virtually unbeatable right through his whole career until he lost to Hopkins. He was mowing everyone down except Oscar, against whom he was weight drained. Who knows what might have happened if he'd gone home to Puerto Rico to continue training, as Hopkins did, instead of staying in New York for the whole 2 weeks after 9/11 helping moving rubble and saving trapped and injured. And incidentally breathing the foul dust laden air and messing up his training .

In terms of GREATNESS Tito hands down. In reality we should not even argue this. In terms of Boxing SKILLS Marquez by a hundred miles. Haterz gona hate. :bottle:

love marquez but trinidads resume is much better than marquez and tito was an icon in the sport of boxing.some people say that marquez is the better boxer so he is the greater fighter but by that same logic you could pretty much rank marquez above almost every fighter except floyd mayweather **** marquez is a much better boxer than barrera skillwise yet alot of people still rank barrera higher than marquez

Marquez has the better overall skills but Tito has beaten the overall better comp. Trinidad by a shade.

Tito would've never went life and death with Michael Katsidis and Juan Diaz..:fing02: ......... :rolleyes: ..... It sucked watching Katsidis KO Marquez oh wait

JMM went up two weight classes and fought arguably the two currently best p4p fighters, and had a close fight(won) with one of them. B-hop was actually the underdog in the Tito fight. In terms of resume close, but in overall as a fighter JMM is greater. People forget why he went to war Diaz.(criticized for not being fan friendly, age)

When tito lost he retired instead of asking for rematches like JMM. wtf are you talking about? he chase hopkins for years hopkins didnt want a rematch

Just to reiterate, JMM's best wins are against Michael Katsidis, Juan Diaz (after he was beat the fukk up by Nate Campbell), Rocky Juarez and a past prime MAB.... wow, what a legend.. :fing02:

Love Tito, but went with Marquez.

I'm not sure he landed more, I know he threw more though. :) It was a great fight. Very underrated though, probably because it was on BAD. It was like the second or 3rd Vargas fight I ever saw, I scored it numerous times and always have it for Wright. I think I had it 6-6, but, I dont really remember my scorecard. really good fight.

oh, there was no doubt it was controversial. You could have had Wright winning the Vargas fight. but I reiterate: just being able to have such a close fight with a Wright at 154lbs is pretty indicative of your ability as a fighter. and its not out of the question that you could have had Vargas winning the fight, since he did throw more and land more punches, particularly in the last rounds. absolutely...