One would have to beat a champion convincingly....

No that isn't the case, it is a silly thing because it implies there is an uneven playing field from the jump, who wants to see a sporting contest where one side starts with an advantage~ It is an excuse used to justify champs winning close fights~ Exactly this. Its a retarded notion.

....in order to take the title from him. Hasn't this always been the case tho? No you dont. But you have to look like youre actually trying to unseat the champ. Not just trying to look better.

yep , 115-113 ,114-114, 116-112 majority decision :boxing: Someone smack this idiot with a penis. You probably think PWilliams beat Lara too. Lmao. Get off this forum moron. :boxing:

These idiotic Pactards. Dammit... They've ruined boxing. JMM > Pac. ATG Warrior.

IMO, I never REALLY understood the logic in that old ideology...I mean, if you win u win, right? The fact that a guy is the defending champ shouldnt change the fact that he didnt deserve to win a fight...

....in order to take the title from him. Hasn't this always been the case tho? Marquez gave Pacquiao a boxing clinic. That's more than enough.

for me 8 rounds to 4 is pretty convincing

that's why pac has the unenviable responsibility to prove himself in a huge way. his opponents' only tasks is to survive. pac had options -- stay in one spot and be the counterpuncher. but he had to please the crowd. floyd don't give a shiet about the crowd, they get bored, who cares? :bigeyes: http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a426/PoetrysInMotion/NP%20GIFS/SIMON-CONFUSED-GIF-2.gif

that's why pac has the unenviable responsibility of proving himself in a huge way. his opponents' only tasks is to survive. pac had options -- stay in one spot and be the counterpuncher. but he had to please the crowd. floyd don't give a shiet about the crowd, they get bored, who cares? :bigeyes:

you people need to ask yourselves, did marquez beat pac decisively? the answer is a big no. so stop this nonsense. :bigeyes: I'm starting to think that's you in your avatar.

you people need to ask yourselves, did marquez beat pac decisively? the answer is a big no. so stop this nonsense. :bigeyes: But the answer is actually yes. What did you observe last night that said "Pac won this fight?" Other than his sexy muscles and tender singing voice, I mean.

you people need to ask yourselves, did marquez beat pac decisively? the answer is a big no. so stop this nonsense. :bigeyes:

Im so sick of this "the challenger has to be the more aggressor" BULLCRAP, that is a bunch of BULL, all the challenger has to do is win more rounds than the champion w/o knockdowns. And if you actually believe that Pacquiao won more rounds than JMM last night then you are delusional. I dont care what Compubox had, most of Pacquiaos punches could of came in the rounds he won, but over the course of the fight JMM won this fight, hands down. Im my own man, I have my OWN two eyes, I KNOW what I saw last night, I dont care what those three blind judges said, cant no one tell me what I did or didnt see with my OWN eyes, and I saw JMM confuse Manny, counter Manny, hurt Manny, and won at the least, I mean the very least 7 rounds, though I had JMM winning 8-4. These Pactards I just dont understand how you thought Manny easily won this fight, he got his ass handed to him... ..

:rofl: I remember that. I still have that pic saved on my computer haha Probably my best work so far.

marquez didn't beat pac. that's the bottom line. how can you win a fight by mere counterpunching. it's impossible. :bigeyes: You don't know what you're talking about. I'm serious. You clearly have no knowledge of how boxing works. You can't win a fight by "mere counterpunching?" WTF does that even mean? Do you know what's more important than who was countering and who was leading? Who was landing. And counterpunching is still punching and Marquez was countering the hell out of him. GTFO MY WEBSITE

marquez didn't beat pac. that's the bottom line. how can you win a fight by mere counterpunching. it's impossible. :bigeyes: Because you can win a fight with counter punching. that's why. pacs aggression was nullified every time jmm used his counter punching. thus landing cleaner harder punches whilst doing so.

If you beat the champion 8 out of 12 rounds, you actually lose 5-7 on the scorecards. That's just how it is, I thought this was a given? To win 7-5, you must win at least 10 rounds. 8 rounds don't cut it. It hasnt been like this for years. Your talking thirty years ago man.

marquez didn't beat pac. that's the bottom line. how can you win a fight by mere counterpunching. it's impossible. :bigeyes:

That is a myth. You score a fight on effective aggression, ring generalship, defence and hard/clean punching. Marquez won in all areas.

exactly. pac haters and dumb flomos act as if marquez murdered pac. all he did was to defend his a55 without any intention of winning the fight. can't even believe fantasy fights are valid in these site. floyd would school pac and all that crap. :bigeyes: You're too blinded by your fandom to watch boxing. GTFO my website.