Floyd has the right to say whatever he wants as long as he fights good fights. As soon as he came back, he took on Ortiz, and now he is going up to 154 to fight Cotto. He isn't exactly picking easy fights...well, maybe for him they are easy. Anyways, people will always find fault in anything Floyd says.
Self preservation comes first?!? Then why did he choose boxing as his career? That's the lack of warrior mentality people are talking about, if history has proven anything about combat, its that people revere warriors that go out on their shield, even when they lose the battle.
Floyd didn't choose boxing. Boxing was engraved into him by his father and uncle. In a combat sport, that's probably when self preservation is most important. You don't have a team in there with you. So it's important to think about your well being first and foremost.
A lot of gaps in Floyd's answers that Costas could've pressed him on further, but Costas is a smooth customer. He knew had he kept pressing, it would've turned into something more heated, with Floyd probably berating him about not knowing anything about Boxing.
But I like how Costas caught him off guard with: "You keep talking about your health, are you implying that you've got something to be afraid of against Manny". Maybe he should've left that talking point at home since Drug testing wasn't even a issue or topic of discussion.
Yup he says Ali was forced to fight at the end of his career Ali didn't want it. The fans did. IT'S LIKE SAYING I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT PAC IT'S THE FANS THAT ARE THE ONES WHO WANTS ME TO FIGHT HIM, BUT I HAVE TO WATCH MY HEALTH IT'S A DEADLY SPORT. which means he is scared of fighting pac no one will force him to fight pAC. He knows he is in a real fight if they meet in the ring.
"BOXING IS A DEADLY SPORT FIGHTING A LEGITIMATE THREAT I WILL NOT FIGHT"
1.No one said it was a bad thing
2.because he complains about not getting glory
If your a fighter and is scared of health related issues in the sport of boxing. Gtfo of the sport. This sport is deadly. Only the brave and the risk takers survive. Fighting has beens and low risks fights are just pure milking gullible fan boys who wants to get ripped off..
But I like how Costas caught him off guard with: "You keep talking about your health, are you implying that you've got something to be afraid of against Manny". Maybe he should've left that talking point at home since Drug testing wasn't even a issue or topic of discussion.
Yup he says Ali was forced to fight at the end of his career Ali didn't want it. The fans did. IT'S LIKE SAYING I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT PAC IT'S THE FANS THAT ARE THE ONES WHO WANTS ME TO FIGHT HIM, BUT I HAVE TO WATCH MY HEALTH IT'S A DEADLY SPORT. which means he is scared of fighting pac no one will force him to fight pAC. He knows he is in a real fight if they meet in the ring.
"BOXING IS A DEADLY SPORT FIGHTING A LEGITIMATE THREAT I WILL NOT FIGHT"
Floyd quote: " I'm not fighting who fans wants me to fight look what happened to Ali" Translation: Pac is a legit threat, not fighting someone who can be a legit challenge. That's stupid. It's self preservation baby!
Do us a favor tell your boy to retire. In any sport, an athlete wants to be the best and fight the best, if he is for the easy fights and pay checks he has no business in this sport or any sport.
As an athlete you owe yourself to prove yourself most especially if you have the skill to do it IF YOU CAN'T YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS IN THE RING.. THE BEST FIGHT THE BEST.
Everyone knows boxing is a dangerous sport. If you are a prize fighter, you risk your life every time you enter the ring. You risk it more if it's a dangerous fighter you are to fight with. The high risk type of fighter is what glory is all about.. Sadly your boy loves low risk fighters for easy pay checks.
Floyd clearly stated that he isnt giving up a percentage of the ppv to ANYONE including Pac. Did you not hear that part?
OK...but if Pacquiao wasn't with Arum, do you honestly think he wouldn't accept a clean $40 Million...especially if Bob Arum wasn't with him to Suck his money away from him? Arum is the one wanting 50/50 because that is how Promoters make their money back and earn a profit
Boxing is no different then the Movie Industry and the Music Industry, you sign a studio deal and they give you your money to star in the movie, then they turn around and make Hundreds Of Millions sometimes BILLIONS of $$$, same thing in Boxing, the Promoter pays the fighter so much, but then turn around and make MUCH MORE off of PPV Buys, Merchandise, DVD's and a bunch of other stuff
I don't blame Mayweather, he Generates too much on his own, WITHOUT A PROMOTER, WITHOUT THE EXTRA POSITIVE MEDIA COVERAGE, WITHOUT BIG TIME ENDORSEMENTS to all of a sudden SHARE IT with Arum...AGAIN! Again that is where Self Preservation Comes In! He is talking about Financially...he is not OBLIGATED to give anybody 50/50...ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY THEMSELVES DON'T EVEN GET 50/50 FROM THEIR PROMOTER!!!
From a fans stand point yeah I think he should do a 50/50 Split...but from a BUSINESS STANDPOINT...NO HE SHOULD NOT SHARE ANYTHING! Especially if he been keeping % of his Profits since after the Oscar De La Hoya fight
the double standard amazes me. When Cotto stated he cared about his family and the reason he took the knee people were bashing him. Now that May has clearly stated he will not take chances some how he's still the man.
Let's clarify something...taking a knee when ur in trouble is not as bad as people make it out to be...its actually pretty smart in some cases.
As far as Mayweather, because he don't move up in weight like people want doesn't mean anything, I can't remember the last time he's fought an actual slouch!!
Quick example of double standards...everyone is riding Salido, same guy that has like 10 loses right? But Baldomir has a great run, becomes Lineal champ, but because Floyd fights him Baldomirs record is more important than what he actually accomplished during that run.
1.No one said it was a bad thing
2.because he complains about not getting glory[/QUOTE
No ones said its a bad thing??? Read the comments, sounds like everybody believes legacy is more important than health. As if soon as u become a boxer u have to accept getting pimped out my promoters and or fight with a style that puts an even higher risk on ur health. Just to have those same people to turn around and say ur a overrated bum!!! One or two loses and ur a washed up bum...I'd rather cash out too and let the keyboard warriors judge on $h!t they really don't know about!!!
the double standard amazes me. When Cotto stated he cared about his family and the reason he took the knee people were bashing him. Now that May has clearly stated he will not take chances some how he's still the man.
beat them on what??? its just facts, u stick by floyd no matter what. all im saying here is facts.
If you say so. I agree with floyd on purse split and what he said about Jeremy Lin. That hardly counts as everything. I also think Pac hasn't used PED's, but you missed that. Even Deevel just said I agreed that the $40 mil offer was too low.
Again, believe whatever fits your agenda.
You know what that means...
No need to elaborate.
everybody knows floyd got on the easy road as soon as he left 135. how do you think he got the cherry picker reputation? his stans say it's because people "hate" him but that's 1 of the reasons. that and his despicable out of ring behavior. plus their stans what do they know. no need to waste time making threads about the obvious.
^^^ no point in having a debate with big dumb.. dude only see's it floyd's way... notice how i said floyd's way.. dude cant even think for himself. everything floyd says is a go for him. BUT i cant hate on his dedication to defend one man's actions therefore i had made it clear that if im ever in trouble with the law in the future im calling big dumb to my defense.
There is no point to debate me when all you do is hate blindly and ignorantly. Again, the typical tactic. If you can't beat em, well insult them and say its about loyalty to floyd. But its all good.
There's no point in debating with you. The world can look out the window and see a blue sky. If Floyd looks out and says its red, you'll defend him and say something like "who is everyone to say what Floyd sees out of his own 2 eyes".
Out of curiousity, just last week you said Floyd's demand of no purse split was pure greed on his behalf and you didnt agree with it. Do you still have the same view?
Your first paragraph is retarded but its a typical tactic of manny fans like yourself. You know you are wrong and cant refute what i wrote with any facts, so instead you denigrate the poster by saying well yeah you agree with anything floyd says. SO be it.
Just apply the same standard to every fighter you apply to floyd.
There is no reason for me to change my opinion of what I felt about the $40 mil.
Self Preservation...FINANCIALLY! Not Physically in the ring, some of you knew what he was saying but because you hate the guy your turning this comment into "Mayweather Is Avoiding Pacquiao For Self Preservation" lol
Mayweather don't want to do business with a crook like Bob Arum, especially when it comes to % Splits and Sharing Profits and I can't really say I blame him because he himself knows how DIRTY Arum IS...hell he did Business with the man before so he knows him more then any of us do
The problem with Mayweather is that he is not articulate enough to give a proper answer so he end up sticking his foot in his mouth a lot and he gives people who hate him a lot of Ammo to use against him with some of his comments and contradictions
All he has to say is that if Pacquiao wants to fight and wants 50/50 then pay Bob Arum off himself to get out of his current deal (Like Mayweather did to leave Top Rank to go fight Oscar) and we will go off and work a deal out in which BOTH OF US will walk away with A LOT OF MONEY because lets be honest...NEITHER SIDE NEED A PROMOTER AT THIS POINT, but Pacquiao is DEPENDENT on Konz and Arum, it is obvious that he lets them handle EVERYTHING FOR HIM FINANCIALLY and that is a HUGE MISTAKE, me personally I wouldn't want my Manager and Promoter to get along and to agree on everything and I also think it is stupid to accept a Manager that your Promoter Recommends for you :nonono:
Mike Tyson made that mistake, he accepted the managers that Don King recommended for him and together that ROBBED TYSON BLIND!
This is why Arum don't like people like Rachel Donaire, Cameron Dunkin, Al Haymon because they are very smart people and they are not going to be push overs and they are not going to work together with Bob Arum to EXTORT THEIR CLIENTS! But he loves people like Oner and Konz, push overs who will do what ever Arum tells them
Floyd clearly stated that he isnt giving up a percentage of the ppv to ANYONE including Pac. Did you not hear that part?
Self Preservation...FINANCIALLY! Not Physically in the ring, some of you knew what he was saying but because you hate the guy your turning this comment into "Mayweather Is Avoiding Pacquiao For Self Preservation" lol
Mayweather don't want to do business with a crook like Bob Arum, especially when it comes to % Splits and Sharing Profits and I can't really say I blame him because he himself knows how DIRTY Arum IS...hell he did Business with the man before so he knows him more then any of us do
The problem with Mayweather is that he is not articulate enough to give a proper answer so he end up sticking his foot in his mouth a lot and he gives people who hate him a lot of Ammo to use against him with some of his comments and contradictions
All he has to say is that if Pacquiao wants to fight and wants 50/50 then pay Bob Arum off himself to get out of his current deal (Like Mayweather did to leave Top Rank to go fight Oscar) and we will go off and work a deal out in which BOTH OF US will walk away with A LOT OF MONEY because lets be honest...NEITHER SIDE NEED A PROMOTER AT THIS POINT, but Pacquiao is DEPENDENT on Konz and Arum, it is obvious that he lets them handle EVERYTHING FOR HIM FINANCIALLY and that is a HUGE MISTAKE, me personally I wouldn't want my Manager and Promoter to get along and to agree on everything and I also think it is stupid to accept a Manager that your Promoter Recommends for you :nonono:
Mike Tyson made that mistake, he accepted the managers that Don King recommended for him and together that ROBBED TYSON BLIND!
This is why Arum don't like people like Rachel Donaire, Cameron Dunkin, Al Haymon because they are very smart people and they are not going to be push overs and they are not going to work together with Bob Arum to EXTORT THEIR CLIENTS! But he loves people like Oner and Konz, push overs who will do what ever Arum tells them
Like I said, Bob Costas asked a question about purse split and this was part of floyd's answer. For you to take it out of that context to make your argument is really childish.
ANyone who has followed the sport a long time knows the financial difficulties Ali had late in his career and thew fights he took. I just don't think you are old enough or know enough to remember this. Of course you want to criticize floyd so you probably aren't too concerned with any facts the impact your ability to do just that.
The first time purse split was made an issue was by manny. He said this in the video where he said "there are no more issues with testing." SO if you want to discuss a pattern, perhaps you should be honest.
Interesting way you word it when Manny outright refused testing, not just the date. Perhaps you should treat all fighters the way you do Manny.
There's no point in debating with you. The world can look out the window and see a blue sky. If Floyd looks out and says its red, you'll defend him and say something like "who is everyone to say what Floyd sees out of his own 2 eyes".
Out of curiousity, just last week you said Floyd's demand of no purse split was pure greed on his behalf and you didnt agree with it. Do you still have the same view?
I'm not saying that it isnt a fact that Ali fought late in his career solely for money, but saying that that's what Floyd was referring to when he spoke of "self preservation" is pure speculation!
When Floyd spoke of money, he referred to all the hard work he's put in for him to give up any of the purse split. Funny how splitting the purse wasnt an issue up until now. If I can find it on my PC, I even have an article with direct quotes from Floyd and Ellerbe stating that the money split isnt an issue.
Just think of the definition of "Self preservation" and tell me what part of that has anything to do with finances or purse split? I posted it up for you a few posts ago.
self-pres·er·va·tion (slfprzr-vshn)
n.
1. Protection of oneself from harm or destruction.
2. The instinct for individual preservation; the innate desire to stay alive.
And for the record, when it came to testing, Pac never backed out. Both sides couldnt come to an agreement on a cutoff date therefore Pac moved on. Now that testing is no longer an issue, the new issue from Floyd is money split. Better yet, no split at all. Dont you see a pattern here?
Like I said, Bob Costas asked a question about purse split and this was part of floyd's answer. For you to take it out of that context to make your argument is really childish.
ANyone who has followed the sport a long time knows the financial difficulties Ali had late in his career and thew fights he took. I just don't think you are old enough or know enough to remember this. Of course you want to criticize floyd so you probably aren't too concerned with any facts the impact your ability to do just that.
The first time purse split was made an issue was by manny. He said this in the video where he said "there are no more issues with testing." SO if you want to discuss a pattern, perhaps you should be honest.
Interesting way you word it when Manny outright refused testing, not just the date. Perhaps you should treat all fighters the way you do Manny.
I'm not assuming anything. If you know boxing history, you know what fights Ali took late in his career for money. There was NO demand for him to fight Berbick or Holmes. SO for you to put those fights in the same breath as Frazier is simply ridiculous.
He would give it all up to have his health-the it is the focus, that being the money he made, especially late in his career, which is what Bob asked Floyd about, the money and the purse split.
Deevel you can interpret the statement the way you'd like. As for fear of manny, when the fight was all but made, manny backed out because of the OST request. If you take from that floyd is afraid, well then either you are stupid or you are a manny fan who feels a need to blame floyd solely. Either way its ok with me.
I'm not saying that it isnt a fact that Ali fought late in his career solely for money, but saying that that's what Floyd was referring to when he spoke of "self preservation" is pure speculation!
When Floyd spoke of money, he referred to all the hard work he's put in for him to give up any of the purse split. Funny how splitting the purse wasnt an issue up until now. If I can find it on my PC, I even have an article with direct quotes from Floyd and Ellerbe stating that the money split isnt an issue.
Just think of the definition of "Self preservation" and tell me what part of that has anything to do with finances or purse split? I posted it up for you a few posts ago.
self-pres·er·va·tion (slfprzr-vshn)
n.
1. Protection of oneself from harm or destruction.
2. The instinct for individual preservation; the innate desire to stay alive.
And for the record, when it came to testing, Pac never backed out. Both sides couldnt come to an agreement on a cutoff date therefore Pac moved on. Now that testing is no longer an issue, the new issue from Floyd is money split. Better yet, no split at all. Dont you see a pattern here?
Problem with your interpretation is, you're assuming what Floyd might have been referring to. Nowhere in that interview did Floyd mention anything about Berbick or Holmes. As a matter of fact, there was more a demand from the boxing world for his fights with Frazier than there was with the other 2 you mentioned.
My interpretation is from what exactly came out of Floyd's mouth. "Self preservation. I dont want to end up like Ali. He would give it all up to have his health". What part of his self preservation statement even hints at him referring to money or a larger purse?
I'm not assuming anything. If you know boxing history, you know what fights Ali took late in his career for money. There was NO demand for him to fight Berbick or Holmes. SO for you to put those fights in the same breath as Frazier is simply ridiculous.
He would give it all up to have his health-the it is the focus, that being the money he made, especially late in his career, which is what Bob asked Floyd about, the money and the purse split.
Deevel you can interpret the statement the way you'd like. As for fear of manny, when the fight was all but made, manny backed out because of the OST request. If you take from that floyd is afraid, well then either you are stupid or you are a manny fan who feels a need to blame floyd solely. Either way its ok with me.