If Pac KOs JMM, How Does That make FLoyd Look?

This simply means that Pacquiao is better than Floyd when Floyd fought Pacquiao`s leftover. The 2 main sports writers from Pac's own country, where he is looked at as God said he lost the last fight w/Marquez. You certainly can't consider Marquez a "leftover" when both fights could've gone either way and MOST experts feel that Marquez won the last one.

If he were at a weigh-in of 135 it changes the entire camp as far as weight goes , he will train much lighter throughout camp making the lighter weight , he will have less muscle mass because of that and just manipulate the water at the end .of camp , if has too much mass he wont make the weight , CWs matter a lot in these fights . At 144 Pac will train much bigger through out camp , and JMM will train much higher also , the consequence of this is more power less speed for both . Now who do you think more Power and less speed will advantage . This fight is a cherry pick at this weight , wasnt Pac just saying JMM might retire , off course he will its his last big pay send off , he has lost before that dont worry him , so being the fighter he is he will give it a try , the pay is too good not too , at the end of the day this fight is a Team Pac scam . "this fight is a Team Pac scam" WTF!! - A hater will always be a hater. Hope you wake up from dreamland. Haha - If you call it a scam? what will you call your idol's fight? Multi level scam? lols. I always laugh at you floydiots for making yourself dumb as what you always write on forums such as this. A scam makes the 9th highest grossing live gate on vegas? that makes the 2nd one for Pac, If you see it as scam then you probably should check your psychologist and ask him/her the if your still on Reality. You floydiots are losing your psyche, No wonder why your idol is behaving like that! Like Idol like fans! lols

bro IMHO history has shown it is not healty or good for fighters to go down in weight specially at the tail-end of their careers i.e Roy Jones, Dela Hoya and it is easier for older fighters to fight at heavier weights on their comebacks (i.e. Penalosa, Morales etc...) the result of the pac jmm fight has got nothing to do with how floyd will be looked up to later... the result though will have an effect on the viability of pac vs floyd, if ever...

Not understanding, if Pac fights at 135(a weight that his and his team has said he can make) as long as fight night he's at 148 or whatever...Then why not fight at 135? bro IMHO history has shown it is not healty or good for fighters to go down in weight specially at the tail-end of their careers i.e Roy Jones, Dela Hoya and it is easier for older fighters to fight at heavier weights on their comebacks (i.e. Penalosa, Morales etc...)

You silly prick. Marquez is a featherweight, through and through. He spent 15 years as a featherweight. The only reason he moved up was to get the bigger fights, and that was only four years ago when he was well into his mid-thirties. Pac was a 147 pound fighter by 30 years old. He couldn't make 126, or 130. Marquez can still make 130, especially considering he just came into a 135 fight at 133 when he's 38 years old. At there same age as Pac now, Marquez was still a small 126 fighter while Pac is a genuine jr welterweight-welter. It's really very simple. Marquez is a small fighter. Much smaller than Pac. Pac is a welterweight and has been now for as long as Marquez has been a 130-135 fighter. Difference is Marquez still makes weight easily at nearly 40 and Pac couldn't make 130 or 135 if he had to at 32 or whatever he is. There's some simple logic there: it's because Pac is naturally much bigger than Marquez. Bro just as argument, Marquez was never a small FW, he stayed at the division like most boxer if not all do "to take advantage" of size during fight night JMM from FW up to present usually weights at 140-144 at fightnight, Marquez is for sometime now a full pledge lightweight, IMHO even big enough to compete effectively at 140 and I dont see him fighting effectively anymore at 130, last "1-3" pounds are usually the hardest to loose... PAC although has grown into welterweight frame, he only adds a few pounds from weight-ins usually fighting @148, I am sure PAC can still fight effectively at 140 but not at 135 ... my point is PAC is not that much bigger than Marquez, we will see this at fight night this November

what happens if Pac has trouble with JMM??? ooooooooo see what i did there? imho, PAC will have problems with JMM like their first two fights, only difference this time PAC will finally finish off Marquez ...

lol. sounds like exuces to me to not give pac his due cerdit if he beats jmm. how about statin those variables you are talking about. coz based on thier history, thse are the most likely scenario about the weight(atleast close to it). jmm = 145 pac = 148 jmm at lw is 3 lbs lbs smaller than pac at ww. 3 lbs. sayin pac is ww and jmm is lw argument is too shallow of looking at things. we ve seen thme guys healthy at those weifhts,. now , how is this fight unfair for jmm again? You silly prick. Marquez is a featherweight, through and through. He spent 15 years as a featherweight. The only reason he moved up was to get the bigger fights, and that was only four years ago when he was well into his mid-thirties. Pac was a 147 pound fighter by 30 years old. He couldn't make 126, or 130. Marquez can still make 130, especially considering he just came into a 135 fight at 133 when he's 38 years old. At there same age as Pac now, Marquez was still a small 126 fighter while Pac is a genuine jr welterweight-welter. It's really very simple. Marquez is a small fighter. Much smaller than Pac. Pac is a welterweight and has been now for as long as Marquez has been a 130-135 fighter. Difference is Marquez still makes weight easily at nearly 40 and Pac couldn't make 130 or 135 if he had to at 32 or whatever he is. There's some simple logic there: it's because Pac is naturally much bigger than Marquez.

If Pac KO's JMM, It will make Floyd look... like Floyd. Pac is supposed to KO JMM and Floyd was supposed to shut JMM down. I don't think Floyd will look bad at all if Pac KOs JMM. The pressure is actually on Pac to beat JMM convincingly.

if pac figfhts at 135, he would come in most likley around that what he will come in at ww CW(so would jmm). get it? it does not matter wheterh the fight is at 135 , 140 or ww sizewise, both will come in (mostlikely) similar in size. pac has not fought at 135 in years homeboy, why should he risk being weightdrained regardless of what his team say. If he were at a weigh-in of 135 it changes the entire camp as far as weight goes , he will train much lighter throughout camp making the lighter weight , he will have less muscle mass because of that and just manipulate the water at the end .of camp , if has too much mass he wont make the weight , CWs matter a lot in these fights . At 144 Pac will train much bigger through out camp , and JMM will train much higher also , the consequence of this is more power less speed for both . Now who do you think more Power and less speed will advantage . This fight is a cherry pick at this weight , wasnt Pac just saying JMM might retire , off course he will its his last big pay send off , he has lost before that dont worry him , so being the fighter he is he will give it a try , the pay is too good not too , at the end of the day this fight is a Team Pac scam .

Obviously you don't know to read. So I ask it this way. How do you know their unofficial weight history is actually the factual in the ring weight?Nobody can know what their unofficial weight history for the simple reason that it's unofficial but I think you totally understand the point he's trying to drive at. However, pac has fully acclimatized himself at WW while Marquez has not, having said that, I think this fight sucks.

it is a guess. do you think they will come in far from thier most previous weights? cmon now. FFS's, do you not know how to read? OK, unofficial weight had Margarito weighing what? 165?(whatever it was) how do we know that it's a fact that Marg weighed that in the ring that night against Pac?

I don't think pac wins this fight easy. Juan Manuel is his proverbial 'contrapelo'. Still, I thinks this fight sucks, I'll be watching this event with friends though, complete with foods and drinks.

oh it matters becuase thats the only way they can fight healthily. Not understanding, if Pac fights at 135(a weight that his and his team has said he can make) as long as fight night he's at 148 or whatever...Then why not fight at 135?

it is not fact but an educated guess based on thier history. Obviously you don't know to read. So I ask it this way. How do you know their unofficial weight history is actually the factual in the ring weight?

again. becuase pac does not wnat to cut too much weight and it might not be safe for him to get back down to a weightclass he has not fought at in years. Why would it matter if he comes in on normal fight night weight?

It's a mismatch from the beginning, so it wouldn't make a difference on Mayweather's performance. Let's see if Manny shuts JMM out every round like Floyd did, that would be more impressive than knocking out a 38 year old fat JMM, Floyd was 10-20lbs overweight against Marquez fight night when they fought. Marquez might be heavier than Pac fight night in this fight. If Pac ko Marquez, once again this would be a big slap in floyd face just like when he retired Oscar, Mosley and Hatton.

dude , who can predct pac's and jmm's fight night weight on nov 12 and claims it to be a fact? you crazy here's a fact: jmm at 145 was healthy pac at 148 was healthy therfore if both guys come in at thier healthy weights( it's their choice), there wont be a clear advantage by either guy. When you read that the unofficial weight on Nov 12...How is that a fact that they're weighing that in the ring?

it matters becuae it is a proof that pac has no clear advantgae over jmm with this fight opposite to what you are claiming. no jmm is not doing anything bad. as long as he comes in close to his fight night weights in the past (145)and as long as pac comes in around like he always has(148) at fifht night. jmm is only moving up in weight on paper, but physically he does have to. Then why is this fight not at 135 again?

it is called educated guess based on their history homie, it aint rocket science. yes i can read and i know why you cant give a direct answer. becuase you know you are wrong. So something that's a guess matters the most? Over something that's a fact? WTF? :rofl:

simple. because pac does not want to cut too much weight. and it might not be safe for him to go down that low again. moving up and down is bad for figfhters, but i know you already know that. Why would that matter if on fight night, which obviously you think it factual...Will be around his previous fights? So then JMM is doing something bad? Moving up and down? Went up to WW, back down to LW then back up to WW...That's not good apparently. So he must be in a disadvantage going by this, no?