Would Arturo Gatti Hav Beaten Floyd Mayweather In A Rematch If...

Ortiz is definitely BETTER than Gatti but then so is Juan Manuel Marquez and he effectively won just as many rounds. It's not THAT comparison. Maybe Ortiz suddenly fixes everything but it's easier to bet on what is than what might. I wouldn't say he actually realized anything other than "he's not scared". I think he still has the fight already played out in his head. Guys that come in like that get quickly ****ed if anything goes different. He didn't come in to the Berto fight with it already over - he came in with it already won. Just a different Ortiz here. Overall, we both know Floyd will probably win this fight. But the thing that makes this fight interesting and worth watching is the fact that it's the most serious challenge either Floyd or Pacquiao has taken on in a long time. It's not a matter of whether this fight is even or not but of how competitive it is RELATIVELY. That's what makes this fight interesting.

nah i dont think so...

You're right about that, but there is a decent chance he will tackle those delusions in training camp and come in as prepared as he possibly can. I think the fact that the reality check has happened 2 months before the fight is a good sign. There is also the chance--one you have alluded to--that he will continue to be emotionally troubled as he has been in the past and completely lose it on fight night. In fact, aside from the skill discrepancy between the two, I think his emotional weakness is his biggest flaw. Despite all these things, I still consider him a very live opponent and more dangerous than anyone else Floyd or Manny has fought in the past several years. Btw, Ortiz has more skill than Gatti had, when he uses it. Ortiz is definitely BETTER than Gatti but then so is Juan Manuel Marquez and he effectively won just as many rounds. It's not THAT comparison. Maybe Ortiz suddenly fixes everything but it's easier to bet on what is than what might. I wouldn't say he actually realized anything other than "he's not scared". I think he still has the fight already played out in his head. Guys that come in like that get quickly ****ed if anything goes different. He didn't come in to the Berto fight with it already over - he came in with it already won. Just a different Ortiz here.

At no point in Gatti's career under any circumstances could he have ever won the fight, period. Yep, Gatti never stood a chance. Totally different levels.

Most fighters Floyd fights are rarely the same after the first fight. That's like asking Mike Tyson to make one final comeback for all the marbles. Everybody knows he's not the same, but people would still pay to see him get his butt handed to him for the 10th time.

That is the thing though - confidence and overconfidence are two different things. Overconfidence is like a sugar rush while confidence is like an energetic personality. I didn't even get into that but I definitely also wanted to note it. Overconfidence leads to getting lost and crashing to reality. Ortiz is "built up". It's not like when he fought Berto. There he was confident and came in pissed off and ready to die. Plain confidence is a refusal to give in and/or a knowledge that this other guy just can't get the win no matter what that starts and ends the fight in that same mindset. I think the end was indicative of the overconfidence. He starts out like a 12 foot gorilla and ends it caved in to Floyd. That's basically how the fight will be if he doesn't change his mindset. If he was in the right mindset then he would have ended that thing just as angry and built up as he started it. You're right about that, but there is a decent chance he will tackle those delusions in training camp and come in as prepared as he possibly can. I think the fact that the reality check has happened 2 months before the fight is a good sign. There is also the chance--one you have alluded to--that he will continue to be emotionally troubled as he has been in the past and completely lose it on fight night. In fact, aside from the skill discrepancy between the two, I think his emotional weakness is his biggest flaw. Despite all these things, I still consider him a very live opponent and more dangerous than anyone else Floyd or Manny has fought in the past several years. Btw, Ortiz has more skill than Gatti had, when he uses it.

At no point in Gatti's career under any circumstances could he have ever won the fight, period.

More of a Haton than a Gatti, but with quicker hands and way more power. Ortiz doesn't have the quickness of Hatton. He moves like a tank.

Ortiz will do ALOT better than Gatti ...

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What you are saying is true. If he goes in betting on a one punch knockout he's probably screwed. But considering how that interview ended, I think Ortiz realized how good Mayweather actually is, and knows he will have to get a serious game plan together if he wants to win. Watch the video at the very end after Mayweather looked at Kellerman and said "I'm gonna kill this kid." Ortiz laughed uncomfortably and responded with a weak "shutup." .He then tried to deflect the aggression towards Kellerman. You can tell that at the end of that interview Ortiz realized what he was in store for. I think his ideas of Floyd being scared, and the reality of the FMJ that is going to show up on fight night is starting to dawn on him. I just don't think he is really that confident--especially after the interview. More of a Haton than a Gatti, but with quicker hands and way more power. Hatton gave Floyd a lot of trouble and had him uncomfortable early. Then Hatton got the point taken away and got mad and tried to walk face first through Mayweather and land one and got beaten up.

More of a Haton than a Gatti, but with quicker hands and way more power.

He would have beat Mayweather if he had been 5 years younger and not shop worn Gatti would have never beaten Mayweather.

What you are saying is true. If he goes in betting on a one punch knockout he's probably screwed. But considering how that interview ended, I think Ortiz realized how good Mayweather actually is, and knows he will have to get a serious game plan together if he wants to win. Watch the video at the very end after Mayweather looked at Kellerman and said "I'm gonna kill this kid." Ortiz laughed uncomfortably and responded with a weak "shutup." .He then tried to deflect the aggression towards Kellerman. You can tell that at the end of that interview Ortiz realized what he was in store for. I think his ideas of Floyd being scared, and the reality of the FMJ that is going to show up on fight night is starting to dawn on him. I just don't think he is really that confident--especially after the interview. That is the thing though - confidence and overconfidence are two different things. Overconfidence is like a sugar rush while confidence is like an energetic personality. I didn't even get into that but I definitely also wanted to note it. Overconfidence leads to getting lost and crashing to reality. Ortiz is "built up". It's not like when he fought Berto. There he was confident and came in pissed off and ready to die. Plain confidence is a refusal to give in and/or a knowledge that this other guy just can't get the win no matter what that starts and ends the fight in that same mindset. I think the end was indicative of the overconfidence. He starts out like a 12 foot gorilla and ends it caved in to Floyd. That's basically how the fight will be if he doesn't change his mindset. If he was in the right mindset then he would have ended that thing just as angry and built up as he started it.

only if he was allowed to bring a sawed off shotgun in the ring with him

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lol, ortiz isn't gatti. and if you added what you asked about gatti, he'd be even slower. but check this out

he gained 15 pounds and turned southpaw? That's what Ortiz/Mayweather will be. Ortiz completely unsold me on his chances after the 'Face Off'. Victor Ortiz is overconfident and underprepared. He thinks he will just show up, blast through the doors, and win. He is going to come in with a mindset that's straight ahead forward, wound up, and eating punches just to prove a point. Mayweather is going to land at will and all Ortiz will do is take a frightful beating until someone stops it. He would have beat Mayweather if he had been 5 years younger and not shop worn

Lettuce Bee Cereal... NO.

He has SERIOUS power; and just talked for fifteen minutes like SERIOUS power is an automatic victory. You know who the last guy to think he could win a step up to elite class automatically was? David Haye. David Haye, with SERIOUS power. That mindset that Ortiz just presented tells the story of a guy that thinks he'll just show up and Mayweather will fall over because Ortiz is bigger, younger, and hungry. He doesn't think this will be tough at all. He won't come in looking to not get hit where possible. He thinks he just walks through and takes 10 to give 1 and win on the spot that 1 lands. Mayweather batters him; and Ortiz won't know what hit him. Thus, Mayweather/Gatti II. Oscar better get ahold of this kid and straighten him out. A Victor Ortiz that acknowledges that he will have to do certain specific things to win is dangerous. Not one that literally says he has no gameplan. What you are saying is true. If he goes in betting on a one punch knockout he's probably screwed. But considering how that interview ended, I think Ortiz realized how good Mayweather actually is, and knows he will have to get a serious game plan together if he wants to win. Watch the video at the very end after Mayweather looked at Kellerman and said "I'm gonna kill this kid." Ortiz laughed uncomfortably and responded with a weak "shutup." .He then tried to deflect the aggression towards Kellerman. You can tell that at the end of that interview Ortiz realized what he was in store for. I think his ideas of Floyd being scared, and the reality of the FMJ that is going to show up on fight night is starting to dawn on him. I just don't think he is really that confident--especially after the interview.