Manny inside fighting

Agree again mate! Pac's inside game IMO, in a scale of 1-10 with 10 the highest, would just be a 4, but It would be fun to watch someone go inside the pocket with Pac and see what happens. :lol1: lolz I probably rate him at 5 but a dangerous 5 and just like what you said it will be fun to see someone go for it and hopefully its Floyd he he ...

This is inside fighting... Pac's too quick to get caught on the inside like that. Therefore, I don't consider him an inside fighter at all. I agree bro, No one is really saying PAC is an inside fighter, what I am only saying is PAC has also an inside game and to make a game plan considering this a weakness is not really good for anyone's health ...

Wow, good thread, hope all threads about pac-money are like this one.

I was just watching some pac vids and it reminded me of something my trainer was telling me when pacman fought clottey. How good is mannys clinche fighting? I know he has good footwork and can control distance well but he has to have some experience with phonebooth fighting. I dont wanna offend anyone by saying this but if he isnt that good in the clinche then that might be the true key to beating manny. I dont mean when him and his opponent just stand right in front of eachother, im talking about him and his man keaning on eachother bumping shoulders that type of fight. Does anyone have any videos or links of Manny fighting that type of fight? If so ill send u green k Manny is a mid-to-distance fighter because he has speed, power and mobility that's why he doesn't need to employ inside fighting skills. Hatton, Cotto and Margarito tried to force Manny to fight in the inside but they can't catch him and look what happened to them?! :wtf: Every fighter needs to develop skills based on their own attributes and not try to be a complete fighter that doesn't fit in on your own physical ability?! :fing02:

floyd's inside game is to the body in the clinch he punches you right in the gut. he did to hatton quite a bit and was getting mosley even as he was hurt in round 2

IMO FMJ is a better inside fighter than Pac, but getting inside on Pac is quite perilous. If FMJ tries to get inside Pac will counter a clinch with short hooks and vicious uppercuts, or just side step and turn FMJ. Pac doesn't throw a lot of uppercuts, nor does he land them often, but when they do land.. FMJ is better off controlling the distance and disrupting Pac's rhythm with a constant helping of jabs.

manny's inside fighting is trash. technique wise, it is trash. he gets around it by being fast and powerful. so he doesn't look like complete garbage when going inside because he can still hurt guys and fire off quicker. doesn't mean his inside game is good. it's still garbage. he'll hit arms rather than strike at the holes. being able to sidestep left or right like turning and turning pac did during the cotto fight is an indicator of pac in-fighting....like in rounds 2 to 4.... again, it is pac's foot speed and hand speed and the angles he throws punches that help him win fights...like also what he did with marg

manny's inside fighting is trash. technique wise, it is trash. he gets around it by being fast and powerful. so he doesn't look like complete garbage when going inside because he can still hurt guys and fire off quicker. doesn't mean his inside game is good. it's still garbage. he'll hit arms rather than strike at the holes.

it is a mistake for Floyd to fight PAC inside, it just dangerous, reckless and will probbaly result in Floyd being KOED, IMHO if their is a PAC weakness to exploit is his vulnerability to jabs, Manny eats jabs like POPCORN and Maywather's jab is one of the best in the business... there are very few and short instances where pac could be said to be entangled on a so called inside fighting...... these are very hard to notice as pac hits the body of his opponent very fast and in combos even up close.....the effect of which is the quick separation of fighters.....where again pac goes back to his in and out motions.... the pac cotto, pac erik and pac diaz fights come to mind............

Agreed..i honestly dont think there are any fighters out there would be able to get that close to pac, except one. Ill say it again the best way to get inside for a clinche battle is to lead with your dominant hand and fall into your opponent, something floyd is very good at. All im saying is if floyd notices that after he falks into manny, that manny isnt doing much on the inside, than he will most likely adjust to just potshots and clinching.. Hm well floyd uses his lead right and falls into his opponent alot he doesnt always fight in the clinche because he doesnt need to but in a fight that involves an opponent of so much skill i could see him trying it out..fights that come to the top of my head are hatton and burton. im not saying floyd is a clinche fighter just that he is good in the clinche and in a fight of this magnitude look for any weakness to be exploited on either side. Yeah thats the best way against alot of people but you member mannys reflexs are good enough to see that after awhile and and his ability to pick a perfect punches when needed is gonna make that hard for anyone who just throws the lead and falls cause if you get caught it's twice as bad ause you feel into it.

It sounds good but to catch a man to fight n the inside your feet have to be as fast as his and mayweathers aren't anymore. He just doesn't move as much anymore since the hatton fight really and you have to move and be able to cut off the ring and close that distance and that's not something Floyd does and that's something mannys good at stopping.

he doesnt really have any of it, when talking about his abilities on the world stage. he needs distance for his punching. but, his other attributes more than make up for it, and there isnt really anyone in boxing right now that could take advantage of that weakness.

pac is vulnerable to inside uppercuts & body work... but like previous posters stated, if he has the footwork to avoid inside fighting, then its a non-issue... floyd isnt an in-fighter anyway... IMO, margs was putting in good inside work on pac. margs loves to put his head down and just pound in close.

The thing with that type of fight is, you either have poor footwork or you're pressing for it. Now Hatton was hugging rather than inside fighting, and he has never been an inside fighter. Floyd made mince meat of that, but to be honest, Hatton provided an easy target. Now for others, such as maybe the Berto and Ortiz fight, Berto has poor footwork and was tired/hurt. Now Pac, if he good, fast feet, and controls range well. If he isn;t hitting you, then it's unlikely you are gonna hit him. Floyd does have fast feet and good footwork, but if he gets close, there is that midrange where Pac is very dangerous. Floyd will have to take shots to get that close, and Pac won't be running in with a telegraphed left hook, and hugging. What fights do you think shows Mayweather inside fighting BTW? May's inside game is as nonexistant as pac. He'd be at an even bigger disadvantage brcausr of his long wingspan. Flomos just love to think that the elbow/forearm right hanf combo floyd loves to throw counts as inside fightinh.

The thing with that type of fight is, you either have poor footwork or you're pressing for it. Now Hatton was hugging rather than inside fighting, and he has never been an inside fighter. Floyd made mince meat of that, but to be honest, Hatton provided an easy target. Now for others, such as maybe the Berto and Ortiz fight, Berto has poor footwork and was tired/hurt. Now Pac, if he good, fast feet, and controls range well. If he isn;t hitting you, then it's unlikely you are gonna hit him. Floyd does have fast feet and good footwork, but if he gets close, there is that midrange where Pac is very dangerous. Floyd will have to take shots to get that close, and Pac won't be running in with a telegraphed left hook, and hugging. What fights do you think shows Mayweather inside fighting BTW? Agreed..i honestly dont think there are any fighters out there would be able to get that close to pac, except one. Ill say it again the best way to get inside for a clinche battle is to lead with your dominant hand and fall into your opponent, something floyd is very good at. All im saying is if floyd notices that after he falks into manny, that manny isnt doing much on the inside, than he will most likely adjust to just potshots and clinching.. Hm well floyd uses his lead right and falls into his opponent alot he doesnt always fight in the clinche because he doesnt need to but in a fight that involves an opponent of so much skill i could see him trying it out..fights that come to the top of my head are hatton and burton. im not saying floyd is a clinche fighter just that he is good in the clinche and in a fight of this magnitude look for any weakness to be exploited on either side.

who needs inside fighting if you can be a great fighter without it:dunno:

Pac would be giving up weight and strength on the inside I don't think we are going to see him go there at WW. Thats what im getting to..fighting on the inside might be where his biggest weakness is with floyd. Weve all seen how well floyd potshots, leading with the right hand and then falling into your opponent is one if the best ways to initiate a clinche where youll be able to control your opponent. When you have someone throw a punch at you when your off balance and then they immediately put there bodyweight on you, the push off and score some solid shots, it takes alot away from you.

a clinch fight usually happens when a fighter or fighters gets tired, they rest, conserved energy and at the same time dish out punches to their opponents, when manny gets tired he pause covers up yet waits for an opening then boom combos here and there then change position. if an opponent tries to clinch on manny he jabs ducks move sideways a right hook there and a left straight and the opponent stops in his track. his 6-9inch cross or uppercut can also prevents an opp0nent from clinching. it was almost always the phantom punch, the one they were not able to see particularly during exchanges, the one that got cotto and diaz, the short punch thats closest to manny's chest is the one almost always misses by the camera specially when manny,s back is turned toward it and hes covering his opponents from it, just like in some instances during jmm fights. manny doesnt clinch also because he doesnt need to he can fight prolly even more than fifteen rounds. It is true that clinching happens alot when fighters get tired thats obvious. But its totally different when your gameplan is to clinche fight, in order to fight in the clinche u exert alot more energy than it looks like, you have to be able to control your opponents hands and push or pull againt them at the right time. Most skilled, smart fighters use clinche fighting to get their opponents tired and then will go back to boxing.

When I say inside fighting I dont mean two fighters standing close to eachother and throwing punches..i mean a real clinche fight. When fighters are leaning on eachother, have arms tangled. The type of fight where two guys are constantly pushing against eachother and bumping off with there shoulders and elbows and fighting for better position. Usually this type of fighting is only allowed with certain referees. a clinch fight usually happens when a fighter or fighters gets tired, they rest, conserved energy and at the same time dish out punches to their opponents, when manny gets tired he pause covers up yet waits for an opening then boom combos here and there then change position. if an opponent tries to clinch on manny he jabs ducks move sideways a right hook there and a left straight and the opponent stops in his track. his 6-9inch cross or uppercut can also prevents an opp0nent from clinching. it was almost always the phantom punch, the one they were not able to see particularly during exchanges, the one that got cotto and diaz, the short punch thats closest to manny's chest is the one almost always misses by the camera specially when manny,s back is turned toward it and hes covering his opponents from it, just like in some instances during jmm fights. manny doesnt clinch also because he doesnt need to he can fight prolly even more than fifteen rounds.

I think Floyd will go on the inside at times. The key to getting on the inside is having a timed right hand that can cut the distance to transport em for longer ranges into the inside. Floyd often throws a launching right that makes way for him to enter the pocket, think of it like a battering ram breaking open gates. He'll then use his elbow or push down their head to make their weapon jam, and do his bodywork. Hatton had no means of getting into the inside and died trying against Floyd and especially manny. Fighting manny is like World War I, dealing with him in mid-range is like charging out of your trench into "no man's land". Yeah..no doubt pac is dangerous in the mid range but when he has an opponent pressing up against him usuing his bodyweight to keep him from moving around i think thats his weakness.