This is for all you Pactards who always say Pacman is the best. Please give a sensible game plan that you think with result in victory for Manny. Pactards always flood any Mayweather thread with bull**** post of food, and baggy eyed, flat ass women. Heres your oppotunity to post and show your knowledge in the game. This post will be in direct competition with a thread on Mayweather beating Pacquiao Blue print. Lets see which fighter fans are the smartest. Let the games begin!!!!!!!!!!!The first thread to reach 100 sensiable game plan post wins.
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besides the first jlc fight, the jesus chavez fight was a good one too..
Very often overlooked, Chavez was getting at Mayweather harder then anyone i had ever seen, landing very solid shots, but even Chavez was hitting a lot of elbow, shoulders, and gloves, not to mention all that aggression got him was accurate, and powerful counter uppercuts to the chin that had the fight stopped.
I would say the styles he avoids would be a good start. He doesn't like to fight natural welterweights, jabbers, southpaws. Odds are one of these will end his protected unbeaten run.
This is for all you Pactards who always say Pacman is the best. Please give a sensible game plan that you think with result in victory for Manny. Pactards always flood any Mayweather thread with bull**** post of food, and baggy eyed, flat ass women. Heres your oppotunity to post and show your knowledge in the game. This post will be in direct competition with a thread on Mayweather beating Pacquiao Blue print. Lets see which fighter fans are the smartest. Let the games begin!!!!!!!!!!!The first thread to reach 100 sensiable game plan post wins.
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It's pretty simple in theory. There is always a blueprint, whether or not it has been executed. I think you're asking for proof, when the title suggests evidence. Two different things, to be truthful.
Regardless, he has a solid 1-2, which is obviously set up by the jab. A jab offsets speed and since both fighters have speed, this benefits Manny. The reason? Mayweather doesn't jab much. Speed and timing do well to off set a fighter that uses speed primarily, especially when it's backed with power. Which is what Manny falls back on. So, this favors Manny.
If he can go in and out the way Oscar de La Hoya WANTED to, then he's got the chance to do some damage. Get his respect early. The difference will be that Manny is faster and more comfortable with going in and out on a consistent basis.
THE BLUEPRINT:
Jab. In and out. Use power while you time his shots. Keep him offset. Catch him early and get his respect. Manny CAN do this. Whether or not he does isn't really relevant. It's still the blueprint.
This is for all you Pactards who always say Pacman is the best. Please give a sensible game plan that you think with result in victory for Manny. Pactards always flood any Mayweather thread with bull**** post of food, and baggy eyed, flat ass women. Heres your oppotunity to post and show your knowledge in the game. This post will be in direct competition with a thread on Mayweather beating Pacquiao Blue print. Lets see which fighter fans are the smartest. Let the games begin!!!!!!!!!!!The first thread to reach 100 sensiable game plan post wins.
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the blueprint (as you call it) for beating pbf is really simple;
pbf is a cerebral fighter; very bright in the ring as he had ably demonstrated with his 0...
a pbf opponent who can put pbf in the dark or in a quandary as to what the opponent intends to do will likely catch pbf off-guard one way or the other...sort of "having no blueprint" as the blueprint for fighting pbf...musicians call this playing by ear...
for example, if pbf keeps on running, then chasing and not chasing him, (like on an on & off manner) will pressure pbf when fans start to clamor for action...a stare down like the one pac did over cotto (for cotto's running) and fans jeering would be too much for pbf's ego to take...
in addition, preparing a "surprise attack" (like a law suit) will hurt pbf, maybe not so much physically but casts doubts in pbf's mind if he, pbf still controls the fight or not.
It's premature and stupid to talk about the blue print on how to beat a scared fighter.
First, let's talk about the real scientific medical blueprint on how can Floyd grow a pair for him to fight the midget. TS please don't hesitate to throw in your 2 cents.
misinterpreted, I see what your saying but I don't think roachs game plan will be high work rate, like against Cotto and mosley, Pac started slow in respect to cottos boxing ability and Mosleys power, manny will start slow, jab and pick shots, he would only pick up if he feels he has mayweather, manny hasn't lost confidence during fights very often only times was against Marquez and Morales, and we know mayweather can take your confidence with hard, fast counters, and lead shots
I do agree with your viewpoint in some respects but people need to understand that I am not saying it is a foregone conclusion that Pacquiao, or Mayweather for that matter, wins. Some Posters on this site often state a fighters best attributes in order to justify their conviction that the fighter they like would win.
What is often ignored is flaws. Despite being a Pacquiao fan, I do acknowledge that this would be a difficult fight for Pacquiao and one that he may lose. However, I think any intelligent poster would agree that Pacquiao has the ability to win early rounds due to shots that slip through due to speed and unusual angles as well as the southpaw stance. At the same time, Pac could get knockdowns. Even if Mayweather dominates late, he could be facing an uphill battle.
not true, i just dont think YOU or any other wannabe on NSB can come up with a gameplan to beat a world class athlete at his own discipline. what Floyd has forgotten about boxing, is more than what you or any other poster will ever know
SMH -why is this not true. If I don't agree with you I am suddenly a moron who doesn't know anything about boxing. If you can't engage in intelligent discussion and tell my why I am wrong, don't engage in discussion at all.
All this blueprint talks gets on my nerve. People act as if because Mayweather has not lost there is no tactic that people can think up and employ. His flaws can be seen just as any other fighters can. Pacquiao is just the type of fighter who could upset Floyd; he is fast, atheletic, and doesn't fade. consequently, floyd could find himself 5 down on the cards and with a knockdown against him. He always adapts, but would it be enough in such a scenario.
not true, i just dont think YOU or any other wannabe on NSB can come up with a gameplan to beat a world class athlete at his own discipline. what Floyd has forgotten about boxing, is more than what you or any other poster will ever know
I don't know if you misinterpreted what I said to mean that Judah hadn't fought often before Mayweather, but that is not what I meant. What I meant was, Pacquiao would be throwing more than Judah early. People often say this is untrue because Mayweather lowers fighters workrates. He does this but he wouldn't do it early, especially against a southpaw. Mayweather usually blocks and does slick skills early, but he would lose rounds to the more active Pacquiao early. This happened at times in the De La Hoya fight.
misinterpreted, I see what your saying but I don't think roachs game plan will be high work rate, like against Cotto and mosley, Pac started slow in respect to cottos boxing ability and Mosleys power, manny will start slow, jab and pick shots, he would only pick up if he feels he has mayweather, manny hasn't lost confidence during fights very often only times was against Marquez and Morales, and we know mayweather can take your confidence with hard, fast counters, and lead shots
All this blueprint talks gets on my nerves. People act as if because Mayweather has not lost there is no tactic that people can think up and employ. His flaws can be seen just as any other fighters can. Pacquiao is just the type of fighter who could upset Floyd; he is fast, atheletic, and doesn't fade. Consequently, Floyd could find himself 5 rounds down on the cards and with a knockdown against him. He always adapts, but would it be enough in such a scenario? People usually bring up the Castillo fight, but what is often dismissed is the Judah fight. Judah won 4 rounds in my view. Now just imagine if Judah won 5 rounds, the knockdown was scored for him and he lost every other round. In this case, it would be 114-113 Mayweather. Something similar could happen vs Pac and May could lose a split decision.
8-4 and 9-3, isn't close, castillo did better than many expected.
and to.comment on something else. how was Judah relatively inactive?
I don't know if you misinterpreted what I said to mean that Judah hadn't fought often before Mayweather, but that is not what I meant. What I meant was, Pacquiao would be throwing more than Judah early. People often say this is untrue because Mayweather lowers fighters workrates. He does this but he wouldn't do it early, especially against a southpaw. Mayweather usually blocks and does slick skills early, but he would lose rounds to the more active Pacquiao early. This happened at times in the De La Hoya fight.
The thing is, as good as Lederman is, he does often score fights for the guy applying the pressure more then the boxer. not always but sometimes.
The fight was close, but Castillo didn't turn it on until late in the fight, and no matter how many shots you land, if you lost most or all of the first 6 rounds then you got an uphill battle on you hands.
Not True. Lederman had the Kotelnik-Alexander fight like 116-111 or 117-110 for Alexander when he threw 1100 air punches that never landed and Kotelnik whooped his ass.
Oh, I am sorry, you didn't think it was close so it wasn't... FFS.
8-4 and 9-3, isn't close, castillo did better than many expected.
and to.comment on something else. how was Judah relatively inactive?
lol your an idiot, like I said I just watched it, wasn't that close, Floyd gave the rematch, one because I believe there was a clause as with most championship fights, and too shut lames like you up
Oh, I am sorry, you didn't think it was close so it wasn't... FFS.
Castillo beat Flooyd and for one night had the blueprint and was floyds kryptonite. But he gave Floyd the rematch he wanted so Floyod could avenge that loss which he did. Floyd badly wanted that rematch to avenge the loss.
how can you avenge a loss if you didnt lose?
Castillo beat Flooyd and for one night had the blueprint and was floyds kryptonite. But he gave Floyd the rematch he wanted so Floyod could avenge that loss which he did. Floyd badly wanted that rematch to avenge the loss.
lol your an idiot, like I said I just watched it, wasn't that close, Floyd gave the rematch, one because I believe there was a clause as with most championship fights, and too shut lames like you up