Ortiz will have to do as Castillo

Ortiz is no JLC and JLC used a good Jab to get close to Floyd's body..I don't see Ortiz bring anything to the table to really trouble Mayweather in this fight..He is too young and imo not skilled enough to beat Mayweather.. That aspect of Castillo's game was one of the simplest, yet most among the most impressive skills that I have seen in boxing. The keys to victory or whatever Showtime calls it before Castillo-Corrales II highlighted that. It was so silky smooth and effective that I likely never would have noticed it or paid it any attention had Showtime not pointed it out for me. Just incredible...

Ortiz is no JLC and JLC used a good Jab to get close to Floyd's body..I don't see Ortiz bring anything to the table to really trouble Mayweather in this fight..He is too young and imo not skilled enough to beat Mayweather..

If Ortiz is coming forward it dosen't matter what hand he uses. Being a lefty is a only a huge advantage if someone is coming for you. I'm not sure I agree with this. The first example that came to mind was the first few rounds of Mayweather Jr.-Judah. Judah was doing well without Floyd coming at him... at worst they were standing their ground in the middle of the ring. I can't remember if Zab was actively moving forward against Floyd thought... it's been forever since I watched that fight. But do remember that fight changed the moment Floyd started moving forward and pressuring (not so) Super Judah, so... that is at least an example that shows that what you said is not always true. The 2 posters above me got it right. In order to do what the OP described, first Ortiz would have to develop skills like Castillo which he doesn't have. Castillo's inside skills (and him and his career in general honestly) are one of the most underrated facets of boxing in the last twenty years. I would take Castillo's skills on the inside over any fighter who has fought since 1990, except MAYBE Julio Cesar Chavez Sr... MAYBE. ortiz fought good on the inside against berto Disagree. That whole fight was contested at about mid range, when they were both in each other's range, but not shoulder to shoulder. The action from the whole fight was mainly straight punchers, which are almost never seen in inside fighting. That was a different version of Floyd. Not nearly as big or strong at the time and not as seasoned. That stuff wont work on Floyd now, even if its a prime Castillo This is definitely true... he proved in the rematch that he had learned his lesson, winning a decision free of controversy. Plus, logic tells you that he has only gotten better and more polished since then, so it's hard to use Castillo as a relevant example for anything to do with any current/future fights that Mayweather Jr. will be involved in. Am I the only one who knows that Floyd had a torn rotator cuff in that fight? Cmon fellas. Sure, there is that, although I do think DLT has the more relevant point. Floyd's biggest problem in the first Castillo fight was laying on the ropes more so than not using his jab because of his injured left shoulder. ortiz is a bum and will lose horribly God I wish I hadn't given out so much karma in the last twenty four hours. This post is extremely ignorant, and I would love to give it some red. Hopefully more than a few posters have already done the job for me. Something Pac hasn NEVER done too.(Fight a young fighter in his prime, boxer/brawler with a lot of heart.) It's unclear to me a very good/great boxer has to be in their prime AND young... if they are in their prime (the best version seen in their career), why does it matter what age they are? Anyway, I'd say that at least Marquez fits the bill of a prime fighter with plenty of heart that can both put on a technical boxing clinic, as well as go to war and see who has more desire to win the match... and he fought him twice, with the older version of Marquez looking like the better version of Marquez to my eyes.

the first fight with castillo floyd was injured, thats why in the rematch a few months later floyd beat him easy you cant fight floyd the same way like other fighter did, he already know how to beat that style

ortiz fought good on the inside against berto The gap beetween someone like Berto and Floyd is huge. I like Ortiz but he will have to fight the fight of his life to beat Mayweather, he has to use controlled aggression and dont lunge in with straight lefts as he normally does.

body punching and Ortiz... aint happening

ortiz fought good on the inside against berto He head hunted way to much while Berto was hurt on the ropes. That uppercut-left hook is nice though.

Something Pac hasn NEVER done too.(Fight a young fighter in his prime, boxer/brawler with a lot of heart.) can you list down the names and ages of all pac's foes from his early days to the present?

think i read something like this b4..... something roach stated not so long ago If he did then he's right.

I see fans are falling into the same things trainers do which is think Floyd is the same fighter he was when he fought Castillo. How many fighters have watched that tape thinking they can do the same as Castillo did only to find out it's totally different from the outside looking in? Once you get in that ring that gameplan will go out of the window once you realize it won't work. think i read something like this b4..... something roach stated not so long ago

Yea that would be cool, but apparently the two brothers have some serious feud going on. Do know exactly what it is? I've heard things but not quite sure.

I agree with this. I'm not saying Ortiz is gonna win but i would not be shocked to see him pull off the upset. As yu said i think he has a shot. As i have said i credit both fighters for taking this fight. Floyd because I really didn't think he would take a risk fighting a prime fighter in Ortiz with all the tools and power. I credit Ortiz because he didn't have to take this fight right after winning his title. He had other options and could have taken a fight of this magnitude a year down the road. I am excited for this fight, i just hope Golden Boy isn't pushing him to fast and ruin him like Vargas was ruined. I hope Victor can pull off the upset. s you said i think he has a shot. If Floyd takes him lightly and looks forward to Manny, he could get put down. i wanna see the garcia family reunite for this occasion, help each other out in training and give each other lil tips and stuff.

i dont, mayweather has never fought a fighter like ortiz in his prime. a boxer puncher/brawler with power - southpaw, and with heart. when he did, he didnt look too good. that being said mayweathers still more likely to win, but i think ortiz has a shot. I agree with this. I'm not saying Ortiz is gonna win but i would not be shocked to see him pull off the upset. As yu said i think he has a shot. As i have said i credit both fighters for taking this fight. Floyd because I really didn't think he would take a risk fighting a prime fighter in Ortiz with all the tools and power. I credit Ortiz because he didn't have to take this fight right after winning his title. He had other options and could have taken a fight of this magnitude a year down the road. I am excited for this fight, i just hope Golden Boy isn't pushing him to fast and ruin him like Vargas was ruined. I hope Victor can pull off the upset. s you said i think he has a shot. If Floyd takes him lightly and looks forward to Manny, he could get put down.

That was a different version of Floyd. Not nearly as big or strong at the time and not as seasoned. That stuff wont work on Floyd now, even if its a prime Castillo The Floyd of those days had better legs he moved more. The Floyd of today is stronger because of all the roid use and roid rage he's been having. I predict that Ortiz will beat Mayweather he will have to ko him cause they will rob Ortiz like they did Castillo

Something Pac hasn NEVER done too.(Fight a young fighter in his prime, boxer/brawler with a lot of heart.) true, but it still takes a lot to take out the legendary fighters in morales, barrera. Then to go up in weight to fight men way bigger than he is naturally and fight cotto, margartio, clottey. it takes a special fighter. I will say they werent the same because a regular margarito/cotto would have put up a better fight. That being said, mayweather deserves credit for fighting a young powerful guy.

i dont, mayweather has never fought a fighter like ortiz in his prime. a boxer puncher/brawler with power - southpaw, and with heart. when he did, he didnt look too good. that being said mayweathers still more likely to win, but i think ortiz has a shot. Something Pac hasn NEVER done too.(Fight a young fighter in his prime, boxer/brawler with a lot of heart.)

I agree with this.. i dont, mayweather has never fought a fighter like ortiz in his prime. a boxer puncher/brawler with power - southpaw, and with heart. when he did, he didnt look too good. that being said mayweathers still more likely to win, but i think ortiz has a shot.

That was a different version of Floyd. Not nearly as big or strong at the time and not as seasoned. That stuff wont work on Floyd now, even if its a prime Castillo I agree with this..

I see fans are falling into the same things trainers do which is think Floyd is the same fighter he was when he fought Castillo. How many fighters have watched that tape thinking they can do the same as Castillo did only to find out it's totally different from the outside looking in? Once you get in that ring that gameplan will go out of the window once you realize it won't work.

Am I the only one who knows that Floyd had a torn rotator cuff in that fight? Cmon fellas.