What are Maidana's chances against Ortiz at 147?

I'd have to see how Maidana looks at 147 before I'd give Ortiz credit for a win there, some guys don't carry weight well. Ortiz was getting killed against Maidana in their bout, but i'm not entirely sure if Ortiz got his head straight, he couldn't have still come back and won that fight. He just needed to box. He was putting Maidana down if he had the heart to continue, he could have won that fight. Many fighters before him have come back from worse, but they had heart. All in All, I think Ortiz "could" beat Maidana at 140 or 147 but Maidana is probably so deep inside his head, that who knows if he would. a maidana tune up at 147 lbs is unnecessary for ortiz to get credit. I mean maidana did make him quit after all. if ortiz beats him, I say it erases his loss.

I thought this BEFORE the Berto fight, I think Ortiz is heads and shoulders better than Maidana. He quit that night, it's that simple. In a rematch, I think Ortiz KO's him. I agree, Ortiz is the better fighter but he just fought the wrong fight, but he bounced back. At 147 Ortiz seems to be stronger, if they fight again Maidana won't bully him.

I remember Ortiz saying that if Maidana wants some he can come to 147. At first i thought this was a ***** move to avoid Maidana, but now clearly that's not the case. So, what are Maidana's chances of stopping Ortiz again, this time at 147? even maidana doesn't want to move up to 147 lbs. he sited it as one of the reasons why the fight won't happen. either maidana doesn't want the rematch or he doesn't want it at 147 lbs.

About the same chances. If he draws him into a dog fight, he would pound away.

He would stop Maidana in the mid rounds. He lost the first fight because he got sloppy and Maidana pounced on him. He's fights Maidana again he outboxes him, picking his shots until he breaks him down or hurts him enough to finish him.

Maidana in my opinion has elite power and an elite chin, everything else about his game is c-. But you never know how he might look at 147. Also Ortiz/Maidana might just be a case of one fighter just having the correct tools and style to beat the other.

Great Post..........................People forget ortiz put him down 3 times. Heart is no longer a question. Ortiz at the end of the 6th and start of the 7th showed me a lot. I, like you, already believed ortiz would win that fight, now I'm sure. Fight would be stopped by the end of 3. If saturday's ortiz shows up, maybe even quicker. Stop with the maidana love fest.....Yes he beat ortiz but he was floored. He lost to khan and looked bad against CORLEY and MORALES. Maidana is exciting not elite........Saturday's ortiz was ELITE Couldn't have said it better myself.

I'd have to see how Maidana looks at 147 before I'd give Ortiz credit for a win there, some guys don't carry weight well. Ortiz was getting killed against Maidana in their bout, but i'm not entirely sure if Ortiz got his head straight, he couldn't have still come back and won that fight. He just needed to box. He was putting Maidana down if he had the heart to continue, he could have won that fight. Many fighters before him have come back from worse, but they had heart. All in All, I think Ortiz "could" beat Maidana at 140 or 147 but Maidana is probably so deep inside his head, that who knows if he would.

u saying he cant beat collazo? He could man, he could but Collazo has a pretty good shot. He has a good chin, two hands unlike Berto, a good workrate and inside game.

Yeah people forget Ortiz put him down multiple times. At 147 I would favor Ortiz. I mean you seen how big(no homo) that mothaf-cka was at ww. At 161 I thought he would have been slow and sluggish but boy was I wrong about that.

Ortiz is a different animal at 147, I'd pick Victor to win, maybe even by stoppage (Can't count Maidana's heart out). Make it happen though, I'm only interested in Ortiz vs. Maidana, Collazo or Mike Jones, with certainty I'd say he beats 2 of the 3 names I mentioned, that being Maidana and Jones. Jones v. Ortiz would be interesting. Though I wouldn't want that coming off for at last a few more fights if I'm Jones. Ortiz in my opinion blows threw maidana and collazo at this point...............what was he when he fought maidana 22, 23? Barely a man. Now that kid is a MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ortiz is a different animal at 147, I'd pick Victor to win, maybe even by stoppage (Can't count Maidana's heart out). Make it happen though, I'm only interested in Ortiz vs. Maidana, Collazo or Mike Jones, with certainty I'd say he beats 2 of the 3 names I mentioned, that being Maidana and Jones. u saying he cant beat collazo?

Fakface Maidana is gonna get thrashed at 147!:boxing:

I thought this BEFORE the Berto fight, I think Ortiz is heads and shoulders better than Maidana. He quit that night, it's that simple. In a rematch, I think Ortiz KO's him. Great Post..........................People forget ortiz put him down 3 times. Heart is no longer a question. Ortiz at the end of the 6th and start of the 7th showed me a lot. I, like you, already believed ortiz would win that fight, now I'm sure. Fight would be stopped by the end of 3. If saturday's ortiz shows up, maybe even quicker. Stop with the maidana love fest.....Yes he beat ortiz but he was floored. He lost to khan and looked bad against CORLEY and MORALES. Maidana is exciting not elite........Saturday's ortiz was ELITE

Ortiz is a different animal at 147, I'd pick Victor to win, maybe even by stoppage (Can't count Maidana's heart out). Make it happen though, I'm only interested in Ortiz vs. Maidana, Collazo or Mike Jones, with certainty I'd say he beats 2 of the 3 names I mentioned, that being Maidana and Jones.

I thought this BEFORE the Berto fight, I think Ortiz is heads and shoulders better than Maidana. He quit that night, it's that simple. In a rematch, I think Ortiz KO's him.

He would present the exact same challenges. It would prove once and for all if Ortiz is all the way back. Maidana is dangerous against anyone.