Nigell Benn, Michael Watson and Chris Eubank were all better than Calzaghe as well.
They would have all retired undefeated if they had fought the same string of bums that Cazaghe did.
If Calzaghe did appear in a top-100 list it would be somewhere between 95 and 100.
You can bring up age all you want, but Joe has a W over Chris Eubank, and Eubanks wasnt that old when they fought, but if thats the excuse you want to bring up, dont worry, I just brought it up for you.
You can do a top 20 or top 25 in just this past decade that wouldn't include Joe Calzaghe...
Start adding in other decades and then it becomes apparent...Joe Calzaghe shouldn't even be allowed to even sniff the paper on a Top 100 list
I'm not a Calzaghe fan or a detractor, so no bias on this one, really. I'd say it wouldn't be irrational to have him in the lower part of a top 100, but I don't have him in mine. I respect him as a fighter, and I consider him to be a great fighter with a real bugger of a style to beat, but there's been so, so many great fighters with great careers, I can't justify him being in the top fifty in any way. His consistency was awesome but too many guys beat too much higher a class of fighter multiple times to rank him that high, imo.
Joe Calzaghe has a good case for being the best supermiddleweight in the history of boxing, but then again that is a bastard division and hasnt been afforded a rich and vibrant division like the lightweights and welterweights, joe was a very unorthodox and brilliant fighter but i just cant put him in the top hundred.
I'd venture to say he is in the top 125 no problemo.
Calzaghe caught Hopkins and Jones both at the end of their careers. Would you consider Marcianos victory over an aged Joe Louis as something extraordinary, I wouldn't...........Rockin':boxing:
I never said I rated his wins over Jones and Hopkins highly, I was just asking who the third ATG who Calzaghe fought was.
But since you brought it up, the win over Jones meant nothing, but the win over Hopkins was a good win, considering how well Hopkins has aged.
Well, I personally don't have an ATG list, so it'd be wrong of me to criticize yours. But if you don't want to post it fair enough.
I rather not since my list has way too many Mexicans for most people's liking on this website and I do not want to start a Ethnical debate. I am currenly burned out on those kind of debates and I am trying to be coo these days!!
Believe it or not I have one. But I strongly believe you would disagree with most of the names that are on my list. Everyone has a list of their ATG favorite fighters and everyone would probably have very different opinions on others list.
Well, I personally don't have an ATG list, so it'd be wrong of me to criticize yours. But if you don't want to post it fair enough.
Can I see your ATG list?
Believe it or not I have one. But I strongly believe you would disagree with most of the names that are on my list. Everyone has a list of their ATG favorite fighters and everyone would probably have very different opinions on others list.
Come on people he is in the top 50 ATG. He retired undeafeated!!****t sorry about making him the ATG number 1 ever in Great Brittain boxing history, He is only behind Lennox Lewis then, sorry!
Can I see your ATG list?
Come on people he is in the top 50 ATG. He retired undeafeated!!****t sorry about making him the ATG number 1 ever in Great Brittain boxing history, He is only behind Lennox Lewis then, sorry!
This would be true if it wasn't easy to name 50 fighters greater than him, also hes not the best from GB and nor is Lennox.
Nigell Benn, Michael Watson and Chris Eubank were all better than Calzaghe as well.
They would have all retired undefeated if they had fought the same string of bums that Cazaghe did.
If Calzaghe did appear in a top-100 list it would be somewhere between 95 and 100.
I have to agree. Lennox Lewis is probably the best out of Britain and Calzaghe is also one of the best from Britain but i don't think he places too far ahead of Sven Ottke.
I seriously doubt anyone has a top100 ATG list to begin with, and I doubt even more they know of all the great fighters throughout the history of boxing.
1. Harry Greb
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Bob Fitzsimmons
6. Willie Pep
7. Joe Calzaghe
8. Henry Armstrong
9. Lennox Lewis
10. Roberto Duran
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