I hear a lot about Shane Mosley's "prime"
I have to ask. When was this "prime"? When he was beating B level fighters at one of the worst lightweight divisions in boxing history and being fully overrated for his accomplishments against the formidable Philip Holidays of the scene? When he was taking EPO and steroids in the early 2000's to beat Oscar De La Hoya and fellow steroid user Fernando Vargas?
I guess that everyone has a prime, but I wonder exactly how good Mosley ever really was and what he's ever really done legitimately to deserve the respect he's gotten. He fights everyone, sure, but when he fought everyone was he fighting them because he knew he had the special pills and shots to beat them? He certainly wasn't fighting everyone at lightweight, not that there were many to fight.
Mosley's best performance was against Margarito. That was his last hurrah, and who knows, he may have been using EPO then too considering how poor his stamina looks now in comparison.
Definitely his last days at lightweight and the fights before losing to Forrest. If Vernon Forrest, who had Shane's number, isn't around, Mosley might have been p4p #1 for a while.
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Would have love to seen a prime FLoyd at WW against prime Forrest.
De La Hoya-Mosley 1 is certainly prime Mosley, that was his apex how you want to break his prime down around that fight is debatable, I would consider him prime through the Forrest fights because while he got whooped bad in the first one he came back decently in the second one while he still certainly lost he made the fight a lot more competitive against a very tough match-up for him.
Once he went to 154 he was really pushing it, while he did alright there and after when he came back down he was never the same guy after those Forrest fights.
I hear a lot about Shane Mosley's "prime"
I have to ask. When was this "prime"? When he was beating B level fighters at one of the worst lightweight divisions in boxing history and being fully overrated for his accomplishments against the formidable Philip Holidays of the scene? When he was taking EPO and steroids in the early 2000's to beat Oscar De La Hoya and fellow steroid user Fernando Vargas?
I guess that everyone has a prime, but I wonder exactly how good Mosley ever really was and what he's ever really done legitimately to deserve the respect he's gotten. He fights everyone, sure, but when he fought everyone was he fighting them because he knew he had the special pills and shots to beat them? He certainly wasn't fighting everyone at lightweight, not that there were many to fight.
Mosley's best performance was against Margarito. That was his last hurrah, and who knows, he may have been using EPO then too considering how poor his stamina looks now in comparison.
was there a point to this topic other than to disrespect shane mosley?
his best performance was against Oscar
he jumped from lightweight to fight the champion at 147
He had 2 fights at 147 before DLH.
Rivera was the only WW bout he didn't look all that great in until Forrest. Many people say he was better at 135, but he looked great at 147 too until Forrest, a tough style matchup and also a much better fighter than anyone Shane faced at 135. I say his prime was 97/98 to 02.
Exactly man.
The Oscar fight was his prime. After that, it was all downhill. He got exposed against Forrest and was never the same.
If you watch everyone of his fights after that you see just how much he labored in every fight.
Watch the Estrada, Cruz, Mayorga, Wright, Cotto, Mora, Mayweather, Collazo fights.
He wins some of those but looks awful doing it and the ones he loses are embarrassingly bad.
He is one of the most overrated one dimensional brawlers of all time. He gets a lot of respect mostly cuz' he's a nice likeable guy.
he looked great against collazo
and he gave miguel a very tough fight when miguel was undefeated
he's been more competative than oscar was later in his career
Exactly man.
The Oscar fight was his prime. After that, it was all downhill. He got exposed against Forrest and was never the same.
If you watch everyone of his fights after that you see just how much he labored in every fight.
Watch the Estrada, Cruz, Mayorga, Wright, Cotto, Mora, Mayweather, Collazo fights.
He wins some of those but looks awful doing it and the ones he loses are embarrassingly bad.
He is one of the most overrated one dimensional brawlers of all time. He gets a lot of respect mostly cuz' he's a nice likeable guy.
I agree with that entire quote. Also, if he didnt have such a great chin, he would have 10 or 11 losses instead of 6
Exactly man.
The Oscar fight was his prime. After that, it was all downhill. He got exposed against Forrest and was never the same.
If you watch everyone of his fights after that you see just how much he labored in every fight.
Watch the Estrada, Cruz, Mayorga, Wright, Cotto, Mora, Mayweather, Collazo fights.
He wins some of those but looks awful doing it and the ones he loses are embarrassingly bad.
He is one of the most overrated one dimensional brawlers of all time. He gets a lot of respect mostly cuz' he's a nice likeable guy.
I hear a lot about Shane Mosley's "prime"
I have to ask. When was this "prime"? When he was beating B level fighters at one of the worst lightweight divisions in boxing history and being fully overrated for his accomplishments against the formidable Philip Holidays of the scene? When he was taking EPO and steroids in the early 2000's to beat Oscar De La Hoya and fellow steroid user Fernando Vargas?
I guess that everyone has a prime, but I wonder exactly how good Mosley ever really was and what he's ever really done legitimately to deserve the respect he's gotten. He fights everyone, sure, but when he fought everyone was he fighting them because he knew he had the special pills and shots to beat them? He certainly wasn't fighting everyone at lightweight, not that there were many to fight.
Mosley's best performance was against Margarito. That was his last hurrah, and who knows, he may have been using EPO then too considering how poor his stamina looks now in comparison.
His stamina is gone because hes damn near 40. Not everyone is a Hopkins, he has the legs and stamina at this point similiar to Roy Jones, but Mosley still has a fantastic chin left though. Still has fast hands compared to other fighters in his weight class but his real problem is his workrate and he paws with the damn jab rather than snapping it. He has the "cant pull the trigger" syndrome which affects his accuracy. In his prime though he was the man. He had something like a 85% KO ratio after 35 or 36 fights if im not mistaken. Even with the PED's I still think De La Hoya would the first fight and the second I would still probably give Mosley even though it was close. Hes a hall of famer though no doubt.
Definitely his last days at lightweight and the fights before losing to Forrest. If Vernon Forrest, who had Shane's number, isn't around, Mosley might have been p4p #1 for a while.
97/98 to 02.
His best performance was against DLH in 00'. People often say he was best at lightweight, but I thought much of that simply had to deal with weaker opposition. He looked really good in all of his first 5 WW fights with the exception of the Rivera fight. He looked great in the DLH fight at 147.
I hear a lot about Shane Mosley's "prime"
I have to ask. When was this "prime"? When he was beating B level fighters at one of the worst lightweight divisions in boxing history and being fully overrated for his accomplishments against the formidable Philip Holidays of the scene? When he was taking EPO and steroids in the early 2000's to beat Oscar De La Hoya and fellow steroid user Fernando Vargas?
I guess that everyone has a prime, but I wonder exactly how good Mosley ever really was and what he's ever really done legitimately to deserve the respect he's gotten. He fights everyone, sure, but when he fought everyone was he fighting them because he knew he had the special pills and shots to beat them? He certainly wasn't fighting everyone at lightweight, not that there were many to fight.
Mosley's best performance was against Margarito. That was his last hurrah, and who knows, he may have been using EPO then too considering how poor his stamina looks now in comparison.
his best performance was against Oscar
he jumped from lightweight to fight the champion at 147