2011 is coming and Floyd fought only 2 times against a bloated Lightweight Marquez and an inactive Mosley in a Span of 4 years from 2007.
I understand how he retired and waited all the Welterweights to lose so once he comes back he will have an excuse not to fight them Cotto and Margarito.
Mayweather waited for Mosley to be inactive for 1 year and 6 months..
Mayweather is waiting again for Pac beat all the fighters he ducked and once his shop worn and shot , Floyd will fight him or once Pac loses he will have an excuse not to fight them.
Cotto and Margarito - I Retire from Boxing
Pacquiao - I changed the rules of the commission, Poked the Security Guard, Beat my Wife and giving Death Threat to my Kids
No Floyds wins over Judah and Baldomir were legit in my book.
I never knocked either of those moves and have taken up for Floyd when people bashed him for taken those fights.
Judah was coming off a lost on Baldomir. You gave credit for Baldomir? Any fighter out there would beat Baldomir.
See how these pac lovers are.....You say floyd's wins over baldomir and judah are BS and then you go on to say clottey had wins over those two and throw in praise for the same fighters. This must be another case of when floyd fought them they were old, but when justifying your love for manny those same fighters suddenly get younger.
No Floyds wins over Judah and Baldomir were legit in my book.
I never knocked either of those moves and have taken up for Floyd when people bashed him for taken those fights.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WELTERWEIGHTS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT DON'T WORK FOR TOP RANK? THIS SH*T IS LIKE A PINBALL MACHINE :thinking:
Not really, I mean there is Mike Jones I don't think he is technically with Top Rank but he has a rematch with SK who is with Top Rank...So that is a no go..
We can talk about Kell Brook? Wanna talk about him? Who wins Jones-Brook? I will ride with MJ to the end.
Your right, I don't understand why you must try to discredit good fighters just to hate on one fighter you don't like. I don't understand how a fighter that has been top 5 in his division for years is garbage. I don't understand how guys on vacation or fighting two divisions higher are credible opponents. And FFS I don't understand how you think Berto beats Margo.
Seems you really don't understand. I suggest you take my advice.
I think you didn't understand my previous posts. We can't move forward until you do. Start from the top.
Your right, I don't understand why you must try to discredit good fighters just to hate on one fighter you don't like. I don't understand how a fighter that has been top 5 in his division for years is garbage. I don't understand how guys on vacation or fighting two divisions higher are credible opponents. And FFS I don't understand how you think Berto beats Margo.
There were better alternatives, thus you're wrong.
Mayweather over Clottey
Williams/Martinez/Berto over Margarito
Berto/Bradley/Martinez over Mosley
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Yes, I can put besides because one guy is on vacation, the other two are fighting @ 160, not 147.
Other names were Berto and Bradley both of whom Clottey, Cotto and Marg would be favorded against. Your a freaking broken record dude. There's really only 3 guys that are "better" fights than Mosley, one is a 140lber who has a fight scheduled, the other is a Middleweight and the last guy...well I'd like to see Pac fight Berto but that does jack **** for his $$ or legacy. Really, 10 years down the line will people care more about Pac beating Berto?
I think you didn't understand my previous posts. We can't move forward until you do. Start from the top.
Sorry, can't put besides. Besides...i named others.
Yes, I can put besides because one guy is on vacation, the other two are fighting @ 160, not 147.
Other names were Berto and Bradley both of whom Clottey, Cotto and Marg would be favorded against. Your a freaking broken record dude. There's really only 3 guys that are "better" fights than Mosley, one is a 140lber who has a fight scheduled, the other is a Middleweight and the last guy...well I'd like to see Pac fight Berto but that does jack **** for his $$ or legacy. Really, 10 years down the line will people care more about Pac beating Berto?
I said besides Mayweather AND F*CKING MIDDLEWEIGHTS!! Oh yea, I'm not talking about Mosley, you are. Mosley fight isn't the best available, I acknowledge that...but I still think he beats Berto and Bradley but they (esp Bradley) would probably be a tougher fight for Pac solely due to his style.
This is that BS I'm talking about, all these "better opponents" are either 2 weight classes up or unproven at the elite level. Even the "washed up" fighters Pac has fought has competed at the elite level, who the hell has Berto or Bradley beat that comes close to even the faded Zab Clottey beat?
Sorry, can't put besides. Besides...i named others.
There were better alternatives, thus you're wrong.
Mayweather over Clottey
Williams/Martinez/Berto over Margarito
Berto/Bradley/Martinez over Mosley
I said besides Mayweather AND F*CKING MIDDLEWEIGHTS!! Oh yea, I'm not talking about Mosley, you are. Mosley fight isn't the best available, I acknowledge that...but I still think he beats Berto and Bradley but they (esp Bradley) would probably be a tougher fight for Pac solely due to his style.
This is that BS I'm talking about, all these "better opponents" are either 2 weight classes up or unproven at the elite level. Even the "washed up" fighters Pac has fought has competed at the elite level, who the hell has Berto or Bradley beat that comes close to even the faded Zab Clottey beat?
GTFOH, best in their division and tougher fights than the alternatives (Bradley, Berto) but they weren't the best available? I get that argument with Mosley but name me one guy not named Mayweather that would really be a tougher fight than Cotto, Clottey or Margarito at WW.
There were better alternatives, thus you're wrong.
Mayweather over Clottey
Williams/Martinez/Berto over Margarito
Berto/Bradley/Martinez over Mosley
That's nice. But they still weren't the best available opponents and they definitely didn't belong on PPV and they were, for all intent purposes, mediocre choices.
GTFOH, best in their division and tougher fights than the alternatives (Bradley, Berto) but they weren't the best available? I get that argument with Mosley but name me one guy not named Mayweather that would really be a tougher fight than Cotto, Clottey or Margarito at WW.
The fact that all these fights did $700k+ buys is proof they belonged on PPV.
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Don't be scared of losing homeboy. You think Floyd is scared of losing? Just look at Manny "Talk to my promoter" Pacquiao.
Hmm. Retard. What about Floyd “WE don’t know, WE don’t know ! We’ll talk it over with Richard Schaefer and talk it over with my team and see what THEY come up with.”
DLH won meaningful fights up until 147. Clottey isn't in the same stratosphere.
You hate on ALL Ghanaian boxers! You have no credibility when talking about Clottey!
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So your basically saying he's DLH minus the fans?!? Dude is not garbage, he is a damn good gatekeeper.
FFS these guys piss me off. Here we're talking about guys who maybe only 3-5 people IN THE F*CKING WORLD can beat and these fools are calling them garbage.
DLH won meaningful fights up until 147. Clottey isn't in the same stratosphere.
clottey is garbage. he doesnt win meaningful fights.
and op, you should have named your thread. the irony of being a pactard. top prank hit the nail on the head. why are you worried about floyd when you arent a fan. i bet uou are one.of the haters so liked his fb and you go on there posting hate comment on his status updates
So your basically saying he's DLH minus the fans?!? Dude is not garbage, he is a damn good gatekeeper.
FFS these guys piss me off. Here we're talking about guys who maybe only 3-5 people IN THE F*CKING WORLD can beat and these fools are calling them garbage.
Yeah, but the Mosley fight was two years ago. So again, he was not a top five welter when Manny fought him.
Your right, but aside from Pac or Floyd, tell me what WW's could beat him today.
Mosley is the only one I got. Still think he'll beat Clottey, Cotto...Berto will fall then who the hell else is there? After these guys there's a pretty large drop in talent.
That's nice. But they still weren't the best available opponents and they definitely didn't belong on PPV and they were, for all intent purposes, mediocre choices.
I don't care about a Pacquiao fight anymore. If it happens, great. I just want to see Floyd in the ring with someone, anyone! Either that or officially retire.