Will more fighters step up to the plate and fight Paul Williams now?

BTW, any sign of Burner yet since the fight?

Boxing fans, or boxing idiots, say Williams was exposed of having a glass chin, that he's overrated, that he's never been a top P4P fighter. His chis was destroyed and it won't be the same, also he WAS overrated by some people thinking that he was this incredible beast of boxing. He did deserve to be in the P4P but at max 8 or so. Not like some people had him to be, plus he was a multidivision belt holder So will fighters think the same as the "fans" and fight Williams now? He's still not marketable and after fighting at higher weights for a while, going back down to 147 WILL make him weaker IMO, I doubt it. He's still The Punisher and he will still be avoided from 147-160. Martinez is a good fighter, and dumb asses are making his win look like it was nothing, thinking they're doing Martinez any good favors. Give Williams credit for being a good fighter, and give Martinez credit for beating a good fighter. Stop saying some one got exposed or was overrated. at 160 he's not a thread, maybe at 154 but he should avoid people like Angulo for a while and get at least 2 easy fights. At 147, don't bother since boxers aren't afraid of him, he's just not marketable and with the KO he just got, he won't get in there with any big names. Martinez' credit goes to the fact that he DESTROYED Pwill the way he did since most expected a war and a late ko-dcn by Martinez but he showed they aren't in the same level.

You know you're kidding yourself with that comment, that first fight was a really close fight that I gave to Williams. Close fight, yes. Martinez definitely gave better than he got, though. I dont see how anyone could argue that.

At 147 i would say probably not but at 154-160 i think most of the up and coming guys will be gunning for Williams now. Agreed. At 147 he is too damn big. 154 and 160 I think he can get plenty of fights. Youngster up and comers like Vanes Martirosyan and Erislandy Lara would jump at a chance to fight him. Im sure Pirog would love an opportunity to fight him. Cintron probably wants a rematch. Williams has always had terrible defense and he just got knocked out cold. Expect more prime, self confident fighters to be looking for him.

If you scored that fight for Williams, you don't know how to score fights. No offense. Cotto wrecked Quintana, again, no offense. Martinez is closer in size too all those guys than Williams is. 5'10 vs. 6'2?? Again, no offense. The only thing wrong with that fight was the 119-110 scorecard. Williams rightfully won that fight.You score fights with too much biasness towards your favorite fighter that's why you can't seem to score a fight right. You think height matters now!? :lol1: So Corrales was nothing but a coward because he was 5'11" fighting at 130? The 80s-90s Heavyweights sucked because they were getting their ass kicked by a 5'11" Mike Tyson? Arthur Abraham at 5' 10" doesn't belong in 168 then, he should fight welterweights? You crack me up Jack. You're beliefs are so over the top, it just becomes comedy. Size is no height, get that straight. Martinez is a Middleweight and wants welterweights to come up to fight him. Williams is going down to their best weight to fight them.

Boxing fans, or boxing idiots, say Williams was exposed of having a glass chin, that he's overrated, that he's never been a top P4P fighter. So will fighters think the same as the "fans" and fight Williams now? IMO, I doubt it. He's still The Punisher and he will still be avoided from 147-160. Martinez is a good fighter, and dumb asses are making his win look like it was nothing, thinking they're doing Martinez any good favors. Give Williams credit for being a good fighter, and give Martinez credit for beating a good fighter. Stop saying some one got exposed or was overrated. I don't think so. He would struggle more to get fights... or increase his value.

You know you're kidding yourself with that comment, that first fight was a really close fight that I gave to Williams. Cotto beat Quintana by TKO in the 5th but you obviously didn't see the fight because it was not easy. Quintana was giving Cotto problems before getting stopped. Williams will go back to 147 to pick on midgets? Really, that's why Martinez is waiting to hear offers from those very midgets. Saying he'd knock out Pacquiao and saying he wants to fight him at 154, saying he'd decision Mayweather lol. Why doesn't he say "I would like to fight Felix Sturm"? or why doesn't he go up to 168 and fight Lucian Bute since he's such an A+ fighter? He wants Mayweather and Pacquiao to come up 7lbs to 154 right? why doesn't he go up 8lbs to 168? lol. If you scored that fight for Williams, you don't know how to score fights. No offense. Cotto wrecked Quintana, again, no offense. Martinez is closer in size too all those guys than Williams is. 5'10 vs. 6'2?? Again, no offense.

It's hard for me to really respect Williams and put him in the top 10 P4P after that stuff he tried to pull with the catch weight and now going back down to 147 to fight guys ridiculously smaller than him. At least Pac wins all of his catch weight fights. Lol. What's worse, draining yourself to fight these "smaller guys" or asking these "smaller guys" to come up in weight so you can fight them?

Martinez is an A level fighter that I had abusing Williams in the first fight and destroying in the second fight. That's how an A fighter deals with a C+ fighter like Williams. Martinez also whooped Pavlik and knocked out Cintron, something Williams was unable to do. Martinez would also never lose to a second rate journeyman like Quintana, who Cotto destroyed with ease and even Berto, who sucks imo, was able to stop. I'm sure Williams will go back to 47' where he can pick on midgets. I'll bet Winky Wright feels pretty stupid right about now. You know you're kidding yourself with that comment, that first fight was a really close fight that I gave to Williams. Cotto beat Quintana by TKO in the 5th but you obviously didn't see the fight because it was not easy. Quintana was giving Cotto problems before getting stopped. Williams will go back to 147 to pick on midgets? Really, that's why Martinez is waiting to hear offers from those very midgets. Saying he'd knock out Pacquiao and saying he wants to fight him at 154, saying he'd decision Mayweather lol. Why doesn't he say "I would like to fight Felix Sturm"? or why doesn't he go up to 168 and fight Lucian Bute since he's such an A+ fighter? He wants Mayweather and Pacquiao to come up 7lbs to 154 right? why doesn't he go up 8lbs to 168? lol.

It's hard for me to really respect Williams and put him in the top 10 P4P after that stuff he tried to pull with the catch weight and now going back down to 147 to fight guys ridiculously smaller than him. At least Pac wins all of his catch weight fights. Lol.

i think so. i think hbo/showtime are still gonna show his fights and he's still a good name to have on your resume. he's always looked vulnerable imo and after being knocked out like that i think you'll see some guys calling him out. i'd like to see angulo and williams fight

So you're saying that Martinez is overrated and should not be in the top 3 P4P list since he just beat a bum right? So Martinez is really not that good to begin with then. If he fights a true P4P fighter with a good chin, then he won't be able to win, right? Martinez is a B level fighter beating on C level fighters? Martinez is an A level fighter that I had abusing Williams in the first fight and destroying in the second fight. That's how an A fighter deals with a C+ fighter like Williams. Martinez also whooped Pavlik and knocked out Cintron, something Williams was unable to do. Martinez would also never lose to a second rate journeyman like Quintana, who Cotto destroyed with ease and even Berto, who sucks imo, was able to stop. I'm sure Williams will go back to 47' where he can pick on midgets. I'll bet Winky Wright feels pretty stupid right about now.

:booty: Pac has vicious body shots. He drops Pwill's overrated ass with a straight left to the body and then delivers the manila ice to drop pwill hatton style in two or three rounds. I don't know if you're serious or not, but this is not about Pacquiao and you're saying some stupid things. If you're going to joke around, go to the lounge or something.

He was exposed and was overrated. This rematch wouldn't have been needed if the judges watched the same fight most people watched the first time around. Or if the judges didn't rob Cintron of every round. Williams should have 4 losses right now if boxing was a fair sport. Any guy who loses to Quintana is overrated, look at Joel Julio ffs. But if Joel Julio had Al Haymon and HBO behind him, we'd all be here making excuses as to why he's not "really" overrated. :lol1: So you're saying that Martinez is overrated and should not be in the top 3 P4P list since he just beat a bum right? So Martinez is really not that good to begin with then. If he fights a true P4P fighter with a good chin, then he won't be able to win, right? Martinez is a B level fighter beating on C level fighters?

no because truthfully he was overrated, had a glass chin, and was never really a top fighter. And this is coming from a real fan. Pwill gets KO'D by Pacquiao in 2rounds tops. Sure you are and sure he does.

Paul Williams and Celestino Caballero, as avoided fighters... both myths. Both are still overrated, though. Caballero doesn't get hit as much as Williams does.

probs not..

Paul Williams and Celestino Caballero, as avoided fighters... both myths. Both are still overrated, though.

I used to think Williams was an elite fighter, but I'm pretty much over the hype now. Look at what Goosen is going to have him do. He's sending him down to 147 to fight guys who he'll tower over and where guys won't be able to reach his chin. If he makes the weight fine, but I think they are trying to mask the fact that he doesn't have the talent to compete at the weight class he originally started fighting at when he began his career which was 160. To be fair to Paul, I think he could maybe beat a guy like Dzinziruk because he isn't really a power puncher. But anybody who can take what Williams dishes out and has the ability to hurt him will put him to sleep like Martinez did. Real talk. And even if Williams can beat a guy like Dzinziruk, how can we find out when he's moving down to 147? That's a no man's land unless you consider Berto to be that good which I and a lot of other people don't. Long post but just had to get all that out there to give my two cents in this thread.

Might be just what he needed ,was to be ko'd