Just in the round and a half that last night's fight lasted, I kept hearing how Williams was doing all the right things and actually winning the fight. This concerns me from a judging standpoint. No, he was not winning. Just like against Martinez the first time and against Cintron, he was throwing a ton of punches without much steam on them and somehow winning the fight.
Truth is in all three fights, he was leaving himself open a lot and getting tagged with the better, cleaner, and more powerful punches. There was a reason the crowd was erupting for every Martinez shot. He was putting his weight in his punches and landing the much more effective punches. A lot of people may have had Williams winning at the time of the stoppage, but to me that is just not right. How can you be winning just by scoring a lot of do nothing punches, while the other guy is landing great shots.
Even Manny Steward thought he was winning and that the fight was going his way. Am I blind? Or are people just mesmerized by the amount of punches Williams throws?
Again, it's mainly Kellerman and Steward who do that stuff. Lampley is guilty of course, but he generally keeps it real and calls it like it is, and Merchant is so old and crotchety he just craps on everyone nowadays.
But it's no secret that Kellerman and Steward are gay for Williams, as I stated before, watch the fight again and listen 10 seconds into the fight when Steward says that Williams has already thrown Martinez's gameplan off, or the first fight when he says Martinez isn't "street tough" like Williams.
Those two are so biased towards the fighters they like that they didn't even give full credit for what Martinez did, Steward called it like it was a lucky punch. This is boxing, there's no such thing as a lucky punch.
Just in the round and a half that last night's fight lasted, I kept hearing how Williams was doing all the right things and actually winning the fight. This concerns me from a judging standpoint. No, he was not winning. Just like against Martinez the first time and against Cintron, he was throwing a ton of punches without much steam on them and somehow winning the fight.
Truth is in all three fights, he was leaving himself open a lot and getting tagged with the better, cleaner, and more powerful punches. There was a reason the crowd was erupting for every Martinez shot. He was putting his weight in his punches and landing the much more effective punches. A lot of people may have had Williams winning at the time of the stoppage, but to me that is just not right. How can you be winning just by scoring a lot of do nothing punches, while the other guy is landing great shots.
Even Manny Steward thought he was winning and that the fight was going his way. Am I blind? Or are people just mesmerized by the amount of punches Williams throws?
They clearly had an agenda with Williams and it's name is AL HBO HAYMON. So glad to be rid of that ugly basterd wiliams
They love hyping up pressure fighters. Not just Williams. Go listen to the PAC vs marg. Manny was all on marg d1ck.
cause pressure fighters make fights exciting. if marg/pwill started running from pac/martinez or covered up like clottey, it would've been a boring as fight.
Sergio was bombing Paul's body in the first round and hit him with some hard head shots. Paul was going Calzaghe on Sergio though. I scored the first 10-10
10-9 is how you're supposed to score a round.
Williams lost every second of every round.
nah, pwill was doing fine in the 1st round. martinez didn't increase his output until the 2nd round
HBO has their guys... like Berto, Pavlik, Judah, Arreola that they just decide to get behind. God knows why.
cause these guys are supposed to be good.
Steward also was talking about how good Pavlik was doing in the early rounds against Martinez. yeah **** right, he lost all the early rounds.
pavlik wasn't getting whitewashed. he had moderate success until he got cut.
HBO commentators are paid to hype up guys. They obviously thought Williams would win. They do this for multiple HBO fighters who they want to be stars. Daniel Jacobs, Andre Berto, Manny Pacquiao etcetc.
you forgot wifebeater jr.
Just in the round and a half that last night's fight lasted, I kept hearing how Williams was doing all the right things and actually winning the fight.
pwill probably took the first round. he was a lot busier
This concerns me from a judging standpoint. No, he was not winning. Just like against Martinez the first time and against Cintron, he was throwing a ton of punches without much steam on them and somehow winning the fight.
1) he lost to cintron the first time
2) s-mart/pwill I was a close fight
Truth is in all three fights, he was leaving himself open a lot and getting tagged with the better, cleaner, and more powerful punches.
nah.
cintron probably doesn't punch as hard as s-mart or pwill.
s-mart didn't put as much mustard in his punches in the first fight... probably cause he only had 2 weeks notice to fight pwill and was weary of his stamina.
There was a reason the crowd was erupting for every Martinez shot. He was putting his weight in his punches and landing the much more effective punches.
definitely in the rematch, this was the case.
A lot of people may have had Williams winning at the time of the stoppage, but to me that is just not right. How can you be winning just by scoring a lot of do nothing punches, while the other guy is landing great shots.
if you get hit with a shiit load of arm punches it's about as much damage as a few great shots. what martinez did was increase his output instead of moving like in the first fight.
Even Manny Steward thought he was winning and that the fight was going his way.
there was only 1 round to really judge and pwill probably won it.
Am I blind? Or are people just mesmerized by the amount of punches Williams throws?
nobody likes potshotters. they're boring.
the bias was very evident
i remember a sequence in the first round where Williams and Martinez had an exchange in which Williams didn't really land while Martinez placed two perfect right hands on Williams' noggin
and what do the HBO guys say?
"Williams is beginning to take over' or something to that effect
and WTF is it with Mex Kellerman's lispy ass working two fights in a row
where is Larry Merchant goddamit! :grr:
Agree on all counts. I am missing Larry's ridiculous tangents.
I have had Williams losing every fight since Winky on the cards. The all-arm punches just don't do it for me I guess. I prefer to see guys putting their weight behind it and actually doing damage. I guess in the end, the result proved everything I already knew.
Poor Williams by the way. That must've hurt.
Sergio was bombing Paul's body in the first round and hit him with some hard head shots. Paul was going Calzaghe on Sergio though. I scored the first 10-10
Williams lost every second of every round.
HBO has their guys... like Berto, Pavlik, Judah, Arreola that they just decide to get behind. God knows why.
Steward also was talking about how good Pavlik was doing in the early rounds against Martinez. yeah **** right, he lost all the early rounds.
HBO commentators are paid to hype up guys. They obviously thought Williams would win. They do this for multiple HBO fighters who they want to be stars. Daniel Jacobs, Andre Berto, Manny Pacquiao etcetc.