Marquez landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Cotto landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Margarito landed 229 punches on Pacquiao
Clottey landed 108 punches on Pacquiao....And we know Clottey didnt even let his hands go properly
Not a good sign at all, these guys are not accurate punchers compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr.
What I also noticed is Pacquiao had trouble with a moving target with counter punching ability such as Marquez...Pacquiao threw 600 something punches and landed 153 punches on Marquez compared to the 172 Marquez landed on him...Not a good sign at all if he faces Floyd.
Just proves you can throw 1000 of punches and land often on a punching bag or a fighter who does not have good mobility, who does not use the ring properly, who does not use his legs and move around...such as Margarito.
But when you have a fighter who doesnt use his face as a punching bag, who moves around the ring while also counter punching pacquiao, whose punches arent predictable, then pacquiao cant really throw or land much because you cant throw punches and land on something that is not there, that is not a stationary target.
Even Cotto has a poor defense, and isnt on the level of Floyd or Marquez in counter punching or ring mobility.
I think Freddie Roach has been very clever in the recent match making of Pacquiao along with his catch-weight, mind games and tactics to weaken fighters, whether physically or mentally, but the match making has played a good part as well, styles make fights.
when you throw punches you are easier to hit, dude
that's litterally boxing 101
we should enlist a rule here
if you havnt been hit in the head before you cannot post
if you line up and let one of us hit you (hard)
then you can start as one of our *****es and work your way up, while actually learning about boxing instead of just repeating what you hear from idiots on this forum
of course pacquiao gets hit a lot more than mayweather
the dude is an offensive machine who takes risks to damage opponetns
mayweather fights conservatively at best
and to stink the place out at his worst
he's looking to score points
The problem I have with the camp/Arum they keep matching him up with fighters he does well against. The type that are offensive-in-your-face-hit-me kinda guys (except clottey). Where is the preperations to ever fight Floyd in terms of math up styles. I think the last technically sound and defensive boxer in Pacs record was Marquez and as a style match-up it was the worst style to face
Having said that pac has come a long way. If he faught marquez now at 147 or 140 I would pick pac to win. Against floyd i still don't know given my point above.
The way I see it, the fact that Pac gets hit a bit too much is a major factor. The best argument in Pacs case is his unique offense which works well toe-to-toe and have to admit he's good at it, even coming in and out throwing a bunch of combos. But can he bring the same style mentally which he has been using against offensive fighters into a fight with Floyd? As much as i like Pac, I can't see it at the mo until he gets it on with a fighter similar to Mayweather and possibly base a decision on that.
you still living in the past against Marquez who he fought in his best division. let see Marquez fighting Manny in his best division and see whats going to happen. its like you FLOMOS are saying FLoyds best weight was superfeatherweight and Lighweight. Manny's best weight is around welterweight(145 lbs). Manny will put JMM in coma. imagine Manny will outweigh his opponent?
Marquez landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Cotto landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Margarito landed 229 punches on Pacquiao
Clottey landed 108 punches on Pacquiao....And we know Clottey didnt even let his hands go properly
Not a good sign at all, these guys are not accurate punchers compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr.
What I also noticed is Pacquiao had trouble with a moving target with counter punching ability such as Marquez...Pacquiao threw 600 something punches and landed 153 punches on Marquez compared to the 172 Marquez landed on him...Not a good sign at all if he faces Floyd.
Just proves you can throw 1000 of punches and land often on a punching bag or a fighter who does not have good mobility, who does not use the ring properly, who does not use his legs and move around...such as Margarito.
But when you have a fighter who doesnt use his face as a punching bag, who moves around the ring while also counter punching pacquiao, whose punches arent predictable, then pacquiao cant really throw or land much because you cant throw punches and land on something that is not there, that is not a stationary target.
Even Cotto has a poor defense, and isnt on the level of Floyd or Marquez in counter punching or ring mobility.
I think Freddie Roach has been very clever in the recent match making of Pacquiao along with his catch-weight, mind games and tactics to weaken fighters, whether physically or mentally, but the match making has played a good part as well, styles make fights.
I think you need to read this stuff from your boxing expert to enlighten you. You opinion holds nothing compare to this boxing expert. Please read...
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=440204
Marquez landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Cotto landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Margarito landed 229 punches on Pacquiao
Clottey landed 108 punches on Pacquiao....And we know Clottey didnt even let his hands go properly
Not a good sign at all, these guys are not accurate punchers compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr.
What I also noticed is Pacquiao had trouble with a moving target with counter punching ability such as Marquez...Pacquiao threw 600 something punches and landed 153 punches on Marquez compared to the 172 Marquez landed on him...Not a good sign at all if he faces Floyd.
Just proves you can throw 1000 of punches and land often on a punching bag or a fighter who does not have good mobility, who does not use the ring properly, who does not use his legs and move around...such as Margarito.
But when you have a fighter who doesnt use his face as a punching bag, who moves around the ring while also counter punching pacquiao, whose punches arent predictable, then pacquiao cant really throw or land much because you cant throw punches and land on something that is not there, that is not a stationary target.
Even Cotto has a poor defense, and isnt on the level of Floyd or Marquez in counter punching or ring mobility.
I think Freddie Roach has been very clever in the recent match making of Pacquiao along with his catch-weight, mind games and tactics to weaken fighters, whether physically or mentally, but the match making has played a good part as well, styles make fights.
Yup Pac get's hit a lot, that's why FLOYD is still asking for more BLOOD TEST, still on vacation!!
MAYWEATHER SR: I would agree to that fight if they had people from Little Floyd’s Camp in Pacquiao’s Camp for random, any time they desired, to check him out. Check him out. Give him a thorough check every time you go. The game is not looking up at all and I would advise my son, if he chooses not to fight anymore he’s got enough money to live the rest of his life. Leave the game alone. It ain’t worth it. You already proved yourself.
Boxing is all about blood test for the FLOMOS!!!
I wouldn't say Pac get's hit a lot, he does get hit but that's because he's aggressive, he comes to fight. You won't get hit if you don't get within distance and don't engage fighters.
Mayweather doesn't get hit as much because he's a slick fighter but also because he doesn't come forward, he's a counter puncher and just sits back and waits for you to come to him. That's why he wins so much but that's also why he isn't very exciting to watch to the avg fan.
Margarito is a punching bag, even you know this, so he doesnt really count as uses his face as his defense.
Marquez landed 172 on Pacquiao and Pacquiao landed 153 on Marquez
Cotto landed 172 on Pacquiao and Pacquio landed 336 on Cotto
Clottey landed 108 OUT OF 399 and Pacquiao landed 246 out of 1231 punches, now that is poor accuracy.
Shows Pacquiao is only accurate against punching bags or guys with poor defense.
We know Pacquiao has a good offense, so he will land, but the point is Pacquiao's defense is poor and that will be his downfall against Mayweather, he simply gets hit TOO MUCH. Even in the long term you will see this will affect Pacquiao more than Mayweather because of their styles.
but what do you expect? Pac, like you say is an offensive fighter, so he WILL always get hit. He throws alot of combos so obviously he will be open alot. When Pac gets hit, he doesn't always go in to a shell...he exchanges - but good thing he has chin. It's just how he fights. You can make the exact opposite point regarding Floyd - that he doesn't throw alot of punches coz he's always in defensive mode. Offense vs. Defense, plain and simple
Why only list how many Pac got hit with those fights? Try listing how many punches Pac landed on those opponents, then you'll see what getting hit "ALOT" really means, hater.
Margarito is a punching bag, even you know this, so he doesnt really count as uses his face as his defense.
Marquez landed 172 on Pacquiao and Pacquiao landed 153 on Marquez
Cotto landed 172 on Pacquiao and Pacquio landed 336 on Cotto
Clottey landed 108 OUT OF 399 and Pacquiao landed 246 out of 1231 punches, now that is poor accuracy.
Shows Pacquiao is only accurate against punching bags or guys with poor defense.
We know Pacquiao has a good offense, so he will land, but the point is Pacquiao's defense is poor and that will be his downfall against Mayweather, he simply gets hit TOO MUCH. Even in the long term you will see this will affect Pacquiao more than Mayweather because of their styles.
Well...you need to understand that he get hit because he like it, he enjoy to risk it and create drama and uncertainty to make entertaining fights, he loves exchanges, in fact he is the ultimate exciting fighting man in the planet.
The good thing is he has the skills and granite chin to back it up. Enjoy it while is last because Pacquiao is not forever.
This is news how?
Mayweather doesn't have a high punch output. & he has shown that he can get hit by slower opponents than Manny .
Pacquiao WILL get hit.. but it's not a question of whether Pacquiao gets hit or not.
It's a question of how well can Mayweather handle Pacquiao's punches when he hits back.
Marquez landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Cotto landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Margarito landed 229 punches on Pacquiao
Clottey landed 108 punches on Pacquiao....And we know Clottey didnt even let his hands go properly
Not a good sign at all, these guys are not accurate punchers compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr.
What I also noticed is Pacquiao had trouble with a moving target with counter punching ability such as Marquez...Pacquiao threw 600 something punches and landed 153 punches on Marquez compared to the 172 Marquez landed on him...Not a good sign at all if he faces Floyd.
Just proves you can throw 1000 of punches and land often on a punching bag or a fighter who does not have good mobility, who does not use the ring properly, who does not use his legs and move around...such as Margarito.
But when you have a fighter who doesnt use his face as a punching bag, who moves around the ring while also counter punching pacquiao, whose punches arent predictable, then pacquiao cant really throw or land much because you cant throw punches and land on something that is not there, that is not a stationary target.
Why only list how many Pac got hit with those fights? Try listing how many punches Pac landed on those opponents, then you'll see what getting hit "ALOT" really means, hater.
Marquez landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Cotto landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Margarito landed 229 punches on Pacquiao
Clottey landed 108 punches on Pacquiao....And we know Clottey didnt even let his hands go properly
Not a good sign at all, these guys are not accurate punchers compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr.
What I also noticed is Pacquiao had trouble with a moving target with counter punching ability such as Marquez...Pacquiao threw 600 something punches and landed 153 punches on Marquez compared to the 172 Marquez landed on him...Not a good sign at all if he faces Floyd.
Just proves you can throw 1000 of punches and land often on a punching bag or a fighter who does not have good mobility, who does not use the ring properly, who does not use his legs and move around...such as Margarito.
But when you have a fighter who doesnt use his face as a punching bag, who moves around the ring while also counter punching pacquiao, whose punches arent predictable, then pacquiao cant really throw or land much because you cant throw punches and land on something that is not there, that is not a stationary target.
Tell that to Mayweather so he can have some encouragement to fight this Pacquiao who "gets hit a LOT, Not a good sign!".