Why Caballero is not, calling out/willing to fight top FW's not name Lopez or Gamboa?? Why is he demanding to get pay a million dollars?? Before somebore say something, yes he did demaded that. He said he was willing to fight Lopez but they will have to pay him as Rafa Marquez got paid or atleast 50/50 with Juanma.
This guy biggest wins are Daniel Ponce De Leon(Juanma KO1), Sithchatchawal(not one reconizible name on his resume) and Steve Molitor(not one reconizible name on his resume). He got KTFO by Jose Rojas who cant crak a egg and UD by a very good fighting in Cordaba.
The guy went and disrespected Lopez begging for a fight and then price himself out. What better way for Juanma to get Caballero mad than just ingnoring him??? Caballero hasnt face nor beat a top FW yet, much less of the Caliber or Lopez or Gamboa. He has not pay his dues like peope try to claim. The guy talked his way to the big scene, he didnt fought his way.
People saying Lopez facing Caballero is a most are full of ****. Thats like saying Floyd vs Williams is a most, just because Williamsss is running his yap.
Now if John will fight Gamboa and Marquez and Rojas are injure the next logical choice is Caballero. With that said Caballero cant start asking for 50/50's nor million dollars to fight this guys, because he cant draw flies to **** and beggers can be choosers.
If after all Caballero is the only man available and they dont even talks with him or Dibella for a posible fight, then is a clear duck and Juanma should be shhitted on and call whatever names you like.
I guess winning two belts and earning the praise of all kinds of boxing scribes means nothing to you.
Never said that he was a bad fighter. But he doesn't have blinding speed or is a power puncher or has any special defense. Even his jab is average. He has height, reach, stamina, good chin and solid skills but he is nothing special
Caba should but at the same time it doesn't give Juanma nor Gamboa a pass to not fight the guy.
The should do whatever it takes to fight Caba.
If any fighter ever went to Puerto Rico and threw every insult in the book at Tito. Do you think Tito would act like he didn't know who he was? Hell know Tito would of done everything in his power to get him in the ring. Something that Juanma hasn't done yet. And, I like Juanma and I a fan of Juanma and I think he could beat Caba.
Juanma has to fight Caba, fight him next in Puerto Rico. Or fight right after Gamboa but fight him.
I agree with you but I am not sold on Juanma yet,i actually like Gamboa's skills and Vazquez jr better
When doesn't he predicted a JuanMa victory within 5?
JuanMa is very good, champ just thinks he's god or something.
I just want my 1 million points now.
I don't care what god he prays to.
I pwned jreckoning before, easily, he baises whos better between Cab and Marquez on how well they do against Juan Manuel Lopez, an obvious, stupid statement, how to determine who has a better record and who is a legend or not.
Juanma has no right to say Cab isnt a draw when he fights guys like Mtagwa and Luevano bottom line there is no argument there at all. I like Juanma and i like how he fights in the ring but theres no defending him with this bull**** excuse that nobody knows who cab is.
Cuz JuanMa's team ducked him when he had two belts at 122.
They could have fought to unify but no, JuanMa chose Medina, Lontchi, Penalosa, and Mtagwa.
:pat:
So at 26, you wanted him to unify all the belts, and become undisputed? Maybe he wanted to move up in weight.....
Caballero should had taken a deal when they offered him the fight since he was so confident that he was going to win. After that the sky would had been the limit.
But no he complains, ***** and moans. He will eventually get matched up with Lopez or Gamboa and lose. Neither guy will get credit for the win and they will say that Caballero was to old or unproven. Who is his biggest win or his most spectacular fight that he looked invincible?
Cause somebody bad mouths you doesn't mean you have to fight him. This is not middle school this is boxing. Let him fight himself into a position that fighters would have to fight him instead of him doing a Allen Green and running their mouth in how good they think they are.
Caballero gets hit too much and slaps half of his punches even when he is standing directly infront of his foe. His conditioning might take him late into the fight but I doubt he would make it to the end
I heard they were avoiding him. That's why. There were quite a few articles that said he was slowly taking over Paul Williams' spot as most avoided boxer.
I also love how you ignore the fact that I have no problem with Lopez facing Caba as a tune up.
Definitely not as a hyped up dream match with close odds, between two highly skilled warriors willing to lose it all... because it's not.
No you talking about skill that really doesn't mean better. Because, you have take styles and intangibles into effect. Which has nothing to do with skills.
In the 90's Ricardo Lopez was arguably the most skilled fighter of the decade. However, Roy Jones was the best fighter of the decade.
Do you see the difference?
The question wasn't who is more skilled, it was who was the better, so how can you say Luevano is better when he doesn't really have a win better than Ponce De Leon nor a win better than Molitor really.
Yet you continue with the question BS.
Luevano is a complete fighter that only lacks power. He can even take a punch. Caballero is full of holes. Holes I have already explained. You want to reduce it to ONLY comparing fights. I'm not for that. Not only that, you want to play D.A. and just ask, ask, ask in hope one mixes up and you can go "BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT YOU R CONTRADICTIN URSELF".
Your answer to how the system works is a joke. It's basically ignoring it and repeating yourself.
Really. Want to talk boxing? Good. Want to play high school "yo momma" kind of arguments... not with me.
Caballero hasn't lost since 2004. Let's pretend it was yesterday why don't we.
All he has done is travelled and one and beat PDL at least 3 years before JuanMa did. He wasted Molitor and Somsak when Somsak was hot and had just been in the fight of the year.
He is no bum. He dazzled on HBO and went all around the world to take belts.
You should want this fight so you can try to prove me wrong. :boxing:
Or is this gonna turn into a Mayweather type excuse, like oh he's so good he doesn't have to fight them cuz he will beat them.
Let JuanMa prove it in the ring.
That is exactly what this is turning into.
I answered with reason. If you want to play set up, like I said, I'm not letting you play DA.
If you want to say that Luevano does not have a better victory, go ahead and say it, no one is stopping you.
I'll answer the same thing.
No you talking about skill that really doesn't mean better. Because, you have take styles and intangibles into effect. Which has nothing to do with skills.
In the 90's Ricardo Lopez was arguably the most skilled fighter of the decade. However, Roy Jones was the best fighter of the decade.
Do you see the difference?
The question wasn't who is more skilled, it was who was the better, so how can you say Luevano is better when he doesn't really have a win better than Ponce De Leon nor a win better than Molitor really.
I thought the system worked like this:
1. Boxers train.
2. Promoters get them fight.
3. Boxers fight.
4. Promoter gets a cut for setting up the fight, some expenses, etc.
Apparently, in your system:
1. Boxers train.
2. Boxers look out for fights.
3. Boxers fight.
4. Promoters get a cut for.... well for booking the MGM Grand, maybe.
Only self-promoted fighters work that way.
Geat real.
No, you get real.
The promoter works for the boxer is not the other way around.
Caballero hasn't lost since 2004. Let's pretend it was yesterday why don't we.
All he has done is travelled and one and beat PDL at least 3 years before JuanMa did. He wasted Molitor and Somsak when Somsak was hot and had just been in the fight of the year.
He is no bum. He dazzled on HBO and went all around the world to take belts.
You should want this fight so you can try to prove me wrong. :boxing:
Or is this gonna turn into a Mayweather type excuse, like oh he's so good he doesn't have to fight them cuz he will beat them.
Let JuanMa prove it in the ring.
I have no problem with Juanma facing him as a tune-up. Because that's what he is, a tune up. I said it about a dozen posts ago. But let's agree to disagree.
If by the grace of the Allmighty, Caballero beats Juanma, I'll give YOU props.
I expect the same in return if Juanma spanks him.