Was the Super Six a Failure?

The tourney was set up right, and we were supposedly guaranteed goods fights. It was the failure of some of the boxers because they were injured and constantly delaying fights.

Lemme break this down. Under NO circumstances do we see: Abraham/Taylor Dirrell/Froch Ward/Kessler Dirrell/Abraham Froch/Kessler Ward/Green Abraham/Froch Johnson/Green Ward/Bika Plus potentially matches between Johnson, Froch, Abraham, and Ward. Under NO circumstances do we see that many relevant fights in one division over a year and a half without the tournament. It may have fallen short of expectations but christ....we get like 10 highly relevant fights in one division in 18 months and we're complaining. When does that EVER happen? I can't agree more, the supersix tounament put the supermiddle weight division back on the map. The potential still left in the tournament can still accomplish more for the sport. Ward/Bika Abraham/Froch Green/Johnson Ward vs Abraham/Froch will be a classic. Either way it unfolds the division can live on for along time.

Sure it brought us some good match-ups, but overall nothing spectacular, except for the KTFO of JT? It was a great idea on paper, but what was promised at the start of this thing, as the Super Six, has now turned into this: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3606/39828237.jpg It will all be worth it once we get to see Froch vs AA. :boxing:

If you want some sort of silver lining yes, but as a "Boxing classic tourney" its an abject failure. Lol, Ward is fighing another replacement in Oakland who doesn't even belong in the tourney and the fight itself is not recognized by the tournament. So what if he loses? Does he still fight the winner of AA/Froch? And if he wins? Does he really deserve to fight that winner? Those guys fought all 3 fighters in the original 6 while Ward fought 1 of the originals, 2 crap replacements AND ALL IN OAKLAND. How is that even fair? Bika was being considered for joining the tourney when Taylor needed a replacement and after Allan Green's showing, may have been a good idea had they went through with Bika.

How could I forget this? What kind of tournament takes 2 years to complete... smh.. I don't mind the point system, but it should've been rigged to where guys fought every 3 months. Don't give me that **** about them needing more time. If the old timers could fight 2 times a month, these guys could knock this tourney out in a year. The old timers weren't fighting elite competition twice a month. Though I don't disagree with you on having each fighter only having three months in between events. Besides, it would only be temporary and for the sake of finishing the tourney, so I get that.

Overall, no. When Kessler was taken out and Johnson was made as a replacement pretty much signified that failure of the actual tournament was inevitable. Replacing Taylor was pretty bad, but having to replace two guys just throws the tournament out of whack. Dirrell dropping out was just the nail in the coffin. In the end, you could argue it was a failure due to not finishing as planned. But on the bright side, we got a lot of great fights out of the Super Six and it gave Ward a chance to shine. We still have Froch and Abraham fight to look forward to. They should just fight for the right to challenge Ward. That is the most simple solution. That way we don't have to see Ward vs. Glen Johnson, lol.

It should be and I am hoping Froch confirms what I have suspected about AA for some time. That he's a powerhouse?

Then stop thinking of it as a boxing classic or as a tourney at all and just think of it as being better than what we would have gotten otherwise which is Ward vs insert bum to make him look good. Bika is a top 10 SMW regardless of what anyone thinks of him. So yes as a divisional tourney its a fail but the division and boxing as a whole is better for it happening I think than without. I'm just answering the thread question as a "Super Six" its a failure. We got some matchups from Froch, Kessler and AA that we probably wouldn't have gotten otherwise, so in that regard, I"m down with it. AA/Froch has foty potential imo.

While some of the thing you say are true, the fights we had already are much better than the participants just fighting club fighters and journeymen instead of each other which is what most likely would have happened if this didn't. Yeah and Bute not being involved at this point disqualifies it from being any sort of proving ground for who the best SMW is though. If you want some sort of silver lining yes, but as a "Boxing classic tourney" its an abject failure. Lol, Ward is fighing another replacement in Oakland who doesn't even belong in the tourney and the fight itself is not recognized by the tournament. So what if he loses? Does he still fight the winner of AA/Froch? And if he wins? Does he really deserve to fight that winner? Those guys fought all 3 fighters in the original 6 while Ward fought 1 of the originals, 2 crap replacements AND ALL IN OAKLAND. How is that even fair?

How could I forget this? What kind of tournament takes 2 years to complete... smh.. I don't mind the point system, but it should've been rigged to where guys fought every 3 months. Don't give me that **** about them needing more time. If the old timers could fight 2 times a month, these guys could knock this tourney out in a year. That was the main thing for me Sect...Sh*t took way to long between fights.

In my eye's, yes it was...I was hyped about it at first, but it was drawn out way to long. Should have been single elimination, and the venues should have all been neutral. Then again, the venues didn't really matter...There should have neverbeen a stupid point system. You win, you move on. You lose, you go home. Simple, and it would have taken far less time. How could I forget this? What kind of tournament takes 2 years to complete... smh.. I don't mind the point system, but it should've been rigged to where guys fought every 3 months. Don't give me that **** about them needing more time. If the old timers could fight 2 times a month, these guys could knock this tourney out in a year.

In my eye's, yes it was...I was hyped about it at first, but it was drawn out way to long. Should have been single elimination, and the venues should have all been neutral. Then again, the venues didn't really matter...There should have neverbeen a stupid point system. You win, you move on. You lose, you go home. Simple, and it would have taken far less time.

How can you not see it as a failure? It was a systemic failure in every way. 1)They didn't invite the best guy (Bute) 2)They gave Ward all his fights in Oakland 3)Taylor punked out after 1 fight. 4)Dirrell and Ward punked out cuz' they're butt buddies 5)The tournament has fallen apart 6)Green and Johnson got invited If this happened in any real sport, the league would go broke. :lol1: FAILURE.

Bute is the king of 168lbs. He is head and shoulder ahead of anybody else. Ward won't win against Bute even if its in Oakland. I want to see Bute against AA or Andre Ward. Dirrell would get murk and Pavlik isn't anywhere strong enough to keep up with Bute. But in March we will probably see Pavlik vs Bute. Bute should jump into the tourney.

Bute is the king of 168lbs. He is head and shoulder ahead of anybody else. Ward won't win against Bute even if its in Oakland. I want to see Bute against AA or Andre Ward. Dirrell would get murk and Pavlik isn't anywhere strong enough to keep up with Bute. But in March we will probably see Pavlik vs Bute.

NOT NECESSARILY! Because now you have other divisions doing a Tournament so I think it started something POSITIVE IN BOXING, unfortunately it hasn't gone Smoothly but Ward, Abraham and Froch are still in it so it could possibly end on a positive note

with who getting decked? AA I hope lol Big froch fan

Froch-AA will be KO of the year with who getting decked?

Froch-AA will be KO of the year

The only disappointment is that this tournament didn't reach the casual fans. Showtime tried with their excellent countdown shows, but they have a limited budget. However, lazy promoters like Shaw, Dibella and Gossen did jack sh1t and a special mention for Hennessy who managed to seclude Froch to small time PPVs in the UK...so typical. Maybe they did a better job in Denmark & Germany.