ivan was used for the floyd fight to help with the elsuiveness of floyd. valero and ortiz was used for the manny fight. oscar was getting beat by all 3. oscar couldnt touch ivan and valero busted oscar up. even his strength coach talked about it.
and valero was being brought up to either face manny next year or to be his sucessor.
valero only signed with top rank wth a promise to fght manny.
Calderon sparred with Oscar for the Mayweather fight.
For the Pac fight, it was either Valero or Ortiz, or both of them who roughed up De La Hoya depending on who you ask.
Errrr, no. Calderon was for the Pac fight. Southpaw etc. You know? They used Steve Forbes for Mayweather.
Your the one that is wrong, theres even a ****ing quote from Roch in this thread saying they use Calderon for speed, when they were training to fight Floyd
I know that's what Roach said when the DLH/Manny fight came about, because when DLH was training for Floyd they wanted a slick boxer smaller in stature and Ivan fit the bill.
The end result was DLH getting his ears boxed off according to Roach and his people...
There was all this BS from Roach in the lead up to the Manny fight. All BS though. Roach was vengeful by that time of Oscar.
oscar and floyd are the biggest jokes in boxing in the last ten years. oscar getting outboxed by calderon.....HAHAHAHHAHAHHAH and I thought it could get any worse for the fishnet, wig and panty wearing tranny lmao
and when i thought it couldnt get any worse for floyd he get charged with 8 counts (some felonys) and its gonna get locked up in the prime of his career lmao, dont forget the ky gel floyd!
I'm gonna ask the mods to close this thread even though I personally created it. Too much Puerto Rican nuthugging in it.
lmao!!!!!!
You're still the king Iceta.
Man that just makes Floyd's win over de la hoya look even worse if a lil midget was knocking his ass around ... LMAO
How horrible. Hoya is DONE
Prime Calderon was no joke, if he was atleast 135 pounds he would had made Pac look like a clown
My god.for the 6582586 time calderon boxed oscars ears off.he was mummed.ppl forget that in sparring those boxers don't weigh what they do fight night.re re's
Here's a link and direct quote from Roach's blog:
http://www.ringtv.com/blog/33/freddie_roach_blog/
Nov. 16, 2008
At first, I thought putting this fight together would be impossible because Manny and Oscar were in different weight classes. Then I started thinking about it. After I trained Oscar, I realized he had trouble with smaller guys and southpaws. Oscar sparred with Ivan Calderon, the former 105-pound champion, when I trained him for the Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight because I wanted someone real quick. Calderon slapped Oscar around like it was unbelievable. I said between rounds one time, “Oscar, I want you to hit him one shot to show him who’s boss.” He couldn’t do it. I got mad at him. I told him the same thing another time; we used Calderon for a couple of days. I said, “Go ahead and hit that little mother.” Again, he couldn’t do it. Calderon was too quick and had a southpaw stance, like Manny does. That’s when I thought of Manny. I knew then it was a winnable fight.
People love to exaggerate. All that was said about the DLH-Calderon sparring is that Oscar couldn't hit him. Calderon was too quick and he couldn't be caught. Nobody got beat up.
Victor Ortiz beat on Oscar for a bit before leaving camp early for unknown reasons. Valero then took his turn raping ODLH for about 8 rounds before being thrown out by the head trainer. According to Oscar's strength and conditioning coach, Valero destroyed him as bad as Pacquiao did in the actual fight. The only difference was the headgear and big sparring gloves.
This story comes from Roach and it allegedly happened while he was training Oscar to fight Floyd. Calderon probably made him look slow but I doubt that he really beat him up.
Roach was using this story to hype up Oscar-Pac.
Calderon is a little b*tch. Quit on his knee like a homo vs. Segura.
I'm gonna ask the mods to close this thread even though I personally created it. Too much Puerto Rican nuthugging in it.
Hey, this happend in 07 when Mosley came to PR to sparred with DLH and Calderon schooled both. Theres even a article in NSB where they ask Calderon about it.