Mayweather Promotions and "OST"

Pacquiao's camp proposed the cutoff date... so from there it just becomes testing right? If that's your argument than gee, it looks like Mayweather conceded OST testing to Pacquiao in the first negotiation and Pacquiao still didn't agree. If you want direct quotes, then you'd make a point that Mayweather requested "full random testing", not OST, but "full random testing" after he swept his compromise of meeting in the middle of Pacquiao's 30 day cutoff. I specifically remember Ellerbe stating they wanted Olympic Style Testing at the jump back in Nov. '09. If you can recall though, ever since cutoff dates were mentioned by Pacquiao's team, Mayweather's team, Tygart, and Conte have all emphasized random, random, testing. That's been the main goal in order to get this fight made. Your main point makes no sense here and it falters because Mayweather has participated in random testing himself. When you listened to Pacquiao and his team, the even call the style of testing requested from Mayweather, random. Is it okay for Mayweather to go away from OST? Of course, it's already been conceded when cutoff dates were proposed. Why is it wrong for Pacquiao to reject the style of testing? Pacquiao provides speculation in his responses and actions to what even his team calls, random testing. You're talking about OST, when Pacquiao, Arum, and Roach are talking about cutoff dates. Would you agree that Mayweather requesting random testing is meeting in the middle of OST and set, pre-informed dates of drug testing? Thanks for recognizing another concession was made by Mayweather, sign it. Why did Mayweather request random testing for this fight? Why hasn't he instituted it for his stable of fighters and anyone fighting on his cards? He has the money, he spends more at the clubs than this would cost. Why isn't he doing year round OST's now?

yea but thats only if commisions do it floyd aint paying for all of boxing to get tested Why doesn't he start with his own promotion; He spends more money on ipods FFS.

That alone makes the whole thing null and void. People can't just select when they want to be tested, which is exactly what the Mayweather camp is doing. People can't just select when they want to be tested People can't just select when they want to be tested People can't just select when they want to be tested So with that being said, Pacquiao has never agreed since he proposed cutoff dates. Awesome job, guy.

you don't get it ... These are NOT OST rules. Floyd fans say that Manny needs to follow OST rules as that is the only acceptable way to actually test an athlete. You can't only test and stop at 14 days or 7 days ...... right? Those are the rules. Once you stray from the rules then it becomes a negotiation and NOT OST rules. Right? So why is it that when Floyd strays from OST that it's OK but when Manny does it it's because of your points (a, b or c). Kind of doesn't make sense, right? So if you agree to the above then for Floyd to say 14 days or Manny to say 7 days is part of a negotiation and nothing more (not OST). So then stop complaining that Manny doesn't want to agree to OST ... since Floyd doesn't either. I said it in another thread that if Manny was on PEDs, I would be the first to discredit his accomplishments .... BUT you guys NEVER brought this up BEFORE Floyd brought it up nor do you have EVIDENCE. It's like you can't believe nor can Floyd's team believe that there are others that can have skills and dominate too. Pacquiao's camp proposed the cutoff date... so from there it just becomes testing right? If that's your argument than gee, it looks like Mayweather conceded OST testing to Pacquiao in the first negotiation and Pacquiao still didn't agree. If you want direct quotes, then you'd make a point that Mayweather requested "full random testing", not OST, but "full random testing" after he swept his compromise of meeting in the middle of Pacquiao's 30 day cutoff. I specifically remember Ellerbe stating they wanted Olympic Style Testing at the jump back in Nov. '09. If you can recall though, ever since cutoff dates were mentioned by Pacquiao's team, Mayweather's team, Tygart, and Conte have all emphasized random, random, testing. That's been the main goal in order to get this fight made. Your main point makes no sense here and it falters because Mayweather has participated in random testing himself. When you listened to Pacquiao and his team, the even call the style of testing requested from Mayweather, random. Is it okay for Mayweather to go away from OST? Of course, it's already been conceded when cutoff dates were proposed. Why is it wrong for Pacquiao to reject the style of testing? Pacquiao provides speculation in his responses and actions to what even his team calls, random testing. You're talking about OST, when Pacquiao, Arum, and Roach are talking about cutoff dates. Would you agree that Mayweather requesting random testing is meeting in the middle of OST and set, pre-informed dates of drug testing? Thanks for recognizing another concession was made by Mayweather, sign it.

funny that pacquiao has always agreed to testing, and floyd's sheep inbred blind followers keep preaching "HE DOESNT WANT TO DO TESTS". :rofl: now that 7 days apparently isn't good. i still honestly don't understand again why pacquiao should even agree to extra testing to begin with. just because someone felt like it? the biggest compromise is even agreeing to it. i mean you run your mouth saying you'll whoop a little midget for an easy night's work, then why not fight the damn midget? paint it the way you want but anyone with a brain knows this whole OSDT is a joke. funny how he goes on racist tirades yet no mention of drug testing. really pathetic when you go on vacation to duck a fight then run your mouth when the other guy signs a fight. I wouldnt be surprised if he'd prefer jailtime than risk getting beatdown. after all, he has his money and his 0 So if Pacquiao wants a 7 day cut off date and three days before the fight, there's a random test being administered to Pacquiao, he says no right? Good post.

I checked the Mayweather promotions website and there is no mention of sponsored testing for their stable of fighters. I don't get it wasn't it Floyd's mission to clean up the sport? Why wouldn't he start with his very own promotion. He's spent more money on watches, rings and "making it rain" in the clubs than this would cost. Why hasn't he done it? Floyd Mayweather, Dion Savage, Ouali Said and Jesse Vargas; all fighters under Mayweather promotions and none of them INCLUDING FLOYD do year round true OST testing. Somethings up here, what happened to Floyd's cause to clean up the sport that he loves? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OKpWfpNeHvI/TG1F_N0o6bI/AAAAAAAAB4g/4IPn0peE7HM/s1600/the_cake_is_a_lie.jpg

I understand that OST is year round, but from the onset, Ellerbe stated that wanted OST for that specific fight. That was made clear from the jump. They didn't say "we're participating in OST at all times." They were at least clear about that type of testing being used for the time period between what would have been the press tour, training, and after fight. Clearly, it didn't backfire because now there's speculation surrounding Pacquiao's most recent achievements and there' no escaping the fact that Pacquiao openly said no to random testing when athletes in the NFL and MLB aren't allowed to reject testing, and international competitors are obligated to test as well. As I stated before, OST is expensive. What makes you think that the Texas State Athletic Commission would want to pay for Keith Debow to participate in the USADA protocol. Mayweather's not the first to request random testing. Back in 2007, Zab Judah requested random testing of Shane Mosley but Mosley wouldn't agree to it. A couple weeks later, Judah injured his arm and pulled out of the fight. That alone makes the whole thing null and void. People can't just select when they want to be tested, which is exactly what the Mayweather camp is doing.

yea but thats only if commisions do it floyd aint paying for all of boxing to get tested Why doesn't he at least start with his own promotion! He spends more money at clubs and on ipods.

All of yall idiots for keep talking about this old ****. Let it go damn

I checked the Mayweather promotions website and there is no mention of sponsored testing for their stable of fighters. I don't get it wasn't it Floyd's mission to clean up the sport? Why wouldn't he start with his very own promotion. He's spent more money on watches, rings and "making it rain" in the clubs than this would cost. Why hasn't he done it? Floyd Mayweather, Dion Savage, Ouali Said and Jesse Vargas; all fighters under Mayweather promotions and none of them INCLUDING FLOYD do year round true OST testing. Somethings up here, what happened to Floyd's cause to clean up the sport that he loves? I posted this on another thread but it's relevant here: Exactly. If PBF was so concerned with cleaning up the sport of boxing he would be campaigning for OST across the whole of boxing and not when the biggest challenge of his career poses a threat. Why did he not have Marquez tested? And as for Pac - you're right, why should he bow down to PBF? He is after all, fighter of the decade. He's arguably as big a PPV attraction. And it's also arguable that his legacy is more secure than Floyds! Anyway...

Again, for the specific fight that was being negotiated, Mayweather requested OST. You're acting as if this was just brought upon Pacquiao. Mayweather is subjecting himself to the same testing that Manyy Pacquiao would be. Now when you state "14 days is good, 14 days is bad", you're leaving out the fact that Pacquiao stated that "30 days is good, 30 days is bad', first. Mayweather tried, I emphasize tried, because he compromised random testing for the sake of making the fight happen. He offered that as a final pitch. Pacquiao then stated, in your terms, "24 days is good, 24 days is bad." The deal was swiped from the table and would then be full random testing from there on. Now that Mayweather beat the brakes off Mosley and made it clear that full random testing is the deal take it or leave it, Pacquiao then says, "18 days is good, 18 days is bad." Now, now... in your terms, "14 days is good" for Pacquiao. That's not the deal though, it was swiped from the table, remember? In your terms, Pacquaio says "7 days is good, 7 days is bad..." Mayweather has been consistent throughout and at one point, made the most fair compromise even though it aided Pacquiao. I honestly find it pathetic that for anyone to defend Pacquiao on not agreeing to random testing just shows that either a.) You despise Mayweather, b.) You could care less if somebody is a dirty athlete, or c.) A & B. you don't get it ... These are NOT OST rules. Floyd fans say that Manny needs to follow OST rules as that is the only acceptable way to actually test an athlete. You can't only test and stop at 14 days or 7 days ...... right? Those are the rules. Once you stray from the rules then it becomes a negotiation and NOT OST rules. Right? So why is it that when Floyd strays from OST that it's OK but when Manny does it it's because of your points (a, b or c). Kind of doesn't make sense, right? So if you agree to the above then for Floyd to say 14 days or Manny to say 7 days is part of a negotiation and nothing more (not OST). So then stop complaining that Manny doesn't want to agree to OST ... since Floyd doesn't either. I said it in another thread that if Manny was on PEDs, I would be the first to discredit his accomplishments .... BUT you guys NEVER brought this up BEFORE Floyd brought it up nor do you have EVIDENCE. It's like you can't believe nor can Floyd's team believe that there are others that can have skills and dominate too.

funny that pacquiao has always agreed to testing, and floyd's sheep inbred blind followers keep preaching "HE DOESNT WANT TO DO TESTS". :rofl: now that 7 days apparently isn't good. i still honestly don't understand again why pacquiao should even agree to extra testing to begin with. just because someone felt like it? the biggest compromise is even agreeing to it. i mean you run your mouth saying you'll whoop a little midget for an easy night's work, then why not fight the damn midget? paint it the way you want but anyone with a brain knows this whole OSDT is a joke. funny how he goes on racist tirades yet no mention of drug testing. really pathetic when you go on vacation to duck a fight then run your mouth when the other guy signs a fight. I wouldnt be surprised if he'd prefer jailtime than risk getting beatdown. after all, he has his money and his 0

You guys always shoot yourselves in the foot. Either you do OST or you don't. If you don't expect to do it then you can't complain that Manny doesn't want to do OST ESPECIALLY when Floyd's team is admitting to not want to do it to. So like I stated a long long time ago, Floyd fans are complaining that Manny is not agreeing to FLoyd's rules not OST rules. and Floyd's rules are not set in stone so it's a moving target .... you know, 14 days is good, 14 days is bad .... Again, for the specific fight that was being negotiated, Mayweather requested OST. You're acting as if this was just brought upon Pacquiao. Mayweather is subjecting himself to the same testing that Manyy Pacquiao would be. Now when you state "14 days is good, 14 days is bad", you're leaving out the fact that Pacquiao stated that "30 days is good, 30 days is bad', first. Mayweather tried, I emphasize tried, because he compromised random testing for the sake of making the fight happen. He offered that as a final pitch. Pacquiao then stated, in your terms, "24 days is good, 24 days is bad." The deal was swiped from the table and would then be full random testing from there on. Now that Mayweather beat the brakes off Mosley and made it clear that full random testing is the deal take it or leave it, Pacquiao then says, "18 days is good, 18 days is bad." Now, now... in your terms, "14 days is good" for Pacquiao. That's not the deal though, it was swiped from the table, remember? In your terms, Pacquaio says "7 days is good, 7 days is bad..." Mayweather has been consistent throughout and at one point, made the most fair compromise even though it aided Pacquiao. I honestly find it pathetic that for anyone to defend Pacquiao on not agreeing to random testing just shows that either a.) You despise Mayweather, b.) You could care less if somebody is a dirty athlete, or c.) A & B.

I checked the Mayweather promotions website and there is no mention of sponsored testing for their stable of fighters. I don't get it wasn't it Floyd's mission to clean up the sport? Why wouldn't he start with his very own promotion. He's spent more money on watches, rings and "making it rain" in the clubs than this would cost. Why hasn't he done it? Floyd Mayweather, Dion Savage, Ouali Said and Jesse Vargas; all fighters under Mayweather promotions and none of them INCLUDING FLOYD do year round true OST testing. Somethings up here, what happened to Floyd's cause to clean up the sport that he loves? U guys take what Mayweather says too seriously like the guy actually thinks long term about what he says. And the fact that ur trying to use it against him makes the joke more on u... He does a fine job messing himself up, u touching on something that everyone already knows kinda just makes u seem obsessed.

This is where I think you guys are idiots. If mayweather never weighed over 147 then what is the problem? Also, if Pacquiao is a clean athlete, take the tests, what's the problem?

He just wants to make sure his opponents are clean. Especially dirty ones who lie to avoid the tests. And their dumb fans who make threads like this. It's sad... violins for the board.

I understand that OST is year round, but from the onset, Ellerbe stated that wanted OST for that specific fight. That was made clear from the jump. They didn't say "we're participating in OST at all times." They were at least clear about that type of testing being used for the time period between what would have been the press tour, training, and after fight. Clearly, it didn't backfire because now there's speculation surrounding Pacquiao's most recent achievements and there' no escaping the fact that Pacquiao openly said no to random testing when athletes in the NFL and MLB aren't allowed to reject testing, and international competitors are obligated to test as well. As I stated before, OST is expensive. What makes you think that the Texas State Athletic Commission would want to pay for Keith Debow to participate in the USADA protocol. Mayweather's not the first to request random testing. Back in 2007, Zab Judah requested random testing of Shane Mosley but Mosley wouldn't agree to it. A couple weeks later, Judah injured his arm and pulled out of the fight. You guys always shoot yourselves in the foot. Either you do OST or you don't. If you don't expect to do it then you can't complain that Manny doesn't want to do OST ESPECIALLY when Floyd's team is admitting to not want to do it to. So like I stated a long long time ago, Floyd fans are complaining that Manny is not agreeing to FLoyd's rules not OST rules. and Floyd's rules are not set in stone so it's a moving target .... you know, 14 days is good, 14 days is bad ....

This is where I think you guys are idiots. If mayweather never weighed over 147 then what is the problem? Then he would never have to pay the 10 million if he just simply does what he has to do. It is exactly the same if they said there is a 10 million dollar penalty if Floyd came in with no gloves. He is going to wear gloves anyway so he is not going to pay the 10 million either way. If somebody was going to pay me 30-50 mil and they said there is a 10 million dollar penalty if you wear a shirt, I ain't wearing a shirt anyway so pay me the 50 mil. Huh? Speaking of idiots, terrible analogy. Everybody's reasoning here, and most likely Pac's team as well because apparently you're all on the same level of reasoning (bricks), is that because Mayweather weighed in at '46 against Marquez, that he's going to do that to Pacquiao without that penalty. This is where you all die on this reasoning. If Pacquiao wanted the fight at '44, the $10 million penalty makes all the sense in the world because Mayweather was willing to dish out $300,000 per lb. easy. $10 million, not so much because he may have to force himself excessively to make '44. This is how Pacquiao's team works. So they want the fight at '47 and want to throw out an outrageous penalty at a weight that Mayweather has no past of failing to make, Mayweather agreed the next day... "let's fight." Enter; Pacquiao excuses in the boatloads.

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