Conclusion, If Haseg trades with Montiel he looses!
Not necessarily. While no punch in boxing is lucky, there are those punches that land in one particular spot that are once in a lifetime punches are won't be repeated. Breaking Haegawa's jaw was one of those shots which I highly doubt would be repeated. Hasegawa takes it to the later rounds and Montiel would also have been hit more, tired, less power etc etc.
So, by the later rounds he could probably takes his shots. Nonetheless, we will never actually know who does win until a rematch happens, hopefully soon.
All Hozumi has to do is fix that right hand guard and go in with the intention of out-boxing him instead of trading shots.
He could win comfortably like that. Specially if he fixes that right hand guard.
I'd say he it's more than just that. He does it witrh most of his puynches.
lol, so?
Would you trade with Montiel if you were a boxer? And how many people can legitimately trade with him in the first place?
43. 33 by KO. Really.. :lol1:
It's all about fighting your fight, not your opponent's fight.
If they fight again and the fight takes place anywhere but in Japan, Haseg looses....and Montiel will call the shots next. If they fight it will prob happen in Mex or in Vegas.
Outcome......Haseg looses again to Montiel!!!!!!!!!
I like Haseg bythe way!
Conclusion, If Haseg trades with Montiel he looses!
If Hasegawa does trade, he'll do it quick and go back to the game plan. Much like Tim Bradley does so. A lot of people think that just because a guy has power he automatically wins the trades.
That's why I said "if" not Hozumi will fix his right hand guard.
Fernando Montiel vs Jhonny Gonzalez. WBO Bantamweight title.
Jhonny came in 117.5lbs, Montiel came in 117lbs.
Montiel loss a Split Decision. 115-113 | 111-118 | 112-116
Nice Try.
i assumed you were referring to his recent title run rather than going back several years to his last official loss. anyway, other than his misstep against valdez, he's been on a tear lately and i dont see him slowing down.
people who dismiss montiel's win over hasegawa as a mere fluke arent giving him the credit he deserves. since when do the first three rounds of a fight guarantee any particular outcome
Conclusion, If Haseg trades with Montiel he looses!
lol, so?
Would you trade with Montiel if you were a boxer? And how many people can legitimately trade with him in the first place?
43. 33 by KO. Really.. :lol1:
It's all about fighting your fight, not your opponent's fight.
Well, funny but it should have been easy. Hasegawa fought a bizarre fight. usually he's very slow to start, outboxes his man, sees what the other guy has and starts to work and then only really goes for the KO later if he has his man hurt. He had been knocking out a lot of guys lately though, and so for some reason went barreling in all guns blazing!
He was vastly off his usual game plan and he paid big for it. Nonetheless, he was easily winning and had even hurt Montiel. Rematch: Hasegawa fights his normal fight, not trading but staying on top while countering and outboxing him using speed and combination punching. He wins.
Conclusion, If Haseg trades with Montiel he looses!
All Hozumi has to do is fix that right hand guard and go in with the intention of out-boxing him instead of trading shots.
He could win comfortably like that. Specially if he fixes that right hand guard.
You make it sound so easy.
Well, funny but it should have been easy. Hasegawa fought a bizarre fight. usually he's very slow to start, outboxes his man, sees what the other guy has and starts to work and then only really goes for the KO later if he has his man hurt. He had been knocking out a lot of guys lately though, and so for some reason went barreling in all guns blazing!
He was vastly off his usual game plan and he paid big for it. Nonetheless, he was easily winning and had even hurt Montiel. Rematch: Hasegawa fights his normal fight, not trading but staying on top while countering and outboxing him using speed and combination punching. He wins.
I hope donaire doesn't move up in weightto 122 after the montiel fight. I think abner mares poses a serious threat and has a good chance of beating donaire. 118 is deep.
You make it sound so easy.
That's why I said "if" not Hozumi will fix his right hand guard.
nope, the fight you're referring to was technically above 118 in a non title bout so your statement fails.
also, montiel would break hasegawa's jaw again in a rematch
Fernando Montiel vs Jhonny Gonzalez. WBO Bantamweight title.
Jhonny came in 117.5lbs, Montiel came in 117lbs.
Montiel loss a Split Decision. 115-113 | 111-118 | 112-116
Nice Try.
I think Hasegawa takes the rematch. Hozumi is technical enough to brush up on his mistakes and avoid Montiels left-hooks.
nope, the fight you're referring to was technically above 118 in a non title bout so your statement fails.
also, montiel would break hasegawa's jaw again in a rematch
Montiel lost at 117 and 115, didn't he?
All Hozumi has to do is fix that right hand guard and go in with the intention of out-boxing him instead of trading shots.
He could win comfortably like that. Specially if he fixes that right hand guard.
You make it sound so easy.
that's a bit of an overstatement. i had hasegawa winning before the stoppage, but it was evenly fought up to the end.
i'm a big fan of both guys, but i think montiel comes out on top again in the rematch.
All Hozumi has to do is fix that right hand guard and go in with the intention of out-boxing him instead of trading shots.
He could win comfortably like that. Specially if he fixes that right hand guard.
that's a bit of an overstatement. i had hasegawa winning before the stoppage, but it was evenly fought up to the end.
i'm a big fan of both guys, but i think montiel comes out on top again in the rematch.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this!!
I know,everyone forgets hasegawa was outclassing him before he got caught,which could of happened to anyone.
that's a bit of an overstatement. i had hasegawa winning before the stoppage, but it was evenly fought up to the end.
i'm a big fan of both guys, but i think montiel comes out on top again in the rematch.
Montiel has already loss at 118 before. So that statement fails.
Also, Hozumi would beat him in a rematch.
nope, the fight you're referring to was technically above 118 in a non title bout so your statement fails.
also, montiel would break hasegawa's jaw again in a rematch
Yeah.. ok!!! LOL :sleeping:
It's obvious you didn't watch the fight.
You don't outclass anyone when you get knocked out in the 4rd round.
Yes, you can. Kotsya was getting out classed by Judah before Judah got caught. Montiel was getting out-boxed and losing every round until he got the left hook in finally.
Montiel has already loss at 118 before. So that statement fails.
Also, Hozumi would beat him in a rematch.
You don't outclass anyone when you get knocked out in the 4rd round.
he got caught with second away from the round being over.hasegawa would beat him in the rematch.
I know,everyone forgets hasegawa was outclassing him before he got caught,which could of happened to anyone.
You don't outclass anyone when you get knocked out in the 4rd round.