A lot has been made out of the losses, several by knockout, early in Manny Pacquiao's career. A lot has also been made about the fact that Floyd Mayweather Jr. has gone through 41 opponents without losing.
Take nothing away from Floyds talent or ability, but he was fortunate enough to be born into a boxing family, with a father and at least one uncle (Roger, dont know about Jeff) who were professional fighters. I have seen pictures and videos of Floyd Jr. wearing boxing gloves when he couldnt have been more than three or four years old.
On the other hand, Manny Pacquiao started out as a kickboxer, training in a totally different stance, and did not have the benefit of great boxing trainers raising him from childhood. Even when he came into pro boxing, he was simply a one-handed brawler. I believe it was after losing to Morales in the first fight that Freddie Roach decided to polish the diamond in the rough. Since then Paq is unbeaten, 11 wins and no losses,one draw with 8 knockouts, and has only been seriously challenged twice, those by JMM.
The question is, if Floyd had been raised in Manny's shoes, and Manny raised in Floyd's shoes, is it possible that Floyd would have a handful of losses from his early career, and Manny undefeated. I know some people are going to curse my name for starting this thread, accuse me of trolling, and call this a stupid thread, but I want to know what people think.
By the way, I stated recently that I would red K people who started Floyd/Paq threads before an official fight announcement, and did red K several, so feel free to take your vengeance.
A masterful defensive counterpuncher with unbridled in and out agression, plain old fashioned evil.
i would have to agree that is also something to behold...
As a practitioner of FMA (Filipino Martial Arts) this couldn't be furthered from the truth. FMA have their own kickboxing called Kali/Escrima/Arnis/Silat/Kuntaw...
And Pacquiao have practiced some form or variation of the FMA.
If anybody who hasn't heard, try GOOGLING the said names of the arts above and Guro Dan Inosanto. The only remaining heir to Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. (there's 3 of them who earned the Tao of Jeet Kune Do and Jun Fan Jeet kune Do)
Guro Dan is Bruce Lee's most famous student.
Bro I am Filipino, and Kuntaw or Silat, to be frank I never heard of it during my youth, maybe its like a secret art or something, I now know of it existence but dont know the origins, on the other hand Arnis (escrima, kali), is a more well known in the Philippines and is a weapon based martial arts, I know this since childhood...
Early in Pac's career up to Roach, I did not saw in his form any indication that he has trained on these martial arts ...
manny definitely took the harder path of the two.
floyd was groomed to be a great boxer. manny was born to be one.
how good would manny be considering his athletic abilities+ proper training/nutrition at an early stage in his career?
could floyd have survived selling cigarrettes and still make himself into a great boxer?
As a practitioner of FMA (Filipino Martial Arts) this couldn't be furthered from the truth. FMA have their own kickboxing called Kali/Escrima/Arnis/Silat/Kuntaw...
And Pacquiao have practiced some form or variation of the FMA.
If anybody who hasn't heard, try GOOGLING the said names of the arts above and Guro Dan Inosanto. The only remaining heir to Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. (there's 3 of them who earned the Tao of Jeet Kune Do and Jun Fan Jeet kune Do)
Guro Dan is Bruce Lee's most famous student.
pacquiao doing kickbutt??
FMA since when did you know pacman practice that kick??
boxing prohibits it...
@BEnnyST as you said it goes both ways, maybe Floyd growing in the island of Mindanao would not have the same determination PAC had to get where he is at now and Floyd may have never amount to anything ...
A fast offensive minded defensive genius southpaw with power on both hands would have been something to behold ...
@TS Pac never took Muay Thai, Pilipinos in general don't kickbox...
A masterful defensive counterpuncher with unbridled in and out agression, plain old fashioned evil.
weird thread....
Weird avatar. A few interesting replies, some unrelated. To whoever corrected me about the kickboxing thing, no problem. Whatever it was, it wasnt straight up pro boxing.
@BEnnyST as you said it goes both ways, maybe Floyd growing in the island of Mindanao would not have the same determination PAC had to get where he is at now and Floyd may have never amount to anything ...
A fast offensive minded defensive genius southpaw with power on both hands would have been something to behold ...
@TS Pac never took Muay Thai, Pilipinos in general don't kickbox...
As a practitioner of FMA (Filipino Martial Arts) this couldn't be furthered from the truth. FMA have their own kickboxing called Kali/Escrima/Arnis/Silat/Kuntaw...
And Pacquiao have practiced some form or variation of the FMA.
If anybody who hasn't heard, try GOOGLING the said names of the arts above and Guro Dan Inosanto. The only remaining heir to Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. (there's 3 of them who earned the Tao of Jeet Kune Do and Jun Fan Jeet kune Do)
Guro Dan is Bruce Lee's most famous student.
@BEnnyST as you said it goes both ways, maybe Floyd growing in the island of Mindanao would not have the same determination PAC had to get where he is at now and Floyd may have never amount to anything ...
A fast offensive minded defensive genius southpaw with power on both hands would have been something to behold ...
@TS Pac never took Muay Thai, Pilipinos in general don't kickbox...
Manny couldn't do well with May Sr's style of boxing. There is way too much to even contemplate a thread like this.
Manny would be a cunt and Floyd would be the guy that everyone loves. Goes both ways. The fact is that lots of guys get born into boxing families and don't make shit of themselves. Floyd was born with intense determination and will to succeed and win at any cost.
Maybe if Manny grew up with the Mayweather's he would himself be a dirty freakin crack head that gets beaten up by bums daily....literal bums, not boxing bums.