Who cares. The bottom line is at the highest level a boxer can win in MMGay and an MMa fighter can not win in boxing. We are not talking about wrestling rules or Jujitsu rules or any other set of rules you fags use as an excuse to roll around on each other. Got it?
exactly why you're a ****in idiot. Do you know what the fuk an mma fighter is??? most of are top level olympic wrestlers or world champion jiu jitsu grapplers who reach their potential in their own sport and then learn boxing or kickboxing to transition into mma. BECAUSE MMA IS THE MIDDLE GROUND.
You want a jiu jitsu world champion who only at age 26 or older started learning how to box to jump into the ring with top level boxers to prove that boxing is better than mma? you're a ****ing idiot.
MMA fighters who have striking combat sport as their background are able to win in a ****in boxing match. Look at Vitali Klitschko, Manny Pacquiao, and Chris John who started out as kickboxers.
Oops....there goes your whole theory out the window. Now shut your ass up before you embarass yourself even further.
This proves boxing is far superior to mma/ufc, all the washed up boxing stars can go over there and still have a chance to win a fight, A washed up ufc fighter could not stand in a ring with a pro boxer...
Sorry kid. no washed up boxer has ever won in the UFC. Mercer didnt fight Slva in the UFC..Silva himself was washed up and really over weight when he fought Mecer and he wasnt competing in the UFC anymore..for good reason.....
You know what people also need to understand? A boxer doesn't even have to land a shot to the jaw of a MMA fighter. Pretty much any solid punch from a boxer would seriously hurt a MMA fighter with those tiny gloves. How about cotto doing his signature body shot with those tiny ass gloves? lol say bye to your ribcage MMA fighter.
And a punch to anywhere on the head would kill a MMA fighter, they arent used to getting hit that hard. Wlad would give fedor brain damage if one of his punches connects to the temple!
Exactly the point. It's not obvious because 99.9% OF MMGay fans like to believe it's the same the other way around and It's NOT! Washed up boxers can win at the top level in MMGay. Prime MMGay "fighters" can never win @ the top level in boxing. Simple as that. Boxing is harder obviously.
wow ninja!! Don't go too hard on the MMGay fans, you might hurt their feelings! Its the absolute truth though. If you put prime GaySP in a boxing ring against chad dawson, cloud, pascal, ward, abraham, pavlik, kessler, dirrel, etc., he would get sparked out in under 30 seconds, 40 tops. Same goes for fedor against arreola, adamek, klitckos, etc.
But if the roles were switched and ward, kessler, abraham, etc. Fought gsp in an mmgay match, they would actually have a decent percent chance at winning. We have to remember all mmgay fighters have glass chins and the mentality of a quitter, so it would only take a slight graze by the boxer to KO his opponent.
-In a boxing match against a top boxer, the mmgay fighter has 0.0% chance of winning
-In an mmgay match against a top mmgay fighter, the boxer has atleast a 25% chance of winning, maybe more, due to the glass jaws of the wrestlers
Therefore we can conclude that boxing>mmgay
I like how mma fanboys try to say MMA is real fighting. Funny because every street fight ive been in or seen were people just punchin eachother. In prison if you wrestle you get jumped by like 10 people. Grappling it anti-fighting. It's doing everything a person can to stay away from a fight.
I respect legit kick boxers and MT fighters, but there really arent any in MMA anyways lol.
This proves boxing is far superior to mma/ufc, all the washed up boxing stars can go over there and still have a chance to win a fight, A washed up ufc fighter could not stand in a ring with a pro boxer...
why dont u mma fanboys admit it that boxers have always a punchers punch even in an elite mma fight and that mma fighters has no chance at an elite boxing match
Your an idiot fanboy. A boxer could win in either with a great first punch. The boxer has a chance in any type of fight.
yes you are a ****in idiot. You talk about an mma fighter never being able to beat a top 10 boxer in a boxing ring but are completely ignorant to the fact that there's no such thing as a real mma fighter.
most mma fighters are top level wrestlers or jiu jitsu grapplers who then go on to learn other fighting arts like boxing.
Now you tell me genius....which boxer in history would ever win a straight up jiujitsu match with eddie bravo? or what boxer would ever win a straight up wrestling match with brock lesnar??? Not Ali, not Robinson, NOBODY. Now shut your stupidass up.
Oh well better then the no chance MMGay fags have in boxing.
Do I really have to post the list of all the Mixed Martial Artists with boxing records again. Lots of them have won Boxing matches before.
No doubt Toney will Flatten any of those guys with a clean punch.
Obviously just like it's obvious that a wrestler would be better at ground and pounding, or a JuJitsu Black belt would be better at submissions, or a Mu Thai/Kickboxer would be better at Knee, Leg and Elbow strikes.
You forget they do a fuk load more in MMA than just punching.
He shouldn't even be competing anymore.It's not like he's aged well and takes good care of himself either.
Tim Sylvia just a year previous was touted as this great win for Gaydor Emelianenko and yet Mercer clocks him quicker than Gaydor and suddenly Sylvia is washed up and a complete bum.
Ugh no Fedor has been critisized over the last 2 years for what has been considered soft opposition. He even went fro #2 in the PFP rankings to number 3.
And stop reading into things I know mercer is an old man and in no way does kimbos win over Mercer mean that MMA is better than Boxing because it isn't. I don't even consider it to be anything close to a quality win in fact it was a gimmie win for Kimbo. I think both sports are fuking great and you don't need to defend boxing from me. I love boxing all im trying to do is make you understand that both sports are completely diffrent and don't really have much in common other than they are both combat sports. In otherwords you shouldn't be comparing the two just like people don't compare Football and baseball to each other because they are such diffrent sports.
Joe Rogan is a forty two year old man who advocates steroids and pot.He's a ***^ot and a shit comedian.
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See I can use the same argument against you!!!
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Mercer is a middle aged man for christ sake!!!
He shouldn't even be competing anymore.It's not like he's aged well and takes good care of himself either.
Tim Sylvia just a year previous was touted as this great win for Gaydor Emelianenko and yet Mercer clocks him quicker than Gaydor and suddenly Sylvia is washed up and a complete bum.
first of all i made it 2 minutes in, and while i dont know how toney will do to be honest, if he(Joe) thinks brock or ANY mma fighter can take a right hand from james toney or any boxer for that matter he himself is delusional, mma fighters punch nothing like a boxer(as most of you should know), James connects wiht his percision, Brock is gone simple as that
that means jacks hit. mercer and kimbo had a gentlemans agreement they were just gonna stand up, and kimbo gave his word he wouldnt take him to the ground. bcuz of that mercer hadnt trained for the fight to go to the ground and more importantly he wasnt looking to defend takedowns.
kimbo didnt win cuz he was better, he won bcuz hes a street punk who lies and doesnt fight like a man.
gentlemen's agreement my ass. Takedowns are part of mma. It's like being in a boxing match and not training to defend a left hook because of a gentleman's agreement then bitching when it gets thrown and knocks you out.
Boxing fans talking shit about MMA is as dumb as MMA fans talking shit about boxing, if you don't enjoy a sport, fine, but there's no need to bash it, doing so only makes you look dumb. Toney has just a puncher's chance in MMA, just like Mercer did. Unless he fights mostly standup guys, he'll lose a lot of fights. Randy will take him down easily and then Toney is finished.
Do I really need to post Kimbo Murdering Mercer again??
that means jacks hit. mercer and kimbo had a gentlemans agreement they were just gonna stand up, and kimbo gave his word he wouldnt take him to the ground. bcuz of that mercer hadnt trained for the fight to go to the ground and more importantly he wasnt looking to defend takedowns.
kimbo didnt win cuz he was better, he won bcuz hes a street punk who lies and doesnt fight like a man.
No you can't. A boxer can win/has a shot In MMGay. MMGay fighters can NEVER win in Boxing period. Just admit it.
You're a ****ing idiot. MMA is the middle ground between boxing and other combat sports. A boxer would NEVER win a wrestling match. A boxer would NEVER win a jiu-jitsu match.
MMA is the middle ground where you find out who's better at what.
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