Lol at anyone who thinks Haye beats Wlad.

Haye will KO Vlad, Haye's movement and speed will be too much for him. I agree Haye, is too crafty for Wlad.

Haye is the most exciting HW around imo. The problem he has is that the division has been dominated by giants such as the Klit's and Valuev, a smaller man like Haye is hardly going stand there infront of them and get hit, he's going to be in and out and use his best asset, his speed. So against a giant like Valuev of course he was going to be running all night. Vlad is a technically good fighter, but Haye has a good chance against him. For all his talk, Haye comes into every fight in excellent condition and has a good trainer. He'll have a game plan for Vlad and has the tools to put him down. Whether he will of course is another story, he has to get past Ruiz first. Funny, people said the same thing about Chambers, didn't go too well for him. If Haye thinks the Klitschkos are slow, he's in for a rude awakening.

I'd bet my money on Wlad. However, I think there needs to be a more exciting fighter to dethrone the Klitschkos, considering how much America has lost interest in heavyweight division. Haye just isn't the man to do it. Haye is the most exciting HW around imo. The problem he has is that the division has been dominated by giants such as the Klit's and Valuev, a smaller man like Haye is hardly going stand there infront of them and get hit, he's going to be in and out and use his best asset, his speed. So against a giant like Valuev of course he was going to be running all night. Vlad is a technically good fighter, but Haye has a good chance against him. For all his talk, Haye comes into every fight in excellent condition and has a good trainer. He'll have a game plan for Vlad and has the tools to put him down. Whether he will of course is another story, he has to get past Ruiz first.

I'd bet my money on Wlad. However, I think there needs to be a more exciting fighter to dethrone the Klitschkos, considering how much America has lost interest in heavyweight division. Haye just isn't the man to do it.

What does the Klit bros contractual demands tell you about their confidence in beating him? The Klit bros have manipulated their opponents before but Haye is not a fool and won't get into that shit they tried to pull.Fact is your reasoning here is quite silly. If Haye were to beat Vitali in impressive fashion, he'd be a superstar. If he thinks he can do it, as he clearly boasts by T-shirts with him holding the heads of the K brothers, then he should TAKE THE DAMN FIGHT. FIGHT FOR FREE if he has to!! The K's ARE the recognized champs. Haye is a nobody. If he were to win, imagine what it'd do to his career. Of course, he knows that's not what's going to happen, so he runs.

I think haye probably loses to Vitali, but i think Haye KTFO of Wlad. Wlad is chinny, more so than Haye, and Haye is in shape and fast, and throws a meaningful punch, can't say that about too many of Wlads opponents.

I have no idea. Since when did beating Chambers means he takes out every Heavyweight in history? certainly the ATG threads have become absurd. simply put - klitschkos can never be the #1s of all time cause the names aren't around. and there are only 2 ways to make a REAL case for yourself at heavyweight now. 1. beat a klitschko 2. seize the opportunity when they retire even if they COULD beat ali, foreman, who ever... it would not matter because this is a different age. fighters and athletes are a different breed, especially with steroids. and trust me, several of all of your favorite fighters, and athletes - use them. why are people using the "haye will move and give angles" reasoning? isn't this the same reasoning we have heard over and over and over? certainly someone needs to come up with something realistic. haye does not have superior boxing skills, he doesn't completely DOMINATE fighters for every single round. that is the kind of fighter lennox lewis was, and that is the kind of fighter that the klitschkos are. and the only fighter that ever competed with either of them was lennox lewis. fluke ko losses dont count. everyone knows wlad could beat the people that beat him, especially since he has matured. whats funny is most of these people that are claiming that the klitschkos would lose to haye, povetkin, or to rematches with purritty and sanders - is the fact that if someone handed them $500 bucks and said put it on a fighter, they would go with the smart bet - a klitschko. let haye beat the adamek - arreola winner CONVINCINGLY and then maybe someone can talk about haye having a remote chance.

Haye wont be standing about for 12 rounds getting hit at will and go down from a shot that just brushed his face this is what every fighter (and that fighters fans) has said.

Also what the **** is it with all these noob klitschko supporters crawling from out of the woodwork? I have no idea. Since when did beating Chambers means he takes out every Heavyweight in history?

Come on Bully, Haye has at least 2 chances. Little and none.

Haye will do this, Haye will do that. Haye wont do shit because he wont be able to get past that jab of Wlad's. As soon as he tastes a few jabs and realizes Wlad has better foot work than anticipated, he'll go into a shell or get careless and get KTFO. The only way he beats Wlad is by some miracle punch - cause he ain't outboxing Wlad I'll tell you that right now. And against Vitali? Hahahaha, don't make me laugh. He has no shot against Vitali. I actually pray Haye fights Wlad instead, because Vitali would arm punch him all night and he might end up with brain damage (Vitali has a mean streak in him). At least if he faces Wlad, he's likely to get sparked out early. Wlad KO's Haye early, Vitali stops him mid to late rounds. Haye thus far hasn't shown me anything in the heavyweight division that would make me pause and think about a different prediction than the one I laid out. He was sloppy and particularly unimpressive against Barrett, and GOD AWFUL against Valuev. The Klitschko's haven't seen anything like Haye before? You ought to rephrase that statement; Haye hasn't experienced anything like either Klit brother. Vitali's awkwardness does Haye in, and Wlad's jab and footwork will have him like a deer in headlights; he'll also be surprised by Wlad's speed, which is underrated, especially for a man his size. I give Haye a 10% chance of beating Wlad, and.......well, I don't give him a chance in hell against Vitali. To clarify - I don't find the Klit brothers particularly exciting (but I much prefer Vitali over Wlad), and I am not a big fan of these two brothers, but......Haye is a shit talking punk who doesn't back up his words, therefor all his hype gets pathetic and boring. Call the big oaf Klit brothers what you like, at least they will fight anyone. And if Haye has the balls to fight either one, I'll be rooting for them to decapitate the loud mouth Chav ( a lot of his fans seem to be shit talking chavs as well...figures).

You know what really annoys me? Is this cycle that NSB goes through after a major fight. You know, someone wins a major fight, all of the sudden, nobody can beat them, without even paying attention to the idea that STYLES make fights. David Hayes STYLE could potentially pose issues for wlad, his movement and his determination to actually make it a fight could make it interesting. Hes not some bullshit club figther like arreola is. Not to mention his power, if he can connect, would definately trouble him. Either way, lets stop with the childish reactionary "OMG FIGHTER X IS FRESH IN MY MIND, HES UNBEATABLE UNTIL I SEE FIGHTER Z AGAIN, IN WHICH ILL CHANGE MY OPINION"

haye has a punchers chance,chambers didnt

People need to stop acting like Haye doesnt have the power to take Wlads head off. I haven't seen anything from Haye at HW as of yet to make me think he can just go out there and blast Wladimir out, which would be his only chance in this fight.

People need to stop acting like Haye doesnt have the power to take Wlads head off.

I agree. Wladimir dismantles Haye. Haye knows it. He will never fight either of the Klitschkos.

So what if chambers has a good chin! most heavyweights in history couldn't just take 12 rounds of beating from the klitchko's...so im sure these fat slow heavyweights can't. David Haye is a completely different fight, he is a world class cruiserweight moving up, so you already know he has the ability. He certainly has the power up at heavweight, he actually uses the ring and moves his head, and is a good counter puncher. Believe me if vlad wins this he wins it with his jab and fighting cautiously...not going for a ko. Haye's only real chance is if vlad gets brave, and haye knows this...thus why he was trying to anger them in the build-up. I think haye is a real live underdog here, I think he could shake up vlad with even glancing shots, everyone is forgetting how vulnerable vlad is and how poor his chin is becuase of how long its been since he got shaken up but trust me it hasn't improved over time, the shot that haye landed on valuev was actually a cuffing punch with the inside of the glove and he had him going.

until Haye gets KTFO by someone, Im riding the Hayemaker train! he's hilarious, and for as smart as either Klit brother is, their comebacks are lame. pizza face? that might have been Wlad's best one yet, but i can't wait for Haye's response. I'm sure he'll have me rolling. as far asa inside the ring, Haye (imo) is better than Chambers. doesn't mean he whoops Wlad, but he's got all the tools to **** Wlad up.

Chambers has one of the best chins in the division, and he got KTFO. Haye has a punchers chance and that's it. It's also what makes it an exciting fight because Wlad hasn't been in with a fighter that could truly hurt him since Sam Peter. I would pick Wlad to win also but Wlad can be knocked out. Haye's speed, power and unconventional style poses a threat whether anybody thinks so or not.

haye will tap that ass yeah on his way down maybe. wlad by ko in 7