I mean if Manny continues to dominate by beating Foreman at 154, Margarito and Valero......do you think Arum puts him in their with Pavlik? It would be crazy if pac became ring champ at 160 and even if he lost bad, no one would ever knock him for it. It's a win win for pac and he would be in a fight with absolutely nothing to lose.
I say Pav fukks him up though...but still people would give him major props for even taking the fight.
BTW...Pac vs Floyd aint happening, and as a pac fan Ive moved on. So no dumb pac vs floyd talk here please.
Honestly No body at WW stands a chance against Pavlik and no one at 154 does either. Martinez and Pac may have the best chances but in then end he stops both. If put on the spot, I say Pac has the best chance outta anyone to beat Pav based on his later movement and quickness.
baldomir was just too slow and flat footed, floyd could easily make him miss. floyd couldn't do that against pac, if hatton can corner floyd in the rope then it's safe to say that pac can do it too who is much faster in his foot and hand.
Watch the video. Its not just Baldomir highlights.
Since when does Pac fight like Hatton? Thats not his style. Hes not a good inside fighter at all. Floyd is better on the inside and would bang his body and clinch him whenever he got close then when the ref resets them hes back to boxing from a distance. Floyd isnt Clottey man.
When has Floyd ever done that with a volume puncher?
He doesnt fight like Clottey bro.
You compare standing there covered up to this:
Man you will be in for a surprise if you think he fights anything like Clottey.
baldomir was just too slow and flat footed, floyd could easily make him miss. floyd couldn't do that against pac, if hatton can corner floyd in the rope then it's safe to say that pac can do it too who is much faster in his foot and hand.
yes he is, pac will just overwhelm floyd with his punches and will make floyd fight in a full defense mode just like clottey, but i think floyd is not tough enough to withstand all the punches and will gonna be get ko in the later rounds.
When has Floyd ever done that with a volume puncher?
He doesnt fight like Clottey bro.
You compare standing there covered up to this:
Man you will be in for a surprise if you think he fights anything like Clottey.
You honestly think hes too much for Floyd Mayweather?
yes he is, pac will just overwhelm floyd with his punches and will make floyd fight in a full defense mode just like clottey, but i think floyd is not tough enough to withstand all the punches and will gonna be get ko in the later rounds.
i think pac could outpoints pavlik to win a unanimous decision. Pac was just too much to any welterweight right now and i think the only way pac loses if he fights a middleweight world champion.
You honestly think hes too much for Floyd Mayweather?
i think pac could outpoints pavlik to win a unanimous decision. Pac was just too much to any welterweight right now and i think the only way pac loses if he fights a middleweight world champion.
i think he can weigh 155 with clothes and shoes on.
wear a fat gold chain too. :lol1:
You see that weight vest Arreola had on, for the Klit weigh in I think it was?
Dude stepped on the scale at like 290 or some sht and then laughed, took it off.
I'm thinking Pavlik will lose to Martinez before Pac or Mayweather can get to him.
pavlik would really kill pacyow, like he would hit pacyow and manny head would split open and his brain will land on lampleys lap as he yells bang bang
people would be jumping off buildings like in the happening. mass suicide hahah
I mean if Manny continues to dominate by beating Foreman at 154, Margarito and Valero......do you think Arum puts him in their with Pavlik? It would be crazy if pac became ring champ at 160 and even if he lost bad, no one would ever knock him for it. It's a win win for pac and he would be in a fight with absolutely nothing to lose.
I say Pav fukks him up though...but still people would give him major props for even taking the fight.
BTW...Pac vs Floyd aint happening, and as a pac fan Ive moved on. So no dumb pac vs floyd talk here please.
Pac can't even make 147lbs...they have to keep giving him protein shake to gain weight!
great point,pac ducked foreman, now cotto is fighting foreman haha.
Deciding not to move fight in an yet another weight class is not ducking, that is ridiculous. He chose to fight in and possibly clean out welterweight. Bhop was talking about jumping to heavyweight after beating Tarver, he didnt do it, was he ducking someone? No. According to this logic every champion in every weight class is ducking the fighters in the class above them.
I mean if Manny continues to dominate by beating Foreman at 154, Margarito and Valero......do you think Arum puts him in their with Pavlik? It would be crazy if pac became ring champ at 160 and even if he lost bad, no one would ever knock him for it. It's a win win for pac and he would be in a fight with absolutely nothing to lose.
I say Pav fukks him up though...but still people would give him major props for even taking the fight.
BTW...Pac vs Floyd aint happening, and as a pac fan Ive moved on. So no dumb pac vs floyd talk here please.
**** no, thats retarded to even think... If he did I would apologize for this statement and call Pac GOAT if he were to even fight Pavlik.
The only way Pac will fight Pavlik is if Pavlik gets KO'd and then drains himself down to 150 pounds. Pac only fights guys on a losing streak and those with limited skills. His next fight will be against either Edwin Valero (Freddie Roach's choice), who would move up to 140 and is very limited skill-wise, Juan Urango (after a post-KO tuneup), or he will move up to 154 and fight the most feared and avoided champion in the division -- the IBO World Champion -- so he can claim a world title in his eighth division.
The names you won't hear Arum mentioning as candidates for Pac's next fight will be Mosley, Mayweather, Bradley, Alexander or Juan Manuel Marquez.
I was just about to ask why you are in the red.............................
I mean if Manny continues to dominate by beating Foreman at 154, Margarito and Valero......do you think Arum puts him in their with Pavlik? It would be crazy if pac became ring champ at 160 and even if he lost bad, no one would ever knock him for it. It's a win win for pac and he would be in a fight with absolutely nothing to lose.
I say Pav fukks him up though...but still people would give him major props for even taking the fight.
BTW...Pac vs Floyd aint happening, and as a pac fan Ive moved on. So no dumb pac vs floyd talk here please.
The only way Pac will fight Pavlik is if Pavlik gets KO'd and then drains himself down to 150 pounds. Pac only fights guys on a losing streak and those with limited skills. His next fight will be against either Edwin Valero (Freddie Roach's choice), who would move up to 140 and is very limited skill-wise, Juan Urango (after a post-KO tuneup), or he will move up to 154 and fight the most feared and avoided champion in the division -- the IBO World Champion -- so he can claim a world title in his eighth division.
The names you won't hear Arum mentioning as candidates for Pac's next fight will be Mosley, Mayweather, Bradley, Alexander or Juan Manuel Marquez.
I in the matter of fact think Pac could win. I just don't think much of Pavlik at the moment he has to show me something. I think he is a ruined figther. I think if Pac fights the perfect fight he could beat Pavlik. Of Course Pavlik could land at a punch that could ended at any moment. But, Pavlik would be the slowest fighter Pac would have fought up to this point. And, Pac would be the fastest fighter Pavlik has ever fought. Plus if Pac moves side to side keep turning not let Pavlik get set and keeps the fight in the middle of the ring I think Pac could pull of a decision.
But, I don't see this fight happening since I don't think Pavlik will be champion after April since IMO he is done against top level fighters and he is fighting a style in April that he wont be able to handle.
Jrose...just from a technical aspect, doesn't Pac have to weight 154 1/2 or higher to fight for a title at 160 or can you come in under the limit and still win a title. I know back in the days you could but I'm guessing now all championship bouts have to be within the weight limit of 155-160