Would Prime Ali on Peds be unbeatable?

This is a stupid question because most already agree a prime Ali was unbeatable without the peds. Maybe you should apply this question to George Foreman. Had he not got tired, he would have beat Ali. Most already agree he was unbeatable? Many agree he is the greatest HW in history, but that doesnt mean the same thing as being unbeatable. Ive heard arguments from Marciano, Louis, Jack Johnson, Lennox, and even Klitschko fans about being able to beat Ali.

Vitali Klitschko! :D at 40 yrs of age! Great answer! He is indeed a quality fighter. But, he hasn't done random blood testing, so..... fsl.

fsl clearly states my position. Floyd Stan Logic. so again, using fsl, Muhammed Ali was clearly doing some type of performance enhancer. He never took the random blood tests to prove his innocence. Who do you know retires for three and a half years, and comes back knocking dudes out? Vitali Klitschko! :D at 40 yrs of age!

u forgot to quote EDIT : OH WAIT, ALI WON OLYMPIC GOLD ALSO ? did u just S3lf 9wn4g3? source wikipedia : Under Stoner's guidance, Cassius Clay went on to win six Kentucky Golden Gloves titles, two national Golden Gloves titles, an Amateur Athletic Union National Title, and the Light Heavyweight gold medal in the 1960 Summer Olympics in Rome. Clay's amateur record was 100 wins with five losses. Self ownage? no, I didn't forget to quote it because it wasn't there. anyhow, Ever heard of Marion Jones? 5 medals. 3 gold 2 bronze.

Stop comparing Pacquiao to Ali, he's not even close to be as great as Ali was. Pac and Floyd aren't even close to be as great as Ali was.

If he was a real champ like Michael Phelps, he would have volunteered it. The money is irrelevant. He was definitely on something. fsl. u forgot to quote EDIT : OH WAIT, ALI WON OLYMPIC GOLD ALSO ? did u just S3lf 9wn4g3? source wikipedia : Under Stoner's guidance, Cassius Clay went on to win six Kentucky Golden Gloves titles, two national Golden Gloves titles, an Amateur Athletic Union National Title, and the Light Heavyweight gold medal in the 1960 Summer Olympics in Rome. Clay's amateur record was 100 wins with five losses.

Would anybody have much of a chance? This is a stupid question because most already agree a prime Ali was unbeatable without the peds. Maybe you should apply this question to George Foreman. Had he not got tired, he would have beat Ali.

ali never had t3h chance to throw 40.000.000$ out of the window, unlike manny duckquiao. and btw. no one requested an olympic-style bloodtesting from ali. If he was a real champ like Michael Phelps, he would have volunteered it. The money is irrelevant. He was definitely on something. fsl.

fsl clearly states my position. Floyd Stan Logic. so again, using fsl, Muhammed Ali was clearly doing some type of performance enhancer. He never took the random blood tests to prove his innocence. Who do you know retires for three and a half years, and comes back knocking dudes out? ali never had t3h chance to throw 40.000.000$ out of the window, unlike manny duckquiao. and btw. no one requested an olympic-style bloodtesting from ali. EDIT : OH WAIT, ALI WON OLYMPIC GOLD ALSO :D?

I'm not an expert on steroids in the 1960's but considering that boxing as a sport has traditionally been rather conservative about its training methods, for example Ali himself often used to train on an isolated cottage in a forest while doing some roadwork and chopping wood, I'd say the chances of Ali having used PED's in the 60's are fairly low. Ali on steroids would have had to find competition from a zoo or something. Much like that old catskills thread about Tyson fighting a gorilla. I guess there would have been no need to call Frazier a gorilla had he fought actual ones. Even more suspicious. He couldn't even train in the sight of others because he was too busy filling himself up with PEDs. fsl.

I'm not an expert on steroids in the 1960's but considering that boxing as a sport has traditionally been rather conservative about its training methods, for example Ali himself often used to train on an isolated cottage in a forest while doing some roadwork and chopping wood, I'd say the chances of Ali having used PED's in the 60's are fairly low. Ali on steroids would have had to find competition from a zoo or something. Much like that old catskills thread about Tyson fighting a gorilla. I guess there would have been no need to call Frazier a gorilla had he fought actual ones. Because none of the men he fought in the 60's would have stood a chance, they didn't even when Ali was clean.

Every boxer in history before testing was done was on something if you use that logic. And don't tell me you're taking the piss either with your retarded comments. You do not have the intelligence to troll a thread. fsl clearly states my position. Floyd Stan Logic. so again, using fsl, Muhammed Ali was clearly doing some type of performance enhancer. He never took the random blood tests to prove his innocence. Who do you know retires for three and a half years, and comes back knocking dudes out?

what???? you fail sir. what happened to Ali's loss to frazier in madison square garden?? what happened to fraziers face after the fight?

ali 60s 29-0-0 23 KOs ali 70s 28-0-2 14 KOs your knowledge is typical for a pacquiao fan, u aint a fan of the sport, just another nuthugger :D what???? you fail sir. what happened to Ali's loss to frazier in madison square garden??

According to the logic of Mayweather and his fans, we'll never know if he actually was clean. yup, at this point, since none of those guys ever did random blood testing, they're all guilty. fsl.

According to the logic of Mayweather and his fans, we'll never know if he actually was clean.

ali 60s 29-0-0 23 KOs ali 70s 28-0-2 14 KOs your knowledge is typical for a pacquiao fan, u aint a fan of the sport, just another nuthugger :D He never did random blood testing. He was on something. btw, Erik Morales is my favorite fighter. fsl.

He was definitely on something. Nobody comes back after a three year layoff and starts knocking dudes out. He was definitely on something. fsl ali 60s 29-0-0 23 KOs ali 70s 28-0-2 14 KOs your knowledge is typical for a pacquiao fan, u aint a fan of the sport, just another nuthugger :D

iunno there is something about the way that guys who juice perform. They seem to blow out anyone out there. Ali had a fair share of ass kickings. he competed and wasnt always the better fighter or boxer. but definitely the smarter one He was definitely on something. Nobody comes back after a three year layoff and starts knocking dudes out. He was definitely on something. fsl

How do you know he was clean in the first place? iunno there is something about the way that guys who juice perform. They seem to blow out anyone out there. Ali had a fair share of ass kickings. he competed and wasnt always the better fighter or boxer. but definitely the smarter one