Seriously, Every fighter most specially the upstarts should be scared then. Because the boxing commission that is mandated to protect them isn't capable to do that task.
If multiple random bloodtests and urinetesting leading up to the day of the fight is really the way to go, then institute these changes. In addition, have stiffer penalties and ban actual users from the sport, have testing protocols scientifically validated, make sure it would stand in court and have these tests conducted in a fair transparent manner. The organization conducting the tests should be free from any ties with the boxers of promoters to ensure fair treatment of samples.
Until these are instituted, protection is a personal responsibility. It is the trainors/managers and well as the fighter's responsibility to protect himself from possible harm because of these "undetectable" PEDs - they ultimately have the decision whether to fight or not to fight. Unless mandated by institutions/commissions in the sport, whatever excess conditions stipulated in contracts (like added testing, catchweights, weight ceilings) will again fall under the fighters'/trainors'/managers' responsibility...they also have the right to accept those terms or not.
Mayweather has all the right to say "NO" and protect himself from a smaller guy who he believes uses PEDs, even if he thinks he can beat that guy easily "under any circumstances." Nobody's stopping him from taking other fights. He's free to choose fighters who he perceives to be clean or fighters who would agree to his style of testing. Margarito, Williams, Cotto, Martinez, Bradley...since he's supposed to be boxing's cash cow, any fight with these guys should generate good PPV numbers.
Pacquiao on the otherhand also has all the right to say "NO", but in this case, to Mayweather's excessive conditions. For Pacquiao there will be other fighters out there who would agree to fight him without such add-ons which Pacquiao feels would render him less than 100% on fight night; we don't want an excuse for a loss now do we? If every fighter out there would demand that Pacquiao subjects himself to tests, maybe he wouldn't have a choice but do those tests or be forced to get out of the sport. In fact, if every fighter out there would demand these tests, boxing commissions would not have any choice but to ultimately adopt those testing protocols.
In the end, fans have the right to buy or not to buy these boxer's fights. But people or media doesn't have the right to force these fighters to subject themselves to conditions that would permit them from fighting and being able to protect themselves 100%. Boxing is a dangerous sport. :439:
Dana white said it best. "Boxing and MMA are already 2 of the most rigorously tested sports in the country. Let me put it this way. If all sports were under the same testing boxing and mma were on.....there would be no basketball, baseball, football on sundays. There wouldnt have enough players to take the field because almost all of them would test positive."
So you ignore the basis of my post and deflect into an unrelated issue dealing with mayweathers lack of true welterweights on his resume. That isnt the point. Drugs evolve, so the test must evolve with it. If this concept is too complicated for you to understand, then dont even hit that reply button.
Seriously, Every fighter most specially the upstarts should be scared then. Because the boxing commission that is mandated to protect them isn't capable to do that task.
If multiple random bloodtests and urinetesting leading up to the day of the fight is really the way to go, then institute these changes. In addition, have stiffer penalties and ban actual users from the sport, have testing protocols scientifically validated, make sure it would stand in court and have these tests conducted in a fair transparent manner. The organization conducting the tests should be free from any ties with the boxers of promoters to ensure fair treatment of samples.
Until these are instituted, protection is a personal responsibility. It is the trainors/managers and well as the fighter's responsibility to protect himself from possible harm because of these "undetectable" PEDs - they ultimately have the decision whether to fight or not to fight. Unless mandated by institutions/commissions in the sport, whatever excess conditions stipulated in contracts (like added testing, catchweights, weight ceilings) will again fall under the fighters'/trainors'/managers' responsibility...they also have the right to accept those terms or not.
Mayweather has all the right to say "NO" and protect himself from a smaller guy who he believes uses PEDs, even if he thinks he can beat that guy easily "under any circumstances." Nobody's stopping him from taking other fights. He's free to choose fighters who he perceives to be clean or fighters who would agree to his style of testing. Margarito, Williams, Cotto, Martinez, Bradley...since he's supposed to be boxing's cash cow, any fight with these guys should generate good PPV numbers.
Pacquiao on the otherhand also has all the right to say "NO", but in this case, to Mayweather's excessive conditions. For Pacquiao there will be other fighters out there who would agree to fight him without such add-ons which Pacquiao feels would render him less than 100% on fight night; we don't want an excuse for a loss now do we? If every fighter out there would demand that Pacquiao subjects himself to tests, maybe he wouldn't have a choice but do those tests or be forced to get out of the sport. In fact, if every fighter out there would demand these tests, boxing commissions would not have any choice but to ultimately adopt those testing protocols.
In the end, fans have the right to buy or not to buy these boxer's fights. But people or media doesn't have the right to force these fighters to subject themselves to conditions that would permit them from fighting and being able to protect themselves 100%. Boxing is a dangerous sport. :439:
So you ignore the basis of my post and deflect into an unrelated issue dealing with mayweathers lack of true welterweights on his resume. That isnt the point. Drugs evolve, so the test must evolve with it. If this concept is too complicated for you to understand, then dont even hit that reply button.
THERES only som much evolving that can happen...
pretty soon people will be asking boxers to cut their arm off for a stupid test
evolve my ass... I wish mayweather would evolve balls and actually fight a rated welter - Margarito! :439:
So you ignore the basis of my post and deflect into an unrelated issue dealing with mayweathers lack of true welterweights on his resume. That isnt the point. Drugs evolve, so the test must evolve with it. If this concept is too complicated for you to understand, then dont even hit that reply button.
precedents and procedures evolve with the times. floyd while likely in selfish fashoin, was demanding a new precendent, i dont think its an issue, you have to evolve the procedures with the times.
evolve my ass... I wish mayweather would evolve balls and actually fight a rated welter - Margarito! :439:
You know, a lot of people like to bring that up, but that was just one blood test wasn't it? and that one blood test was good enough for Tyson and Holyfield.
precedents and procedures evolve with the times. floyd while likely in selfish fashoin, was demanding a new precendent, i dont think its an issue, you have to evolve the procedures with the times.
The big lie: "this demand (the random blood testing) was never before done in boxing".
Mike Tyson demanded the same from Evander Holifield and Holifield delivered and ended up winning the fight.
You know, a lot of people like to bring that up, but that was just one blood test wasn't it? and that one blood test was good enough for Tyson and Holyfield.
The big lie: "this demand (the random blood testing) was never before done in boxing".
Mike Tyson demanded the same from Evander Holifield and Holifield delivered and ended up winning the fight.