Was Muhammad Ali on Steroids when he beat Foreman in the Rumble in the jungle?

I remember watching a special on Ali a while back and there was a segment when Foreman talked about this and he is even convinced that something was going on because nobody has ever taken his shots like he did that night. He did admit he lost it for being dumb though.

i also think that win by Ali smells fishy. he was taking heavy beating from Foreman when he was doing the rope-a-dope. not to say he took steroids, but it's similar as when Pac was doping rope a dope with Cotto and getting hit with big shots. wow...hehe

LOL, just when I thought Manny's nuthuggers couldn't get any dumber, along comes this thread. now ur calling dumbasses on ppl who questioned ur fav fighter integrity what more Pac tsk, tsk, tsk:thinking:

Team Mayweather has tried to discredit the greatest of OUR era. Is THAT acceptable to you? u should stop open dumb threads and discredit the greatest, just because u get a little attention in the internet, then we can make a deal.

Stop raving. u should stop open dumb threads and discredit the greatest, just because u get a little attention in the internet, then we can make a deal.

Floyd will never fight Pacman. He is afraid to fight a top fighter. He is 32 years old and he soon will retire for good without ever having a defining fight. All the while his blind idolaters make excuses for the running man. Pacquiao agreed to a test, fools, he just wouldn't agree to every ridiculous demand "running man" insisted upon. If Pacman agreed to that, there would have been a different demand to meet, and then another. Mayweather and his group would have kept changing the standard until Pacman said "no more". If happened just like he hoped it would. Now his nuthuggers can go on the warpath defending him. Anybody with three brain cells knows Mayweather is the "ducker".

Triple H was on the juice when he fought The Rock http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GI8idJ1yqWM/RnYSwKNeGII/AAAAAAAABEE/DQTSb7QP1Ic/s320/rock+v+triple+h(slam.canoe.JPG

Stop raving. by beating all time greats like cotto at catchweights, the pacman deserves to be rated over ali and archie moore (131 KO victories). imagine manny pacquiao being black, he would just be an another black fighter, nothing special. roach will try to save this hype job from a real great fighter like floyd mayweather. but soon or later this fight will happen, and all the manny fans will be quiet after floyd massacres this midget. until then we have to be patient with threads like this, making jokes about real legends like muhammad ali, who is the most known person in boxing history and did so much for this sport. im asking myself where was pacquiao when ali was entertaining the pinoys in 75. your daddies watched ali fight back then and they were probably wanking at the same time, u should start learning to respect legends.

Oh now it's offensive when the logic is used on a fighter you like??? What Ali did is beyond normal. He was suspended for 4 years goes through 15 rds of hell and loses to Frazier. A guy that Foreman creams in 2 rounds. He was definitely in decline then all of a sudden takes Foreman's punches like candy. Not saying he was or wasnt on anything...but something was definitely up. I agree... damn! i love your avatar! :nana:

by beating all time greats like cotto at catchweights, the pacman deserves to be rated over ali and archie moore (131 KO victories). imagine manny pacquiao being black, he would just be an another black fighter, nothing special. roach will try to save this hype job from a real great fighter like floyd mayweather. but soon or later this fight will happen, and all the manny fans will be quiet after floyd massacres this midget. until then we have to be patient with threads like this, making jokes about real legends like muhammad ali, who is the most known person in boxing history and did so much for this sport. im asking myself where was pacquiao when ali was entertaining the pinoys in 75. your daddies watched ali fight back then and they were probably wanking at the same time, u should start learning to respect legends.

what's your take on the nasal shit inbetween rounds? it's even on tape, i dont think that was legal :nonono:

Really? I never heard that before. Ali did use steroids in one fight cant recall which fight it was though. You can Google it.

Manny is one to complain with all of his catchweight bullshit. I don't really even like Mayweather, but he complied to all Pac's demands. I'm sure he didn't want to, but he wanted to make the fight. Manny couldn't agree to the testing and whether you like it or not, it makes him look like he's hiding something. You don't turn down that much money for nothing.

Wow, one guy with a urine test. With or without the juice, Chavez sucks, but the point is they'd likey catch a ton more with blood. Hopefully the commission steps up. Manny could have set an example but he left his ego and maybe other things get in the way of that. you wouldnt let someone that wasnt your mother tell you what to do. you would be upset if someone at the office who wasnt your boss try to dictate your job description. Yes Pac could have set an example but as a man i dont blame him for refusing either. All floyd had to do was sign the damn contract instead of tryin to tell another man to "wash his hands before sitting at the table." without even looking at them and we'd have a fight.

by the way the nsac commission did catch Julio cesar chavez jr for p.e.d's when he fought on the pacquiao-cotto undercard. I dont get why everyone (pacfans, floyd fans, and journalists) ignores or misses this fact. Wow, one guy with a urine test. With or without the juice, Chavez sucks, but the point is they'd likey catch a ton more with blood. Hopefully the commission steps up. Manny could have set an example but he left his ego and maybe other things get in the way of that.

I like Dana White, but until they start testing the blood they don't care as much as they should. by the way the nsac commission did catch Julio cesar chavez jr for p.e.d's when he fought on the pacquiao-cotto undercard. I dont get why everyone (pacfans, floyd fans, and journalists) ignores or misses this fact.

UFC president dana white actually said it best. "that's what the commission is for. To protect the fighters and they're doing a fantastic job. steroids is obviously something no one wants to see in any sport and the commission does catch guys on a regular basis. Boxing and MMA are 2 of the most rigorously tested sports in the world. Let me put it this way. If all sports were tested the way boxing and mma were....there'd be no basketball, no baseball, no football on sundays." well like dana said.....that's what the commission is there for. If the commission decides to incorporate blood tests into their standard procedures we wouldnt have a need for this conversation would we??? Pacquiao and arum stated if the commission requires it then they require it. But they're not going to let someone who is not part of a governing body dictate something like that. To this day there is no petition, letter or any sort of verbal request whatsoever to any athletic commission of any state from golden boy or mayweather productions to upgrade drug testing.

I like Dana White, but until they start testing the blood they don't care as much as they should.

Yeah, and most of the public is going to wonder why their favourite athletes won't take a test to prove to them he's clean. Sometimes ego can **** you up too. UFC president dana white actually said it best. "that's what the commission is for. To protect the fighters and they're doing a fantastic job. steroids is obviously something no one wants to see in any sport and the commission does catch guys on a regular basis. Boxing and MMA are 2 of the most rigorously tested sports in the world. Let me put it this way. If all sports were tested the way boxing and mma were....there'd be no basketball, no baseball, no football on sundays."

And plenty of quality boxers also recently said they would tell them to go to hell with it if in the same situation. Yeah, and most of the public is going to wonder why their favourite athletes won't take a test to prove to them he's clean. Sometimes ego can **** you up too.