GBP and Mayweather productions have taken up the cross of being champions of all that is right and fair with blood testing.
But to this day there is still no petition, letter, or verbal request whatsoever to upgrade the NSAC or athletic commission of ANY state to include blood testing in it's standard operating procedure. NOT from GBP, NOT from the Mayweathers, or Ellerbe, or Haymon. Even after all the BS about testing and negotiations we've been fed the past month......NONE.
Thoughts???
I thought it was Ellerbe and Al Haymon that wanted the testing and not Floyd..
And if that true.. Why isnt Mosley getting tested for the Berto fight..
I'd bet that they don't give a rat's ass about Mosley getting tested. He could take PED's concocted with spinach and I wouldn't still be impressed when he fights. Mosley has not half the talent of either Pac and Mayweather.
Holy shit your ****ing lying...
Ive see so many racist remakes against pinoys up in here.
From calling them chimp, migets, small Penis, Dog eaters, Poor, I hope a hurricane can kill the rest of the pinoys.
and most of these are from Flomos..
that was going on when i joined in 2004, mexico vs the phillipines was the hot rivalry then and all of those insults you see up there are exactly what was being played out on here by the mexicans.
i dont approve of it and i never will.
I thought it was Ellerbe and Al Haymon that wanted the testing and not Floyd..
And if that true.. Why isnt Mosley getting tested for the Berto fight..
Yes, why not start now? Yes, right now? It's obvious your first name has to be Manny and your last name has to be Pacquiao.
but but but why just now?? cuz the mayweather's said so.. after all the fights and boxers tested by NSAC they have commit themselves and already adjusted to the nsac testing alot will argue about this if it would be implemented.. and it wont IMO..
Hes VOLUNTEERING to take Olympic Style testing EVERY fight.
he's not volunteering dumbass, it's in his contract. He's contractually obligated to undergo this testing.
Mega-cosign.
The fried chicken thing is blatant racism. I went onto the manny pacquiao facebook page, and the Pinoys were calling Floyd's family monkeys.
You can go online and find a lot of racial slurs and insults attributable to Filipinos. And you never see any Mayweather fans referring to Pinoys as any of them.
Take a look at pac's mom. You never see FMJ fans commenting on her looks.
But the mods allow it one way...but not the other. So it is what it is.
Holy shit your ****ing lying...
Ive see so many racist remakes against pinoys up in here.
From calling them chimp, migets, small Penis, Dog eaters, Poor, I hope a hurricane can kill the rest of the pinoys.
and most of these are from Flomos..
every individual has a different perception about certain things.
and as you've stated, its clear to you that the pictures you've shown are racial.
i may or may not agree, but i will not contest your opinion of the matter.
i just posted this on SOHH.coms sports forum to see what reaction it would draw
http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=2499321
It is racial, because of KFC logo but since when has it not been racial ? If you look at the sigs and avatars of some of the pinoy brothers here, it shows clear racism.
Watch this video and please tell me there is no racism intended at all, please.
every individual has a different perception about certain things.
and as you've stated, its clear to you that the pictures you've shown are racial.
i may or may not agree, but i will not contest your opinion of the matter.
Are you guys against Olympic Style Testing?
Yes or No.
I'm for stricter drug testing in the sport, but I disagree completely with how Floyd handled the situation.
I think it's good for Floyd to bring up the issue to the forefront, whether he meant to or not, but if he wanted to follow through with it, he would take his requests to the commission and use his popularity and star power to try and change the system.
I don't think bringing this issue up during negotiations of a superfight is the right forum to bring up this issue. I think if Floyd was serious about cleaning up the sport, he would demanded this kind of testing when he was coming back. And I think it's unfair to single out Pacquiao, because even if he is cheating, it would be incredibly naive to assume he's the only one. Why not ask how Ricky Hatton can balloon to over 200 pounds, but somehow get to 140-147 in fighting shape within months? Why not make sure that Marquez didn't cheat to climb from 135 to 147? He's been talking about Shane Mosley taking steroids, why not bring up blood testing when Shane was calling him out? All those guys are just as suspicious as Pacquiao, if not more.
Is that fair? Or am I a Pactard just because I don't agree with how Floyd handled the process.
Mega-cosign.
The fried chicken thing is blatant racism. I went onto the manny pacquiao facebook page, and the Pinoys were calling Floyd's family monkeys.
You can go online and find a lot of racial slurs and insults attributable to Filipinos. And you never see any Mayweather fans referring to Pinoys as any of them.
Take a look at pac's mom. You never see FMJ fans commenting on her looks.
But the mods allow it one way...but not the other. So it is what it is.
there are a few mayweather fans that have made slanderous comments about the filipino people so i wont take sides and pretend like it doesnt happen because it does.
what you get on the mayweather side is the same thing yougot with the mexicans which is that the phillipines is a sh!tty country and pac is all they have etc. however most of the time its more classism than anything else, mixed with a whole lot of xenophobia.
Seriously, its been NO secret that boxers have been caught using PED's in the sport of boxing. If this is REALLY a serious issue that the Mayweather camp is GENUINELY concerned about, why only NOW?
Don't give me any of this "fight of the century" bullshit because EVERY MAJOR fight is important to a boxer's career. So with the possibility that any fighter could have been on PED's, why did they not ask in their previous fights, "hey, how do we know this guy isn't juicing?". Why, up until NOW, is the Mayweather camp questioning the integrity and credibility of NSAC?
You guys can come up with all the reasoning and excuses in the world, but don't try to feed us the "Floyd, the knight in shinning armor" tripe.
I see what you are saying, but do his motivations have to matter?
If there is a better testing practice out there, I think a boxer has the right to demand it, no matter what his motivations are. Who are we to say what he can and cant demand when its his health on the line?
And please stop with the "why only now" question. There is such a thing called progress. Why are YOU against it?
we were labelled a "nation of slaves" in a different country in their mainstream media, that didnt "sit well" but we didnt loose our minds.
its all good.
who said that sh!t?
and by "loose youre minds" i mean cause an uproar here on boxingscene.
I know what the paralell is, and i still dont like it.
just like i dont like the image of obama floating around like hes a kenyan witchdoctor (but its about healthcare!)
just like i dont like the image of obama shining sarah palins shoes (but its about obama having to find a new job!)
If i drew a parallel between manny eating a dog he loved because he thought it tasted good, and manny cheating on his wife because he thought it would be ok at the time not only would it play on a racial stereotype thats wrongly attributed to the filipino population, you people would lose youre minds.
No matter what, a black man as a friend chicken logo dont sit well with me. im not reporting anyone, im not red K'ing anyone, but im lettin it be known i dont like it.
How many of yall can say you have ever gotten red K from me? maybe 1 or 2 in the 6 years i been here. So save that sh!t.
we were labelled a "nation of slaves" in a different country in their mainstream media, that didnt "sit well" but we didnt loose our minds.
its all good.
Seriously, its been NO secret that boxers have been caught using PED's in the sport of boxing. If this is REALLY a serious issue that the Mayweather camp is GENUINELY concerned about, why only NOW?
Don't give me any of this "fight of the century" bullshit because EVERY MAJOR fight is important to a boxer's career. So with the possibility that any fighter could have been on PED's, why did they not ask in their previous fights, "hey, how do we know this guy isn't juicing?". Why, up until NOW, is the Mayweather camp questioning the integrity and credibility of NSAC?
You guys can come up with all the reasoning and excuses in the world, but don't try to feed us the "Floyd, the knight in shinning armor" tripe.
If he wants to lead by example then good 4 him. But to push whatever moral high ground you may have on others is complete BS.
If you and I are both on a team and you run an extra mile a day that's on you. Itd make you a better player and a better person for it. I dont have to do it with you and you cant make me. If coach or the league says we all have to then that's a completely different story.
To me, taking a blood test is not like doing extra work, or running an extra mile. So that comparison doesnt work for me. It takes 2 seconds and its a done deal.
Maybe I will never understand because I do not happen to believe that those tests hinder performances. I just dont. Olympic athletes deal with them all the time. Ive dealt with them. Taking a blood test is not extra work.
So as far as imposing something on others, (a practice that is age old in boxing, something Manny has done himself), I feel like blood tests are very low on the totem pole.
Floyd Mayweather is leading by example.
He joins up with King AA.....to push for a cleaner better sport.
How can you be mad?
WADA should first have a scientifically validated blood testing for HGH the way they have a scientifically validated urine testing for EPO.
so you are more inclined to say that the picture is more on racial insult than character scrutiny?
anyway its El Jesus opinion. as well as yours i guess.
whatever. thats my opinion as a black man, so just like youre sensitive to dogs, im sensitive to the fried chicken stereotype in ANY form
I been here for a while too. Since 2004.
The Cotto fans, Hatton fans, Calzaghe Fans, Floyd fans,The Hops Crew, Pavliks boys, Mosleys crew....they all were funny and brought something to the forum.
The Pac fans are the worst Ive ever seen on this forum.
that hurt my feeling dawg..
how can you rate us lower then Calzghe fans..
El Jesus is an oldschool boxingscene poster with credibility. Most people respect him here, so i doubt he would want to get another poster in trouble without good reasoning. He has a point IMO
so you are more inclined to say that the picture is more on racial insult than character scrutiny?
anyway its El Jesus opinion. as well as yours i guess.