it's an insult to Nevada Athletic Commission

Blood doping is simply just that and is of separate system altogether. What the hell are you talking about? The world anti-doping agency is THE body that comes up with the list of banned substances for professional sport every year, as well as listing all of the performance enhancing practices that athletes are not allowed to participate in. This is WADA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Anti-Doping_Agency The USADA implements the anti-doping code created by WADA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Anti-Doping_Agency This is the best testing program in the world right now for professional athlete's and it improves every year.

Menace, I can believe you're honest that you've felt this way a long time, but you have to admit, most the people on this forum are just jumping on the bandwagon. I'm sure they are. But put everything aside and think about the testing they want done. Is it the right thing to do? I can't think of any reason why anyone should ever say "no." Boxing fans, and sports fans in general, should be outraged that better testing procedures are being refused.

Well, it's a constant battle for these agencies to develop tests to catch new drugs, or uncover new masking agents etc. I want it as clean as it can get, which means using the latest tests and procedures to catch as much as they can. Stuff will still get through. That will always be the case, because cheating has been around as long as sport. Right now the world anti-doping agency is the so called gold standard for testing, so that is what boxing and all other sports should be following. Blood doping is simply just that and is of separate system altogether.

Menace, I can believe you're honest that you've felt this way a long time, but you have to admit, most the people on this forum are just jumping on the bandwagon.

Exactly. You would think people would do some research before posting stuff that can be argued away. Here's why research before posting is very important sometimes... If GBP and company is "insulting" the NSAC, then why did Arum suggest they try using the testing agencies that the NFL, MLB, and NBA use for their athletes? It was reported here on BS. You can look it up. Isn't that insulting to the NSAC too or not just because you're a fan of Pacquiao? The reason I am saying they should sue the three is this, They never tested Manny Pacquiao with any trace of illegal substance since he started fighting in Nevada which is about how many fights? 5 or six fight and yet the triumvivate suddenly came up with the steroids allegations. This can mean that A) their systems of testing is fallible and unreliable B) their system can be corrupt and could be corrupted.or had been corrupted.

How clean do you want it? how clean can it get?....Olympics have the same system and yet there are still athletes getting caught will illegal substance after the fact.what can it do to boxing right now?.All we hear is complain but not one shred of solution. Well, it's a constant battle for these agencies to develop tests to catch new drugs, or uncover new masking agents etc. I want it as clean as it can get, which means using the latest tests and procedures to catch as much as they can. Stuff will still get through. That will always be the case, because cheating has been around as long as sport. Right now the world anti-doping agency is the so called gold standard for testing, so that is what boxing and all other sports should be following.

I don't think anyone doesn't want to make sure the sport stays clean, it's just funny how none of you gave a shit until it was convenient to make a boxer you dislike look bad. But keep feigning how you're doing it for the love of the sport. You guys surely are some white knights. Yes, I've watched all of Manny's fights in the last four or five years because I hate him. Good call. I actually watched most of Mayweather's fights hoping someone would KO him and shut his mouth. I do think he's the best boxer around though, but I really don't like him and want to see him lose. Sorry, but this is something that I've wanted for a long time. I'm tired of seeing guys fail drug tests post fight and having results changed to NC. Toney never should have been in the ring with Ruiz, for instance. The state just wants to make sure they collect their money before the test fails.

If you actully read boxing news, you would know that the representitive to the NSAC said GBP and Ellerbe have been very respectful throughout the entire process and he did not find their requests disrespectful. But if you wanna be an idiot, just go ahead. Exactly. You would think people would do some research before posting stuff that can be argued away. This will create a precedent and could cause a lot of problem in the beginning. If they are going to adapt then they should have been years ago.Not just because Of Mayweathers whim. I agree it is a slap in the Nevada State athletic governing body.And they should be the one's suing Mayweathers,Schaeffer,GBP. Here's why research before posting is very important sometimes... If GBP and company is "insulting" the NSAC, then why did Arum suggest they try using the testing agencies that the NFL, MLB, and NBA use for their athletes? It was reported here on BS. You can look it up. Isn't that insulting to the NSAC too or not just because you're a fan of Pacquiao?

So, as a sports fan, you're telling me that you don't want to make sure the sport is clean? You're saying that because it wasn't done before, then it shouldn't be done now? You're basically saying "better never than late." Who cares if it happens because Mayweather wants it? I think he's an asshole. Doesn't make a difference to me. Boxing is not a clean sport, and I've been hoping they'd do something like this a long time ago. And do you really seriously care about the Nevada athletic commission? How clean do you want it? how clean can it get?....Olympics have the same system and yet there are still athletes getting caught will illegal substance after the fact.what can it do to boxing right now?.All we hear is complain but not one shred of solution.

I don't think anyone doesn't want to make sure the sport stays clean, it's just funny how none of you gave a shit until it was convenient to make a boxer you dislike look bad. But keep feigning how you're doing it for the love of the sport. You guys surely are some white knights.

This will create a precedent and could cause a lot of problem in the beginning.If they are going to adapt then they should have been years ago.Not just because Of Mayweathers whim. I agree it is a slap in the Nevada State athletic governing body.And they should be the one's suing Mayweathers,Schaeffer,GBP. So, as a sports fan, you're telling me that you don't want to make sure the sport is clean? You're saying that because it wasn't done before, then it shouldn't be done now? You're basically saying "better never than late." Who cares if it happens because Mayweather wants it? I think he's an asshole. Doesn't make a difference to me. Boxing is not a clean sport, and I've been hoping they'd do something like this a long time ago. And do you really seriously care about the Nevada athletic commission?

very true, the great nevada state athletic comission has been insulted, stone the culprits! oh shut the fuck up, what a lame ass thread. the nsac has let fighters climb in ring on steroids and loaded gloves.

There is no reason they shouldn't have gone to the USADA. They test all of the USA's olympic athletes as well as implementing the drug testing policy of the world anti-doping agency. Nevada should get on board with that program, but there is no way they'd be ready to do it for this fight. The Nevada program just isn't nearly as good as the one the USADA uses. This will create a precedent and could cause a lot of problem in the beginning.If they are going to adapt then they should have been years ago.Not just because Of Mayweathers whim. I agree it is a slap in the Nevada State athletic governing body.And they should be the one's suing Mayweathers,Schaeffer,GBP.

Really? It's not good enough to handle doing random blood and urine tests? I have a hard time believing that. That's why I'm inclined to believe that their testing really isn't as bad as posters here are trying to make it to be. No one here knows jack shit when it comes to drug testing, I'd like to hear the opinions of some non-biased experts. Someone from the Nevada commission said they could do it but they don't have the procedure in place. Getting the procedure in place would take time. The article was linked on boxingscene somewhere. Right now there is already another body that is completely independent, not a pawn of the Mayweathers, that can do the testing - the USADA. To be honest, I don't think the Nevada commission would want to do this testing. It's more expensive and all it means to them is more cancelled fights, and the possibility of losing fights to other states with more lax rules. And I don't think the blood test is actually inferior, they probably contract those tests out to a non state-run facility anyway. The only issue is that their blood tests are not random, from what I can understand. The international olympic committee created the world anti-doping agency, and that agency is considered to have the best drug testing program in the world. I see no reason why all professional athlete's should not be held to that standard.

The Nevada program just isn't nearly as good as the one the USADA uses. Really? It's not good enough to handle doing random blood and urine tests? I have a hard time believing that. That's why I'm inclined to believe that their testing really isn't as bad as posters here are trying to make it to be. No one here knows jack shit when it comes to drug testing, I'd like to hear the opinions of some non-biased experts.

There is no reason they shouldn't have gone to the USADA. They test all of the USA's olympic athletes as well as implementing the drug testing policy of the world anti-doping agency. Nevada should get on board with that program, but there is no way they'd be ready to do it for this fight. The Nevada program just isn't nearly as good as the one the USADA uses.

I can agree. If Floyd felt the testing was inadequate, he should have petitioned for the Commission to do more stringent testing for this fight. That would have been the right way to go about it, not try and get some outside company to do it.

If you actully read boxing news, you would know that the representitive to the NSAC said GBP and Ellerbe have been very respectful throughout the entire process and he did not find their requests disrespectful. But if you wanna be an idiot, just go ahead.