As of now, do you rate Mosley as an ATG?

I like Mosley, and I don't want to say he isn't. But I think the best thing to do is let his career come to a conclusion before making this call.

ATG at Lightweight, as in top 20, even top 10 , yes. ATG as in Top 25, top 30, even top 50 p4p of all time, no. But what do I know, I like Kelly Pavlik:fest30:

I think he is borderline ATG LW. But, he is not in my top 100 all time P4P. And, I only consider top 50 ATG anyways so the answer is not. But, if he beats Berto, Pac, Floyd, and P-Will. You could make an argument of him belonging in the top 50 your fucking with us right?

It shouldn't be a question, but Mosley mismanaged his career so much it is a question. Just look at what the guy did in the ring and what a talent he was and he is an ATG.

Simple question. Hell if you rate Calzaghe as an HoFer then yes! But in a perfect world no, he's a gatekeeper though. ATG material go up in weight more than Mosley was able to successfully. I think Oscar has a better resume.

Yes he is. He's been consistent during his whole career, had a great run from LW to JrMW, has a great resume and all the skills, he's willing to fight anyone.

I don't go in for these top-something-or-other lists - mainly because I find such impossible to attempt without going around in endless circles scribbling down names and then erasing them. But SSM is easily one of the best fighters I've seen in the last 25 years. As far as attributes go he pretty much has them all. He's an excellent technician who can box beautifully when he needs to. Though he can also go on the offensive with some serious pop in either hand, as was evidenced in the Margarito fight. To use a worn out phrase - he's the complete fighter. But most of all, he has the heart and mind of a champion. Even toward the twilight of his career he's prepared to go in with the best fighters and roll them over. He just wants to win it more than the other guy.

I have the top 50 as ATG's and he squeezes in just about.

Mosely is def an ATG. But he only has himself to blame why this is left to debate as far as how his career has been managed. But hindsight is clear sight yeah good point man, imo jmm and ssm are two of my favourite fighters but both of them have made decisions that they look back on and regret. ssm took on two guys who everyone else was staying away from for a reason. its just unfortunate that he found out it out the hard way. ssm has beat mayorga, vargas, prime DLH (x2), margarito and collazo that makes him a nailed on HOF but if he hadn't got the losses to VF and WW then he could sail into the top 50 imo (even with the cotto loss).

How can people say no?!? ATG is basically the top 100 of all time. So you people are saying Shane doesn't even get a 99 spot? LMAO. Look at his resume. Realize the only people he really lost too were much bigger than him: Of his 5 losses 2 were from Winky at 154 and 2 were against Forrest who was also just too big for him. And his cotto loss was a very close fight that could have gone either way. Then consider his wins over: Antonio Margarito Ricardo Mayorga Luis Collazo Oscar De La Hoya Fernando Vargas (twice) Jose Luis Cruz David Estrada Shannan Taylor Jesse James Leija Antonio Diaz Philip Holiday Golden Johnson (lol) i said no because IMO ATG is top 20 or so... :dunno:

Simple question. Yes he is.

Mosely is def an ATG. But he only has himself to blame why this is left to debate as far as how his career has been managed. But hindsight is clear sight

boxin is a subjectiv drama. count him into disputed ATGlist or just :bryce: ATG is some freaky shit baised on nuttin, there no official list of boxing All-time-greats. Sugar Shane is a This-time-great and an ALL-time-greeeat 4 me <3

I think he is borderline ATG LW. But, he is not in my top 100 all time P4P. And, I only consider top 50 ATG anyways so the answer is not. But, if he beats Berto, Pac, Floyd, and P-Will. You could make an argument of him belonging in the top 50

if boxingscene writers think calzaghe is an atg idk why mosley wouldnt be but some people are idiots

Yea. He done enuf imo. His losses to Winky n Vernon hurt him, but he makes the cut.

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Guess not? If a fighter gets caught juicing, then he should not be allowed to be a ATG imo.

Guess not?