If Manny pressures FMJ he will win.

Hardcore Pac fans like the TS will always pick Pac against anyone and not realise that an opponent of the calibre of Mayweather will pose many problems for Pac as well. The TS thinks the only way for Floyd to win is to "somehow" run and clinch. Floyd has many tools that he can utilise to frustrate Pac in this fight and negate alot of Manny's effectiveness - not just finding a way to "run and clinch". Likewise, Manny can pose problems for Mayweather but IMO Manny has mostly a punchers advantage in this fight, and if he cannot cleanly land a solid punch on PBF then he will struggle. PBF is not easy to hit like Manny's last four opponents. His skill level is beyond anyone he's ever faced before. So a simple tactic of pressure is not going to work against him. The fight is 60/40 in Mayweathers favour IMO. I wouldn't be totally suprised if Mayweather does get caught with something big early on ala Cotto, but he will recover better ala JMM and will still get the win.

A southpaw who doesn't give Floyd any room will simple mess him up. He can't shoulder roll a straight left. If Pacquiao makes him fight all night Floyd will lose, nuff said. Pacquiao has the strength of Hatton, the speed of Judah and the workate of Castillo. As long as Pacquiao offensively assaults Mayweather for 12 rounds he's got it in the bag. Non of this "controlled ring generalship" - A guy like Pacquiao isn't going to be blinking every time Mayweather feints, nor is he going to sit his ass down in the middle of the ring and Let Floyd touch his belly with his jab. I don't think Floyd can take his punches and I'd be surprised if this fight goes 12 rounds. my reason being: Judah, a quick southpaw was fuqing him up for the first 5 rounds and it get's labelled as Mayweather adapting. WRONG, it was all Judah fading. He fades in all his fights. Pacquiao doesn't fade, and he's straight up better than Judah. I mean, at least Judah stayed in Floyds comfort zone. Most Floyd fans won't even read this and will conjure up some jargon explaining to me why i'm wrong, which if I am, will apologize. I think Floyds only way to win is if he can somehow run and clinch effectively against a man as strong and as skilled Pacquiao. Well, after your prediction the fight then ain't has to happen or don't you think Pacquiao will pressure him... Judah was doing nothing... do you ever heard the saying loose the battle but win the war? You probably also thought that Hatton was close to winning against Floyd because of the first few rounds or? That was his plan... he ain't walked away from Judah if you remember... he walked to him... to try to pressure Judah's mind and that he throws more then he usually does... of course it was Mayweather... all of the sudden because Judah was so badly gassed that he couldn't throw a left anymore after 4 rounds??? Who are you kidding? And that was because Floyd allowed him too... it's the same with Castillo... the first fight was that way because Mayweather wanted it too... it has nothing to do with Castillo dude... because if he would have solved it why didn't he do it in the rematch??? Mayweather fights at the distance and the rate he wants... sometimes he wants it close... sometimes he wants it a distance... he wanted to fight Hatton at distance too but soon found at that it's way simpler to fight him in the inside... so he did... the same with Judah... if you fight Judah at distance he has a chance to time you with his fast hands as well... so you stay close if you can defend it etc. Do I have to explain you how boxing goes... and if he feels that Pacquiao is easier to be beat close he will do it and if he feels distance is the right thing he will do that... everything that happens in the ring is because he allows it too... you will see March 13 was ring generalship is... he had no problem with getting hit by Judah or Corley so it was no problem... do you think he wanted to get hit by Corrales... and what happened? And again to your southpaw argument... it means shit... I could also show you tape of how right handed fighters land on him... I could also show you tape of how a slower, with less power Marquez counterpunchs Pacquiao... what does that prove? It's your opinion and it's ok but to hang your hope on Zab Judah??? Are problems now because a fighter got hit 3 times... well then Pacquiao had mad problems against Cotto as well you know... The should roll isn't as effective against southpaws... but he knows it too... and pretty much used the standard hands up with the exception if somebody gets close to him I think Floyd can take his punches... Cotto did as well for 12 rounds... DLH did too... they hurt them but only because they got caught regulary and Pacquiao is heavy handed... I'm more intrigued if Pacquiao can take Mayweathers punches... the first few rounds Mayweather will land soft shots... but after the rounds continue Mayweather will throw harder punches... He was hurt at two occasions against Cotto pretty much from one shots... No problem... I like both fighters and if Pacquiao wins I'm happy for him too... I'm rooting for Mayweather but if Manny wins which I highly doubt even that it is competeive to tell you the truth... I have no problem to praise Pacquiao afterwards... I think he is an great... and if he beats Mayweather I don't know who can't consider him at least somewhere in the top15 all time based on his accomplishments

the bold would never happen. with the help of Roach? Maybe... Roach has faced Floyd before, with Oscar, after all. I think its all about what Roach comes up with...and how he trains his fighter leading up to the fight.

It has to be smart pressure though...if he just run in he will get tagged. He basically has to out think Floyd in there... which won't be an easy task. the bold would never happen.

A southpaw who doesn't give Floyd any room will simple mess him up. He can't shoulder roll a straight left. If Pacquiao makes him fight all night Floyd will lose, nuff said. Pacquiao has the strength of Hatton, the speed of Judah and the workate of Castillo. As long as Pacquiao offensively assaults Mayweather for 12 rounds he's got it in the bag. Non of this "controlled ring generalship" - A guy like Pacquiao isn't going to be blinking every time Mayweather feints, nor is he going to sit his ass down in the middle of the ring and Let Floyd touch his belly with his jab. I don't think Floyd can take his punches and I'd be surprised if this fight goes 12 rounds. my reason being: Judah, a quick southpaw was fuqing him up for the first 5 rounds and it get's labelled as Mayweather adapting. WRONG, it was all Judah fading. He fades in all his fights. Pacquiao doesn't fade, and he's straight up better than Judah. I mean, at least Judah stayed in Floyds comfort zone. Most Floyd fans won't even read this and will conjure up some jargon explaining to me why i'm wrong, which if I am, will apologize. I think Floyds only way to win is if he can somehow run and clinch effectively against a man as strong and as skilled Pacquiao. It has to be smart pressure though...if he just run in he will get tagged. He basically has to out think Floyd in there... which won't be an easy task.

Some of you guy's make it out like Pac is gonna steam-roll Mayweather. The truth is for anyone with an un-baised opinon that this is gonna be no small task for both fighters. Both have things the other doesnt got. And both are the best fighters in the world in the same weight-class. Anything can happen in this fight.

see, Silky-Flows reason for Mayweather winning is because he hates Pacquiao. My reason for Pacquiao beating Mayweather is because I actually can't see Pacquiao losing to a guy as inactive as Floyd and as physically weak. (Yes I said it). Regardless if Floyd wooped on Hatton from start to finish, he was getting tossed around like a ragdoll, and he was supposed to be the bigger man. If a guy like Cotto was losing his legs everytime Manny landed, i'm curious what a small framed guy like Mayweather will do when he get's hit. Add the fact that He's been hurt by 2 other southpaws in his career, that i don't consider nearly as dangerous as Pacquiao. Pacquiao hurts you and never really lets you heal, even if you don't go down, you don't make it back into the fight. Erm where the hell have i said i "hate" Pac? care to quote me? or are you just distorting my opinions to support you dumb argument? no doubt it's the latter :rolleyes: , i've put down legitimate reasons why Floyd will win, all supported with facts but all you've done is come up with a "theories" THAT'S ALREADY FAILED 40 TIMES!! :pat: , you can talk about Floyd being "hurt by two southpaws" (which is an exaggeration) but when people point out that Pac was outboxed by both Morales and JMM twice, hasn't got a good defence and struggles with the straight right (which he hasn't faced in his last 4 fights) you Pactards start moaning!! :rofl: , if you can't handle people putting the facts on the table about Pac's weaknesses then don't create frivolous threads like this.

Lol I think manny is gonna get knocked out !! He is goin against a boxing mastermind !! What marquez did to him in 2 fight's exposed him !! Good chin but Floyd is Boxing !! Trust me !! Pac is nowhere close to floyd skill wise !! He is gonna Make manny look like a Novice fighter trust me. Money May !!!!!! :boxing:

floyd will be boooooed bigtime cuz of running..

the key for mannys victory is how he acts when mayweather adjusts to whatever it is that they are doing, this is something manny himself will have to figure out since mayweather fights in real time after the first few rounds, thats something you cant plan for, plus having too many gameplans isnt the best desicion since it becomes overbearing for a fighter especially if they are eating counters and chasing someone around the ring, you can get sloppy. Roach needs ONE plan, for that ONE plan to work and have it be effective. In reality, pressure has always been the gameplan against mayweather but actually doing it always seems to be the problem, especially with someone like manny who is so hittable.

let me mark this "just in case" probably gonna be the case.. that this is an epic fail thread...i shall return march 13 Same. I've already started marking potential "epic" fail threads from both the Mayweather and Pacquiao sides. Its always funny to look back after the fight

let me mark this "just in case" probably gonna be the case.. that this is an epic fail thread...i shall return march 13 cool. As if anyone cares, there are so many fools like you on this forum in deep red. They come and go. I can't see you showing your face once Floyd receives the beating of his life.

let me mark this "just in case" probably gonna be the case.. that this is an epic fail thread...i shall return march 13

It's not hate, nor is it "hanging from Pac's nuts". I know the TS well enough by now because we've conversed on here a lot and also via PM. You don't know as much as he does. BTW, your simplistic post doesn't even need a "counter argument" from me. That's not even my point. You made a post and laughed at the thread starter. My post was to back up the TS, not attack your beloved Floyd. I can tell from the one post you wrote earlier that you merely recycle the same garbage as everyone else, though. You're not coming up with anything intelligent, although you like to think you go around "owning" people. You're wrong. Get over it. see, Silky-Flows reason for Mayweather winning is because he hates Pacquiao. My reason for Pacquiao beating Mayweather is because I actually can't see Pacquiao losing to a guy as inactive as Floyd and as physically weak. (Yes I said it). Regardless if Floyd wooped on Hatton from start to finish, he was getting tossed around like a ragdoll, and he was supposed to be the bigger man. If a guy like Cotto was losing his legs everytime Manny landed, i'm curious what a small framed guy like Mayweather will do when he get's hit. Add the fact that He's been hurt by 2 other southpaws in his career, that i don't consider nearly as dangerous as Pacquiao. Pacquiao hurts you and never really lets you heal, even if you don't go down, you don't make it back into the fight.

Well, i,ll put my two cent in... The one thing i know is that no one has truly pressured floyd for 12 rds. So manny being manny will throw 5 and 6 punch combinations ...manny will be throwing some lumber in that fight... If floyd can survive i say 6rds. Without major swelling that it can be a interesting fight...

It's not hate, nor is it "hanging from Pac's nuts". I know the TS well enough by now because we've conversed on here a lot and also via PM. You don't know as much as he does. BTW, your simplistic post doesn't even need a "counter argument" from me. That's not even my point. You made a post and laughed at the thread starter. My post was to back up the TS, not attack your beloved Floyd. I can tell from the one post you wrote earlier that you merely recycle the same garbage as everyone else, though. You're not coming up with anything intelligent, although you like to think you go around "owning" people. You're wrong. Get over it. The TS comes up with the dumbest post in a long time claiming "all Pac has to do is pressure Floyd and he wins" and you call my response "simplistic"? :rofl: i said "you hang from Pac nuts" because thats the truth, if you didn't you'd respect the facts that i put on the table and come up with a genuine REASON why i am wrong, but to just say "the TS knows more about boxing than you" is just a biased cop out from someone who just happens to agree with the TS's post despite it's flaws, and LOL so you "know" the TS knows more about the sport than me because you guys have shared cosy "PM's"? :gay: yeah that totally "proves" your point :pat: .

You shouldve called in last night man........ We had: Larryx 2501 Crillz Lefty Earl Hickey K-NAN Jrosales13 Jack D. Ripper (Rich Bloke) Mangler Jr. It was EPIC. I had to leave brah, but where is the link to the podcast Burner? shoot me a PM or something. :wave:

No. Their defense is nothing alike and it's not close between them. Mayweather's defense is based on technique.The shoulder roll and the high guard doesn't come from "reflexes and athleticism." How you can't see that is a mystery to me.And Winkys defense has never been anywhere near as good as Mayweather's. yea, I dont know what dude is talking..the lengths they go to discredit just about anything about Floyd is funny. But in the defense department he is the best HANDSDOWN. There is no argument needed.

But you hang from Pac's nuts DAILY so NO i won't "trust you" thanks :wave: . p.s. instead of hating try coming up with a counter argument if you've got a problem with what i said, because as far as i'm concerned i just stated the FACTS :rolleyes: . It's not hate, nor is it "hanging from Pac's nuts". I know the TS well enough by now because we've conversed on here a lot and also via PM. You don't know as much as he does. BTW, your simplistic post doesn't even need a "counter argument" from me. That's not even my point. You made a post and laughed at the thread starter. My post was to back up the TS, not attack your beloved Floyd. I can tell from the one post you wrote earlier that you merely recycle the same garbage as everyone else, though. You're not coming up with anything intelligent, although you like to think you go around "owning" people. You're wrong. Get over it. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Floyds defence is based on athleticism as well just like RJJ...............please rjj defense isnt that far from floyd...............Winky's defence is good as well...............BHOPS and JT's defence are better proven imo..............................its not always about the "0" in the record....................... No. Their defense is nothing alike and it's not close between them. Mayweather's defense is based on technique.The shoulder roll and the high guard doesn't come from "reflexes and athleticism." How you can't see that is a mystery to me.And Winkys defense has never been anywhere near as good as Mayweather's.