Is it crazy for me to think that B-Hop can beat Chad?

Bernard would try to cheat his way to a win. He was even headbutting Ornealas quite a bit. 'Nard is a very dirty fighter.

And yet he still beat the shit out of pavlik and tarver between those fights? So that doesn't make sense - he has skills for some fights but not others? Those fights were more about style match ups than anything else, not that his skills were no longer there. Against Calzaghe and Winky he clinched to frustrate his opponent, that IS his gameplan against certain types of fighters, not because he doesn't have skills. A 38 year old Roberto Duran looked like he was in his prime when he beat Iran Barkely. A 40+ year old Larry Holmes looked young when he beat Ray Mercer and he didn't look too shabby against Holyfield. Great boxers who are past their prime will have their moments, but it's only a matter of time until Hopkins can no longer pull the trigger.

His skills have deteriorated, he looked like crap against Howard Eastman, both Taylor fights, Winky Wright, and Calzaghe. His stamina and reflexes have suffered but he's still Bernard... Taylor and Calzaghe were bad style matchups... Bernard struggles with quick handed fighters who have high outputs...in his prime he could overcome them...now its a close fight...

His skills have deteriorated, he looked like crap against Howard Eastman, both Taylor fights, Winky Wright, and Calzaghe. so you're cool with Chad fighting somebody who's on the slide? :ugh:

No...if he can neutralize Chad's offense well he could give Chad a lotta problems... It'd be a difficult fight for Bernard tho...

people have been saying that for 10 years now about hopkins and it hasn't occurred yet, so using that logic is based entirely on "what if hopkins gets old on the day of the fight." His skills have deteriorated, he looked like crap against Howard Eastman, both Taylor fights, Winky Wright, and Calzaghe.

it sounds to me you're overrating Dawson! Sure, one could say hopkins would lose to dawson at this point because of age, but for you to say Dawson would beat the shit out of him is crazy talk - you underestimate hopkins skills, even at this point, and overrate dawsons own abilities. Hopkins doesn't get the shit beat out of him and Dawson rarely beats the shit out of anyone. It can happen and there is always a first time for everything, especially considering Hopkins deteriorated boxing skills.

I'm going to have to disagree. The fight against Ornelas was no indication. He hadn't fought in a year, not to mention he probably didn't go too hard in the gym for a guy he knew he'd beat. Tarver is 40 years old, and Chad had didn't dominate him in the 2nd fight. And Tarver hasn't had a good win since Glen Johnson... I've heard the age reason before...(Tarver, Pavlik) But you forget to mention that Dawson looked like a seasoned veteran who's skills have polished since beating Glen Johson for the second time, Dawson is in his prime right now. Hopkins has looked like garbage in many of fights since his two losses against Taylor, what does Hopkins do that will threaten Dawson? Absolutely nothing. This fight might happen though depending if Pascal needs to heal his injuries.

Yes your just a delusional Hopkins fanboy. Dawson would beat the shit out of Hopkins at this stage of his career. Your overrating him, he's not as good as you think. It took him 5 rounds to FIGURE OUT a C level level middleweight. Dawson would rip Hopkins would 5-6 combinations so fast, Hopkins wouldn't be able to see what's coming. Hopkins can't get physical with Dawson anymore BECAUSE HE'S TOO OLD. This fight isn't happening because Dawson and Hopkins are hard to negotiate with, and not to mention the fans think Dawson is fighting 40 years old too much. Dawson is either fighting Pascal or Cloud next, someone close to his age. I'm going to have to disagree. The fight against Ornelas was no indication. He hadn't fought in a year, not to mention he probably didn't go too hard in the gym for a guy he knew he'd beat. Tarver is 40 years old, and Chad had didn't dominate him in the 2nd fight. And Tarver hasn't had a good win since Glen Johnson... I've heard the age reason before...(Tarver, Pavlik)

Now, let me start off by saying that I know B-Hop probably won't fight Chad. But, I'm not in such a rush to sign him off as getting a one sided beating. I've heard a lot of people say that it's going to be like Taylor-Hopkins all over again. But, Taylor and Dawson are two diff. fighters imo. In the second Tarver fight, Antonio was able to make it unnecessarily close by getting physical with Dawson. As we all know, Hopkins can make Charlize Theron look ugly...lol...so I could see him pulling this fight out in an ugly, disgusting, horrible, mockery of a boxing match that would leave the Marquees of Queensbury turning in his grave...lol Yes your just a delusional Hopkins fanboy. Dawson would beat the shit out of Hopkins at this stage of his career. Your overrating him, he's not as good as you think. It took him 5 rounds to FIGURE OUT a C level level middleweight. Dawson would rip Hopkins would 5-6 combinations so fast, Hopkins wouldn't be able to see what's coming. Hopkins can't get physical with Dawson anymore BECAUSE HE'S TOO OLD. This fight isn't happening because Dawson and Hopkins are hard to negotiate with, and not to mention the fans think Dawson is fighting 40 years old too much. Dawson is either fighting Pascal or Cloud next, someone close to his age.

it would be an interesting fight, hops is slowing down, he's easier to hit now. bad chad could hit Hops clean now, if B-hop was younger he couldn't. ornelas isn't on dawson's level and he caught old hops with a few good shots

No. I doubt him winnin that fight or even takin it. It's too late. Gotta get old sumtime. But never say Bhop has no chance.