http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/magazine/11/18/pacquiao-cotto/#ixzz0XH6vRbPw
Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission, says there is no evidence Pacquiao is using steroids. Nevada rules, which have been in place since 2002, require fighters to submit urine samples before every fight. Those samples are tested for 40 kinds of steroids, diuretics and masking agents. Pacquiao, who has fought in Las Vegas 10 times since '02, has never tested positive.
Fighters before 2002 werent caught, or tested. Some of you said Manny is on roids since Mosley and Evander werent caught, but the rules werent in place when they used it.
Other than these tests, we'll just trust the accuser's good heart and knowledge that they and telling the truth. Afterall, Sr is an expert who may have passed 10 grade science (source needed).
That's like reading about sex and actually doing it.
No, not quite.
But there is more to it that I know that I will not discuss on the boards.
And yes, I do know Doctors that I can discuss this with...many in my family. And there is more to it than that....but won't discuss it on boards.
And NO, I'm not on that level up at the top. Not in the "know" on that level. But there is information you can get.
Don't play dumb.
Ive learned some people will never be satisfied
"he didnt pee enough in that cup!"
"We need to test during his workout, especially during his last set of bench, and right after the bar hits his chest. Thats the lone true result, as your muscle fibers contract and is at peak anabloic state. If we cant get that test, then all else is worthless. Until then, he's on roids".
I agree, they should get tested DURING training not after or right before a fight. That's dumb. I don't believe however it's HGH releasers and all that.
After looking at everything I think it was Pacquiao just weight draining himself and proper training. Remember, Pacquiao rehydrated tremendously after weigh-in between 15-16lbs. something akin to Cotto before moving up to WW. Pacquiao seemed to be a JWW masking himself as SFW/LW.
And of course proper training. Pacquiao was conditioned by Justin Fortune for nearly 7/8 years--a guy with no background in sports medicine. Pacquiao should've got a certified conditioning coach (Alex Ariza) one with an actual degree unlike Justine Fortune
Said that as well. Pac finally has someone to actually get him to his peak unlike before.
Are you a doctor?
There is enough information written and discussed on the topic from well known Doctors and Lab specialist with regards to the topic. You don't have to be a Doctor to not know anything on the topic. The info is out there.
How long before a fight are samples tested? That already comes off disappointing to me since there is no mention of frequency of exams or tests at junctures. Nothing on PE supplements either (HGH releasers). If you're only tested at one or two set points around fight night, all you have to do is properly cycle whatever products being taken. However, this doesn't account for certain HGH related methods that are currently still deemed undetectable.
I doubt Pacquiao is on anything illegal, but I suspect some things are being used giving him a significant performance boost based on the words of his conditioning coach after he slammed Mayweather Sr. I'd like to know exactly what supplements these are and let it be ruled out or not that they are HGH releasers.
I agree, they should get tested DURING training not after or right before a fight. That's dumb. I don't believe however it's HGH releasers and all that.
After looking at everything I think it was Pacquiao just weight draining himself and proper training. Remember, Pacquiao rehydrated tremendously after weigh-in between 15-16lbs. something akin to Cotto before moving up to WW. Pacquiao seemed to be a JWW masking himself as SFW/LW.
And of course proper training. Pacquiao was conditioned by Justin Fortune for nearly 7/8 years--a guy with no background in sports medicine. Pacquiao should've got a certified conditioning coach (Alex Ariza) one with an actual degree unlike Justine Fortune
How long before a fight are samples tested? That already comes off disappointing to me since there is no mention of frequency of exams or tests at junctures. Nothing on PE supplements either (HGH releasers). If you're only tested at one or two set points around fight night, all you have to do is properly cycle whatever products being taken. However, this doesn't account for certain HGH related methods that are currently still deemed undetectable.
I doubt Pacquiao is on anything illegal, but I suspect some things are being used giving him a significant performance boost based on the words of his conditioning coach after he slammed Mayweather Sr. I'd like to know exactly what supplements these are and let it be ruled out or not that they are HGH releasers.
youre asking me? If you really wanted to know the truth, consult the NAC. Let them know of your credentials as well. We need to really get to the bottom of this. Floyd sr's respect, and credibility is at stake. ASAP
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/magazine/11/18/pacquiao-cotto/#ixzz0XH6vRbPw
Fighters before 2002 werent caught, or tested. Some of you said Manny is on roids since Mosley and Evander werent caught, but the rules werent in place when they used it.
Other than these tests, we'll just trust the accuser's good heart and knowledge that they and telling the truth. Afterall, Sr is an expert who may have passed 10 grade science (source needed).
How long before a fight are samples tested? That already comes off disappointing to me since there is no mention of frequency of exams or tests at junctures. Nothing on PE supplements either (HGH releasers). If you're only tested at one or two set points around fight night, all you have to do is properly cycle whatever products being taken. However, this doesn't account for certain HGH related methods that are currently still deemed undetectable.
I doubt Pacquiao is on anything illegal, but I suspect some things are being used giving him a significant performance boost based on the words of his conditioning coach after he slammed Mayweather Sr. I'd like to know exactly what supplements these are and let it be ruled out or not that they are HGH releasers.
OK, maybe soon we can knock this on the head and get on with boxing talk.
Seems the mods are smacking fools upside the head with the ban hammer already, too.
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