Does Marquez have a better resume and legacy than Morales and Barrera?

your a clear hater. JMM didnt just beat peden and medina. and erik morales vs genaro hernandez was a clear robbery! ok, still weird to me how those 2 wins for each make a fighter an ATG. hamed was a hype job and didnt have the resume to be great, and when morales beat pac, pac wasnt even a HOF'er. because besides those 2, the rest of their resumes arent great I think you guys are confusing Genaro Hernandez with Carlos Hernandez. And Hernandez was clearly whipped by Morales. The only controversial fight that Morales had in his career was againt Espadas. And he rematched him and KOd him.

your a clear hater. JMM didnt just beat peden and medina. Wow he put a beating on Medina.... like 9 people did before him and 3 more after him... as for Peden.. the dude got shutout by MAB's age ravaged corpse. and his claim to fame is being the lucky guy that Nate Campbell stood in front of and asked him to crack him on the chin.

how old are you when you became a big fan of jmm, zarco?

dude, what JMM win can you say that trumps over EM & MAB? Morales beat Pac, MAB, Genaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Zaragoza etc Barrera beat Hamed (some say he unifies the featherweight division), Morales (2x, both prime) while JMM beats the Pedens & the Medinas of the world while losing to Chris John & Norwood your a clear hater. JMM didnt just beat peden and medina. and erik morales vs genaro hernandez was a clear robbery! That Graph is very easy to understand if you didnt have your opinion already fixed for this matter. Barrera Hamed was the overwhelming favorite ang got schooled Erik Morales is P4P prime fighter Morales UD'd 27 Year Pacquiao Beat Prime Barrera Barrera and Cassamayor are the 2 Best Fighters in JMM's Resume and they'are 33 and 37 at the time. I know this wont change your opinion but this is a poll based thread. Look at the results Maybe you need to rethink your opinion ok, still weird to me how those 2 wins for each make a fighter an ATG. hamed was a hype job and didnt have the resume to be great, and when morales beat pac, pac wasnt even a HOF'er. because besides those 2, the rest of their resumes arent great

well what ever dude. i guess ill just wait from now on and see what Marquez does in the rest of his career. im going to keep having JMM over both of them and other people will have their opinions. I am more impressed with some of the things I have seen JMM do in the ring than Barrera or Morales. But based on the chart that you posted, them beating them selves plus a Pacquiao(JMM gave Morales the blue print) and Hamed win makes them so much greater than JMM? because below those 2 wins, the rest of the names are nothing great. JMM already has a win over Barrera just like Morales, so what other name should he beat to become equally as great as Morales or Barrera? Because below the first two names, Marquez already has an equal resume for your 1 and 2 list. dude, what JMM win can you say that trumps over EM & MAB? Morales beat Pac, MAB, Genaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Zaragoza etc Barrera beat Hamed (some say he unifies the featherweight division), Morales (2x, both prime) while JMM beats the Pedens & the Medinas of the world while losing to Chris John & Norwood

well what ever dude. i guess ill just wait from now on and see what Marquez does in the rest of his career. im going to keep having JMM over both of them and other people will have their opinions. I am more impressed with some of the things I have seen JMM do in the ring than Barrera or Morales. But based on the chart that you posted, them beating them selves plus a Pacquiao(JMM gave Morales the blue print) and Hamed win makes them so much greater than JMM? because below those 2 wins, the rest of the names are nothing great. JMM already has a win over Barrera just like Morales, so what other name should he beat to become equally as great as Morales or Barrera? Because below the first two names, Marquez already has an equal resume for your 1 and 2 list. That Graph is very easy to understand if you didnt have your opinion already fixed for this matter. Barrera Hamed was the overwhelming favorite ang got schooled Erik Morales is P4P prime fighter Morales UD'd 27 Year Pacquiao Beat Prime Barrera Barrera and Cassamayor are the 2 Best Fighters in JMM's Resume and they'are 33 and 37 at the time. I know this wont change your opinion but this is a poll based thread. Look at the results Maybe you need to rethink your opinion

my question is like this...wtf made morales and barrera ATG's? wins against themselves? so are Rafa and Izzy ATG's? was it a pac win for morales? because as far as I am concerned morales and barrera made pac an ATG. was it a win over hamed? a hamed win makes you an ATG because of his famous entrances and flashiness? cause he sure doesent have the resume. the rest of their resume is nothing great.

Take a look at this list. Morales-------Barrera------Marquez Pacquiao(27)----Hamed-------Barrera(33) Barrera ---------Morales--------Cassamayor(37) Jones ----------McKinney-------J.Diaz Chavez --------A. Sanchez----Medina Zaragoza ------Tapia ----------Gainer Chi --------------Salud ---------Juarez Hernandez----- Ayala ----------PedenTake a look at this list. Morales-------Barrera------Marquez Pacquiao(27)----Hamed-------Barrera(33) Barrera ---------Morales--------Cassamayor(37) Jones ----------McKinney-------J.Diaz Chavez --------A. Sanchez----Medina Zaragoza ------Tapia ----------Gainer Chi --------------Salud ---------Juarez Hernandez----- Ayala ----------Peden McCullough----- Juarez ---------Salido Ayala -----------Peden ----------Polo ----------1----------2----------3 Is that NOT Clear enough??? McCullough----- Juarez ---------Salido Ayala -----------Peden ----------Polo ----------1----------2----------3 Is that NOT Clear enough??? well what ever dude. i guess ill just wait from now on and see what Marquez does in the rest of his career. im going to keep having JMM over both of them and other people will have their opinions. I am more impressed with some of the things I have seen JMM do in the ring than Barrera or Morales. But based on the chart that you posted, them beating them selves plus a Pacquiao(JMM gave Morales the blue print) and Hamed win makes them so much greater than JMM? because below those 2 wins, the rest of the names are nothing great. JMM already has a win over Barrera just like Morales, so what other name should he beat to become equally as great as Morales or Barrera? Because below the first two names, Marquez already has an equal resume for your 1 and 2 list.

What are you talking about? Pac would destroy Leonard in round 1. :D make it happen bob! may 2010. pac by tko. :dance:

erik has the best among them IMO... tackled death row level foes in succession & often winning... he didnt have the gainers, the fanas, the victor polos during his reign... oh i miss watching him... And his baptism of fire was against an old master Zaragoza. Yes, the young lion performed very well here. Green K for the post.

Hell no. Even if he could still compete today, I do not know who will he have to beat to be considered as better of the two. No disrespect to JMM, he is really known for the 2 non-wins against pac. He could have done more though had he been managed better.

No he don't.

no way. jmm only looked good cause he did good against pac not to mention he didnt beat pac who's style is tailor made for him. i think his win against diaz is his biggest career win

I think he would beat Bradley because Desert Storm is kind of overhyped by a lot of people. Bradley is still a good fighter though. i'm just scared he's too strong for jmm. that boy is built like a tank.

losing to bradley ain't helping his resume. I think he would beat Bradley because Desert Storm is kind of overhyped by a lot of people. Bradley is still a good fighter though.

zarco is being a little bitch right now. people give their opinion , he ignores it and pretends no one has given an explanation. it's his only way of trying to prove that marquez is better because he knows it's not true. in his dreams. he reminds me of the pactards in pacland that thinks pacquiao would beat sugar ray leonard. jmm dont even like mexican-americans

zarco is the queen of spam zarco is being a little bitch right now. people give their opinion , he ignores it and pretends no one has given an explanation. it's his only way of trying to prove that marquez is better because he knows it's not true. in his dreams. he reminds me of the pactards in pacland that thinks pacquiao would beat sugar ray leonard.

zarco is the queen of spam

see this thread has shown me that no body really has a clear answer. its just always "morales/barrera>marquez, its just the way it is". your bolded answer to my question is stupid. thats like me saying barrera/morales>pacquiao because they were already HOF'ers before any one even knew who pacquiao was. listen. the reason i wrote the bolded is to prove a point. the fact that barrera and morales' resume was already considered HOF level BEFORE marquez even won his 1st title shows you how much better their resumes are than marquez. are you really this simple? people were ranking morales and barrera top 10 p4p 5-7 years before marquez even won a damn belt! what do you want me to do? make a stupid list of all the guys they have already fought when your ass already knows who they fought? just stfu already. 2/3 to 3/4 everyone on this damn site thinks barrera and morales were better. deal with it.

marquez already pass up Morales,,, currently he is a little step behind Barrera! If MARQUEZ fights Valero and beats him, he would be above both! Morales is tha only one out of them three to have QUIT like a COWARD! That puts him at the end. :headbang: What? 27 yr old Pacquiao Prime Barrera That 2 alone shits on JMM's Resume