Who is/are the boxer/s that manny must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that cotto must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that mosley must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that marquez must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that pbf must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
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Pacquiao fought marquez twice , and is now fighting Cotto.
Marquez fought Pacquiao twice , and fought Boat buyer and couldnt stand a chance against mayweathers style and his ring IQ
Cotto , is facing Pacquiao , and IMO he will destroy Marquez.
The question remains , when will Mayweather step up , but even as much as I cant stand the guys coky ways , and his money issues , his retarded answers and his self proclamation , he remains the guy to beat , problem is he doesnt have the balls to get in the ring with either pacquiao or Cotto to see and prove who is better, maybe this fight willl reveal something special and Mayweather decides to make it happen. and then prob retire again.
My list goes a lil something like this.
I think Mayweather has the talent to beat all of them. But since he wont step up.
Either Cotto or Mosley have to beat pac convincingly to be called the best of this era , cuz I dont agree that other than being hall of famers, (all of them at some point) I think there were better fighters all around before , so All time great , is out of the question. Marquez doesnt stand a chance , against Cotto or Mosley , no disrespect , but his division is not the ww , not even the jr ww. Maybe he can beat some good class B maybe A fighters at jr , but more than that I dont see it. But again , I could be completely wrong.
So until Mayweather steps up , to be called the best ww of this time , u must beat Pac convincingly , and stop the hype , cuz Cotto beat Mosley , and It will prob happen again. Mosley style benefits Cotto slightly , enough to get the decision he got.
I agree with this , but you left out some important points. but over all , well said
make a thread and put these questions in title:
Who is/are the boxer/s that manny must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that cotto must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that mosley must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that marquez must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that pbf must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
None of them can be the best of all-time.
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this is probably the most stupid thread ever...dude next time make your question a little bit more clearer....but i'd have to say to be considered an atg, you have tot considered the best in your era....so that means manny must beat cotto, mosley, clottey, mayweather etc
make a thread and put these questions in title:
Who is/are the boxer/s that manny must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that cotto must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that mosley must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that marquez must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that pbf must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Must go back in time and beat leonard, robinson, duran, hagler, hearns lamotta armstrong - etc, unfortunately one can't really be concidered an all time great until years later, people look at all times greats with a nostalgic bias, it really depends on how people 10-20 years from now view this era of jww-jmw
but i'd say if PBF defeats all the above, or even 1/2 the above and remains undefeated he has a great chance at being concidered an all time great, if he hasn't done too much damage to his legacy already, its possible for him to defeat these people and still have people remember the period of time that he didnt' fight the best, and talk more about the people he didn't fight than the people he fought
pac- has a good chance if he beats cotto, and and one other on the list, because of his jumps in weight
cotto - who knows, i think his legacy may always be overshadowed by marg's potential cheating, whenever his name is mentioned, that loss will be talked about and speculated about.
Mosely cheated, that will taint his atg possibilty, any time someone brings up his victories they'll be a question mark/asterisk
I think JMM has done all he can do, and will be remembered as a great fighter, but probably overshadowed by JCC
Pacquiao beating Cotto, Mayweather, getting the lineal title at 147, and picking up another belt at 154....doesnt matter if it's the weakest beltholder in the division places him somewhere between 2nd and 4th greatest of all time in my opinion.
really hard question...
Im guessing your asking who must the following beat in order to be the ATG?
In that case uh, if Pac beats PBF,cotto,mosley then ill consider him to be among the atgs top 5.If pbf beats cotto,mosley,then goes up and beats someone like angulo,pavlik,williams and comes back down to 147 and beats the 1 contender then ill place him in the top 10 ATG also. Its to late for mosely/marquez and cotto has the longest road.
Who is/are the boxer/s that manny must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that cotto must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that mosley must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that marquez must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?
Who is/are the boxer/s that pbf must beat(CONVINCINGLY) to be the best of all-time?