1. Roach would never have decided to let footage of Manny's weaknesses out for Miguel and his camp to see.
2. There were 5 weeks of sparring but we are judging Manny on 6 seconds of that sparring?
3. You can take almost any fight that wasn't very close (Unless it was a massacre) and edit it in a way to make the other fighter look good.
I mean all you have to do for example is get footage of the entire fight and just highlight the good parts of the fighter who got beaten and TA DA! Now the fighter looks like he's in the top 10 in the P4P list (even if he sucks).
4. We don't know when that footage was taken. Maybe it was on the first day of sparring?
Remember, there was this one media work out where Manny didn't sleep well and so he looked like crap for that day? That could have been footage of that day.
5. It's 24/7. Remember how it fooled us into believing that Hatton has a great shot at beating Floyd?
Well, there are probably reasons to believe the footage too. But the footage doesn't give off too much.
We should wait for the open media workout (I'M EXCITED FOR THAT) and see what both Manny and Cotto bring to the table.
Man you made a thread saying dont believe what we saw..why??because its manny??but when they come out with theses news breaks every day about manny destroying sparring partners..everyone believes it with no proof....and 4 you to just just up and call my post dumb is showing how biased you are..im not insulting manny but i saw what i saw..but according to you i should ignore it
it would be incredibly easy to make it look like Zab was killing Mayweather.
1. Roach would never have decided to let footage of Manny's weaknesses out for Miguel and his camp to see.
2. There were 5 weeks of sparring but we are judging Manny on 6 seconds of that sparring?
3. You can take almost any fight that wasn't very close (Unless it was a massacre) and edit it in a way to make the other fighter look good.
I mean all you have to do for example is get footage of the entire fight and just highlight the good parts of the fighter who got beaten and TA DA! Now the fighter looks like he's in the top 10 in the P4P list (even if he sucks).
4. We don't know when that footage was taken. Maybe it was on the first day of sparring?
Remember, there was this one media work out where Manny didn't sleep well and so he looked like crap for that day? That could have been footage of that day.
5. It's 24/7. Remember how it fooled us into believing that Hatton has a great shot at beating Floyd?
Well, there are probably reasons to believe the footage too. But the footage doesn't give off too much.
We should wait for the open media workout (I'M EXCITED FOR THAT) and see what both Manny and Cotto bring to the table.
just reading official camp excerpts proves this footage was carefully cropped.
and it looked carefully cropped.
people are dumb though
I was dumb to I thought Marquez was looking like a beast in 24/7.
If Roach thinks Pacquiao is going to kill Cotto, chances are he's right.
and Porter is a fair bit bigger than Cotto.
Wow 4 stupid posts I don't know where to begin...
Then again it is Larry X so I should have expected it.
No, I'm not saying that the footage didn't happen. All I'm saying is that it's easy to make it look like someone is doing bad in a fight by editing the footage.
If I edited the Oscar vs Floyd fight and highlighted only the parts where Floyd was being hit and roughed up while showing only 1 or 2 grazing punches for Floyd you'd think Oscar won the fight and Floyd was being beat right?
Your posts are a shit trip. Of course there are times when Manny gets bullied in the ring like there are times when Floyd gets hit right?
So if I show you 6 seconds of Floyd getting hit in fights where he actually won would you think "Floyd is a shitty defensive fighter"?
Not even you would think so...that would be stupid. So why would you think "Manny is F---ing up in sparring" because of only 6 seconds of footage that could have been picked and edited?
When did I ever say that I believed that Manny is destroying Sparring partners?
You're making up posts.
I think you're starting to believe things that you make up. If that isn't stupidity I don't know what is.
Make up a clip? No.
Edit and get 6 seconds out of like 10 rounds to make it look like Manny is vulnerable? No problem.
I would defend this dude but I'll let him do it himself.
Wow 4 stupid posts I don't know where to begin...
Then again it is Larry X so I should have expected it.
why shouldnt we believe what we saw???people believed peterson beat up floyd in sparring without seeing jack shit....we saw manny getting beat up and we're suppose to turn a blind eye because its manny right???
No, I'm not saying that the footage didn't happen. All I'm saying is that it's easy to make it look like someone is doing bad in a fight by editing the footage.
If I edited the Oscar vs Floyd fight and highlighted only the parts where Floyd was being hit and roughed up while showing only 1 or 2 grazing punches for Floyd you'd think Oscar won the fight and Floyd was being beat right?
this shit is a trip..ya'll beleive stories of him destroying sparring partners with 0 damn proof..but actual footage of him being bullied in sparring should be ignored???wtf???how does this work??
Your posts are a shit trip. Of course there are times when Manny gets bullied in the ring like there are times when Floyd gets hit right?
So if I show you 6 seconds of Floyd getting hit in fights where he actually won would you think "Floyd is a shitty defensive fighter"?
Not even you would think so...that would be stupid. So why would you think "Manny is F---ing up in sparring" because of only 6 seconds of footage that could have been picked and edited?
lmfao..so we are suppose to belive what we hear??and not what we see????if that isnt some biased bullshit i dont know what is.......
When did I ever say that I believed that Manny is destroying Sparring partners?
You're making up posts.
I think you're starting to believe things that you make up. If that isn't stupidity I don't know what is.
so hbo made up that sparring clip????lol...but we are suppose to believe everything roach says without seeing shit???
Make up a clip? No.
Edit and get 6 seconds out of like 10 rounds to make it look like Manny is vulnerable? No problem.
let that had been 6 seconds of floyd getting beat up....hell ya'll belive shit about floyd getting beat up without seeing shit..this shows the biased nature of this forum
I'll give you that...people would go ape shit about 6 seconds of Floyd off balance from a sparring partner.
but bias against Floyd isn't something I share with the masses
this shit is a trip..ya'll beleive stories of him destroying sparring partners with 0 damn proof..but actual footage of him being bullied in sparring should be ignored???wtf???how does this work??
24/7 is a propaganda show.
you see what they want you to see.
Maybe you should be wondering why they wanted you to see that particular clip?
You can't see 1/1000th of the sparring manny has done and judge, either.
Truth is...that 6 seconds is just about as credible as word of mouth from Roach, because both are incomplete pictures, leaving the details to imagination.
this shit is a trip..ya'll beleive stories of him destroying sparring partners with 0 damn proof..but actual footage of him being bullied in sparring should be ignored???wtf???how does this work??
I rather believe Roach, Ariza, and Santiago than a storyline HBO is trying to put together to make this fight more interesting and sell. Yes.
2. There were 5 weeks of sparring but we are judging Manny on 6 seconds of that sparring?
4. We don't know when that footage was taken. Maybe it was on the first day of sparring?
Remember, there was this one media work out where Manny didn't sleep well and so he looked like crap for that day? That could have been footage of that day.
5. It's 24/7. Remember how it fooled us into believing that Hatton has a great shot at beating Floyd?
Well, there are probably reasons to believe the footage too. But the footage doesn't give off too much.
We should wait for the open media workout (I'M EXCITED FOR THAT) and see what both Manny and Cotto bring to the table.
I think its funny that, if this were Floyd Mayweather we were talking about, the haters on this site would not be making justifications, but instead would use that six seconds of footage to write 300 posts criticize him and claim he is overrated.
this shit is a trip..ya'll beleive stories of him destroying sparring partners with 0 damn proof..but actual footage of him being bullied in sparring should be ignored???wtf???how does this work??
You just gotta laugh at it
this shit is a trip..ya'll beleive stories of him destroying sparring partners with 0 damn proof..but actual footage of him being bullied in sparring should be ignored???wtf???how does this work??
That shit is funny LMAO
Boxing history is littered with stories of people who regularly did badly in sparring but ended up beating the shit out of their opponent in a real fight. A few seconds of Pacquiao's early sparring (like you said, possibly the first day) is nothing to go on. Nothing. But hey, let people grasp at straws and make a soap opera out of it if they want. It's the highlight of their day.
Well put. Hbo did a great job. Judging from the reactions. Makes PAC look more vulnerable doesn't it. Buy the fight, it will be competitive because manny is distracted, undertrained, and look what his sparring partners do to him it will be a good fight. Great job hbo. Those who know, know what's up though. I'll just zip it till after the 14th.
1. Roach would never have decided to let footage of Manny's weaknesses out for Miguel and his camp to see.
2. There were 5 weeks of sparring but we are judging Manny on 6 seconds of that sparring?
3. You can take almost any fight that wasn't very close (Unless it was a massacre) and edit it in a way to make the other fighter look good.
I mean all you have to do for example is get footage of the entire fight and just highlight the good parts of the fighter who got beaten and TA DA! Now the fighter looks like he's in the top 10 in the P4P list (even if he sucks).
4. We don't know when that footage was taken. Maybe it was on the first day of sparring?
Remember, there was this one media work out where Manny didn't sleep well and so he looked like crap for that day? That could have been footage of that day.
5. It's 24/7. Remember how it fooled us into believing that Hatton has a great shot at beating Floyd?
Well, there are probably reasons to believe the footage too. But the footage doesn't give off too much.
We should wait for the open media workout (I'M EXCITED FOR THAT) and see what both Manny and Cotto bring to the table.
We should be as swayed by that footage a bit more than you guys were swayed by stories of manny destroying his sparring partners(only because we actually saw this) but neither should be looked at with great meaning of what will happen in the fight. This is practice and training.
Like Team Cotto, Team Pacquiao has the right to choose what HBO can show on 24/7 concerning the sparring.
Amen to that, bro. Team Cotto in episode 2 only allowed photos of the sparring shown. Their air tight when it comes to their training and that's for sure.
I was surprised too after watching the Pac-Cotto 24/7 Ep2 that Team Pac allowed HBO to shoot their sparring sessions with Porter. It could be a giveaway that would not matter whether they show it to team Cotto or not, my 2 cents.
why shouldnt we believe what we saw???people believed peterson beat up floyd in sparring without seeing jack shit....we saw manny getting beat up and we're suppose to turn a blind eye because its manny right???
I hate to say it but this guy has a point lol..
Sparring is nothing like a real fight though so Idc about Manny getting beat in Sparring a little. I know Manny will be 100% on fight night and probably win.
Boxing history is littered with stories of people who regularly did badly in sparring but ended up beating the shit out of their opponent in a real fight. A few seconds of Pacquiao's early sparring (like you said, possibly the first day) is nothing to go on. Nothing. But hey, let people grasp at straws and make a soap opera out of it if they want. It's the highlight of their day.
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